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זמי1  
#21 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2012 8:12:26 PM(UTC)
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I've uploaded the thread again.

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#22 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2012 9:42:36 PM(UTC)
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God bless. This important post on a relatively busy model views
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#23 Posted : Sunday, May 6, 2012 2:16:27 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for your post.
Time enter nkafr to buy food? (If not stop.) Barakrosen 41035.4699074074
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#24 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:14:10 AM(UTC)
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Hey,
It depends where.
Download the attachment (link above), write all the details there.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 2:03:37 PM(UTC)
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A crazy story and your pictures are amazing!!!
I was wondering if there is a problem to camp in the first two sections or must start at a cabin or camp site organized?
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#26 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 2:44:42 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
We slept in the two first sections almost exclusively in a tent (if I remember correctly) but one night in "Europe" (on the border between 2 sections and the historical border between Austria to Italy) and once more two nights earlier (can't remember the name, it appears in the attachment).
Every night there's no camping tent is neat (no!) or near the cabin. Vice versa-as "bar" and so not disturb so we weren't really on the path. Anyway, we set up the tent as late as possible, right at sunset, and disassembled early in the morning first thing.
In the attachment I wrote good I saw on the way (some used) to camping, I recommend to use.
The first night, so early morning skidded hunters and complained that we interfere with wildlife. I think we're much less interrupted live than hunters disturbing them, so I just ignored them.
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#27 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 3:21:04 PM(UTC)
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Cool!! Thank you for your answer!!!
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:43:44 AM(UTC)
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Next week, Monday 23rd, 7 am and begin to walk from Innsbruck up Rickson.

Will post impressions.

Thanks Omar.

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#29 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:13:05 AM(UTC)
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Notes from the Trek part 1 and part 2:

Start the trekking komplimentim-amazing, gorgeous, spectacular views, is not easy.

Not easy when dragging a bag of 25 kg. The ups and downs are just crazy.

I highly recommend not for the 15 k contains 2 liters of water. Otherwise the Trek becomes very difficult.

Regarding the first day we decided to go on foot to ptchkopl (the mountain above Innsbruck) rather than. Who thinks about it too early to start walking as soon as possible and low weight.

Distances-day going 20 km excluding the fifth day is 10 km on it to Europahutt the distance degrees by GPS.

Merged with air-you never know, there are days that beautiful but wet end, therefore take rain gear.

I recommend against rain gear but breathing, or unpleasant to go wet.

That is the way to find the right place to tent it's like winning the lottery, unpleasant sleeping in slope so think about it.

First night in the cabin, only isnier is 17 euros.

Two night-KALAAM cabin bed and breakfast 18 euros.

Tuesday-night tent. Easy slope.

Fourth night. Medium slope.

Thursday night-iorophot cabin, only bed 30 euros without a shower.

Friday night. Crazy ramp (not recommended).

Seventh night at TASA in VLAs (village) 34 euros including a..

Finally in my opinion not worth for 3 nights to carry a tent and equipment. But again that's just me.

-Very important, good rain tent three seasons is enough. There is stormy and rainy night.

Walking day Friday made a change and went along the border of the mountain chain, it is highly recommended.

In short, incredible Trek.

I added a picture opportunity.

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#30 Posted : Monday, September 3, 2012 6:33:59 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
Not sure why so inviting with the tent, I don't recall there was a ramp. Was a night or two we should bother some to right but not much else. Besides, the file write exactly where there are good places for tent use?
About the bag, 25 kg weight is too much, unless you're a big and strong.
As a rule of thumb, the case includes everything, you should not pass 1/4 body weight. 1/3 is also possible but not pleasant.

But as long as nainitam! You can't actually:-)

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#31 Posted : Friday, September 7, 2012 2:47:29 PM(UTC)
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We returned about a week ago, we Trek a few days in the middle (part two) we had to skip in rough weather and landslides won't allow us to go back. There is almost only a tent and cooking kosher reasons alone and was really cool. The Trek itself is lovely and the brochure with the revisions and recommendations of Omer Efrat-a lot of thanks for the recommendations, investment and very fluent englesh speaker thanks to you.

Who do the deliberating slammed like us (i.e. with all equipment for sleep + eat it), it's certainly possible, not encountered or something just needs to take into account that raises the weight and also because of the need to obtain all three days we cut to one in the next town and cetiideno name (or rested on Saturday) and we're back on track. It requires a little more planning ahead that needs to get on the road early enough to get how to get into town but it's not as complicated as it may sound, we'd love to give more specific advice.

In general I think the Trek is suitable for experienced travelers who don't shtbazim too hard once in a never-ending increase or rain/mist catches you without notice. It is an integral part of the trip but who also enjoys any other feeling of satisfaction to reach the top after Nice effort (sometimes lengthy)-definitely a rewarding trip and is intended only for the purple one!

About the weather – no need to take too much heat on a nice warm, Dr. or night sleeping in a hut or tent rain resistant but not compromising rain gear because the weather changes quickly and that beautiful could easily (especially around the afternoon in our case) become so wet my recommendation is as thin and light equipment because the main problem is damp and cold.

