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#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:56:33 AM(UTC)
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Is this a reasonable weight. In addition to basic equipment (platib, small cooker, and a bit of clothes and some other small stuff) added 6 liters water (extreme mode) and a box of pasta and tomato sauce.

A total of 17 pounds. What is the standard weight should take and if anyone has a link to a site that discusses it.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 4, 2012 4:25:08 AM(UTC)
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The weight is not likely and I think there is no need for pasta and tomato sauce. What's wrong with rice or couscous
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 4, 2012 11:29:23 AM(UTC)
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Use the search function on this forum and write "weight" in the subject line.

An accepted rule of thumb for the maximum weight is up to one-third of body weight.
This is the best and should not be reached.
I think if the weight is up to a quarter of the weight of your body, you're in shape and likely quality and portfolio, you're all set.

Food-taking hot dishes and sweets (we're meant to endure hour fans)
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:07:53 PM(UTC)
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Not too extreme considering six liters of water, some food?

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:53:10 PM(UTC)
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There is no standard "weight". Depends on what you take what you like and what food weight. Those often very light weight (not olteraliit)

Carrying approximately 8.5 kg without food and water. The maximal weight of my backpack with food and water should not exceed 18 kg.

About rule of thumb for maximal weight (one-third of body weight) it is an outdated approach. If you weigh 70 kg not carry 23 kg.

Met travellers in their backpack weighs 23 kg, but they carried a lot more equipment including glass cups for coffee and reading book (book/ripping ...).

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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:36:32 AM(UTC)
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If the trip is on Israel-17 pounds is heavy.

If you really want help, post a list of all your equipment and try to help.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, January 5, 2012 11:25:59 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ronalbe1] is this a reasonable weight.


Like many things in life this weight is very relative concept and can be compared to the weight you have to lose weight to be convenient for others. In addition to the weight and type of case, everyone has different body building, fitness, endurance and muscle, and therefore I think the best way to determine that you simply make a preliminary trip of three days with the bag designed to figure out what will be a long trip.
To determine for yourself what to take and what isn't based on other lists. Determine what you need to take based on your personal experience.

The rule of the case is always the same, the fewer is better only with experience can understand what is important and what is less than and how much money you are willing to invest in equipment, weigh less clothing.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, January 5, 2012 8:49:46 PM(UTC)
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It can be inconvenient, but it's still going to be too much.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, January 5, 2012 9:32:33 PM(UTC)
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I agree rather with WARHAM all depends on how you are willing to invest in light and things you're willing to leave at home. Compared to people who often on lightweight,

And this is right thing to do, 17 pounds heavier. On the other hand in order to lose weight 14 pounds including food and water have to invest a lot of thought and some silver (light).

Not everyone wants/can spend the time/money to reach this weight. At the end of it all a matter of preference and budget. 17 kg in early fall at noon today to 14.

I don't give about two pillows-happy about 400 g. Are they essential? For me Yes.

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#10 Posted : Thursday, January 5, 2012 9:35:54 PM(UTC)
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First he noted that 17 kg including 6 liters of water.
He did not specify when and where he plans to walk, but obviously carry less.

Beyond that, I think these weight levels can download extra items, and buy expensive equipment and lightweight, but as stated without concrete equipment list, the talk in the air.

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#11 Posted : Friday, January 6, 2012 12:01:53 AM(UTC)
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The difference between X kg in tailored to you, and the same case X sitting peaks.
In my last piece, I went with about 20 kg including weight and water wasn't troublesome because I have like sewn especially for me.
Each preference.
I am willing to sacrifice a few pounds extra in order to improve quality of sleep (i.e. tent liner for sleeping bag, inflatable mattress and platib)
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#12 Posted : Friday, January 6, 2012 12:55:31 PM(UTC)
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Here is another example of someone who compromises on comfort at the expense of weight.
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#13 Posted : Friday, January 6, 2012 3:50:41 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = arthur] it can be inconvenient, but it's still going to be too much.


What is too much? Is there a standard States that if carry 20 pounds for 20 years in 2000 miles a year back and ruin your knees?
Obviously, there are no such standards and never will be.
It is clear that as easy as possible it's better but it has lower limit (and top-best example that porters carrying huge weights to lift above 3000 m forever in places like klimingro and others)
That's why I think only personal experience can teach you what to take and what not and how it will affect your trip.

[QUOTE = yankale17] here is another example of someone who compromises on comfort at the expense of weight.


Definitely a good example of a good night sleep, equally important