About to mrmloda-recommended! Don't have a special experience with which is a leading candidate for the most beautiful place in the whole Trek. You should go to one of the nearby towns (we were in the Northwest to mrmloda of Canazei) for hire of crampons to sports shops there walking on the glacier and minimum security equipment in pretty fair prices (we only rented crampons at 4 euros per day that had harness and leash + us).
Although it takes at the end of the day to return to the city to retrieve the equipment hire, so it's like "delays" in progress but in our eyes it was worth it, too bad.

About htniidot-to get off and get to the nearest town and back used buses while hitchhiking and as there were no buses (sometimes just a few times a day the bus passes or arriving after the last trip). Not ש"נתקענו." Although it certainly adds a dimension of uncertainty then need to take this into account when whippin's.

Last tip – when you get everywhere, first search for the tourists information. Are very nice and they can always help in English about places to buy them food, public transport and temporary accommodation if you sleep in a hotel, hostel or campsite (favorite choice, really neat and comfortable and considerably cheaper). You can ask them to do for you the phone book, it's really popular and very comfortable.

Last Tip # 2 – refer to Sunday as the day it was impossible to find anything! There are clear rules, there are places where there is a writer, and sometimes informiion but mostly not so open to build on purchase or help someone on Sunday so as not to be disappointed. In addition, public transport in many places work part-time more format but if you are planning to go out in the morning no problem because there is always a convenient transportation in the morning between 7-9 so there is no fear "hang" and burning down Sunday.

If you have any further questions we will be happy to answer email or here (jump alert): eilonyn@gmail.com

Again many thanks to Omer Efrat, nice ROI!

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orotem  
#32 Posted : Friday, September 7, 2012 9:27:31 PM(UTC)
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Hi, Ma'ayan and 73,
Thanks for the updates and tips!
Looks like nainitam. If you have pictures up. Mainly climbing mramolda.
Your comment about Sunday and instead about transport and shops although learned they do open pm as usual.
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#33 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 10:16:05 PM(UTC)
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Climbing mramolda images (don't get excited it equipment total harness ropes and crampons, simple must be experts or previous experience, equipment can be rented for a day and receive explanations in sports shops in nearby towns at pretty cheap price as I wrote above)
Pictures of the part III brought under concatenation Alta Via 2










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#34 Posted : Monday, June 3, 2013 2:00:38 AM(UTC)
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Hello to all the Forum, veterans
My husband and I are planning to go the first two parts of the trail on 12.7-19.7 (the part III did in September). From what I read the far less crowded, are nonetheless necessary to make accommodation bookings in advance or you can rely on to be vacancies and book any night time?

Thank you!
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#35 Posted : Monday, June 3, 2013 2:42:22 PM(UTC)
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I think it is not necessary, but if it comes in, so you should
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#36 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 12:27:48 PM(UTC)
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Hello orotam,
Another friend and I want to go to lachlkim 1, 2 this summer and wondering about. A few questions:
1. what degree of difficulty for whoever slammed Europe and scaling including trekking in New Zealand equipment. It also would've physical?
2. If navigation skills are required? Treated compass and maps, are there many tbrberim or that is well marked and maps are for orientation and an emergency
3. I understand that the third part you can hike and bypass prattot harness which required professional knowledge – just making sure
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:10:18 PM(UTC)
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Hi me,

1. the degree of difficulty. Technically no problem. Physical difficulty is about personal relationships but if done hiking with UPS, you don't have to worry. To make it easier to lose weight from your back. If hard, just go slow and enjoy more:-) views
We're not ready physically.
2. marked routes. However, it is always best to start with a map and compass. I personally like to use a lot. No points going into a Swan, I think the track is pretty obvious.
I recommend to download again and take the attachment (link directly above the original images) containing the story through. Where was the explanation I put patches and helpful information.
3. you understand correctly. There are some scenes you cannot bypass but not required where equipment or specialized knowledge.

In short, I think you can go without fear:-)
Enjoy and much!
Omar.
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:15:07 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

My husband and I got back from the first part of the trail a few days ago. The weather was great, the track was not too busy, and the views were lovely. First we went trekking without bed and cooking equipment and informational advantages outweighed the disadvantages.

Those who part on debating this to do, we did the third part in the Dolomites last September and the bottom line is we preferred it. We were at the end of the season so I wasn't busy, the more dramatic the people nicer and more Italian food:), but I'm sure there are people who will say otherwise. Anyway both parts and very fun.

Below the track, including some updates and suggestions:

The flight to Munich was the cheapest we found and therefore flew to Munich and from there we took a train to Innsbruck.

Organizing in Innsbruck-buying map on Maria, a huge Bookstore called as Tyrolia. In contrast to the third part of the route maps available in the cabins along the route, the first part was a little less easy to find maps. You should buy the maps covering the first two sections (according to the detail in the book).

Sunday-Innsbruck to Glugenzer hut. Walk day. Bus to the trailhead leaves the Museum Street, the line J and Modern direction in the last station. The cost of one-direction cable 12.5 euro per person. When you've done most of the Greece the cable rest today was significant and rising. On the way to the cabin pass Summit called Viggarspitze has her beautiful view on the Valley of Innsbruck and the mountain ranges. Her brief compares the effort, mainly because there is plenty of time. This is a very short day, rushing and the brave can be one long day with the next day.
The cabin itself is nice, we slept in a big room, dormitori 2 smaller rooms with 4 beds each shower didn't work when we were. Paid 12 euros, percentages (22 euros without a membership card of the Alpine Club) and 27 euros for half board. The food was great and the owners are friendly and helpful.

Monday-Peeralm-Glugenzer hut. Beautiful day that walks along the ridgeline to the descent into the Valley. Also called seven summits trail. This is part of a long trek Walking from Munich to Venice, so if you are in the area this is a good idea to book accommodation in advance. An alternative option is to continue the same day to Lizumer hut is 8 hours, rather than go to Navis Valley and sleep there. This allows maintaining altitude line cabin accommodation rather than a Roadhouse and we were all sad in retrospect not chose this option.
Accommodation in Paaralm – a Roadhouse that is accessible to all vehicles. 25 euros for accommodation + breakfast. Large dishes. But us guests were local adults being more difficult to communicate with them.

Tuesday-Olpereblick-Peeralm. According to the description in the book should go to Kalammalm but there is a shortcut that comes really close to Peeralm and out across the Valley. We tried to get in touch with Kalammalm, but it turns out that there is no phone active. You can then shorten the path by her for 26 which comes directly to Kreuzjochl Naviser (saddle). Down to the Valley to identify the split attention for you down the line and continue for walking along the ridge.
Those who choose the alternative option and Lizumer hut-the day before you can on that day continue to Tuxer hut.
Accommodation in Olpereblick Inn. It is a residence, ordinary residence cost 35 euros per person (double), we asked if there was anything cheaper and ה"קטנה ' apartment, a Studio with a bedroom, living room, shower, tv, etc. For 30 euros per person including breakfast. Free WiFi.

Wednesday-Olpereblick Inn-Geraer hut. Light and short day's walk. We reached the cabin during lunch and decided to go Alpeiner scharte bar which shows an alternative way of today, then, to see the view. The return trip took us about 3 hours. Ascent difficult bar accompanied by a walk in the snow, and coaster, at lunchtime where we didn't need special equipment to Greece the snow was soft enough, but in the morning you need crampons and walking sticks in order. The landscape is very beautiful, and broadband in this case side trip is recommended for experienced hikers who don't want to call it a day too early. Who chooses the alternative option to go that day from that person in the Tuxer hut and back on track in Geraer. It makes more sense in terms of hours.
Accommodation in hut-10 euro Geraer Club members and non-members of 20 dormitori 8 people. Gorgeous Valley views and a nice terrace to sit and drink beer and eat lunch.

Thursday-Geraer hut to hut, a relatively long day Run largely on her (after a two-hour descent to the Valley), in the last hour and a half has snow on the road but at lunch is easy to walk. Views from the cabin beautiful both ways. Met some travellers chose to take on the same day the alternative road via the Alpeiner scharte had a day's walk of 10 hours. The decrease is very steep and difficult broadband and partway there destroyed and of bypass and an increase of a few hundred metres. In short, they are not recommended, certainly not without experienced travellers.
Accommodation in Europa hut-hut is located in a charming spot right on the border between Austria and Italy. 13 euro, euro club members without members. A nice family with a child and a baby, don't speak much English.

Friday-the Sterzinger Shack Greece closed for several years, it is necessary to modify the original design of the trip. We decided to change the route and instead directly down into the Valley to go along the ridge line, to get on Wildseespitze and Wolfendorn and then off for 5 to Caminata Kematen. (Note that combines all the places have two names, one Austrian and two Italian, it can be a bit confusing). Slow walk that day took us 4.5 hours.
Accommodation in Alpine rose the most expensive place we slept in it along the way. 48 euros for half board. Just opposite the hotel there is a supermarket you can obtain almost everything.

We should explore further today, our plan was to continue day after day to Brixenr hut and then cut into the Valley and catch public transport from Vals. Unfortunately, the forecast showed that should start some serious rain during the next two days and that's why we gave up the rest of the way and decided to cut the New Orleans festival in Innsbruck one day earlier.

If you need to cut this stage public transport from Vals (Rio di pusteria) almost hourly Muhlbach, from where you can catch a train to the North or South.

Enjoy!
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#39 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:57:57 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for reporting Efrat
When you talk about a discount for Club members, also the Israeli Club members?
In fact, whether one Club card gives discounts to both spouses or only to the card holder?
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#40 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 7:01:39 PM(UTC)
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Yes, about a discount for those Club members. The card costs $ 150 a year, and gives a discount of 10 euros per night (sometimes more) huts belonging to the Alpine Club, so it pays to whoever sleeps in 3 cabins. By the way, the card also provides a discount of 10% on and functional.

It is assumed to the cardholder.
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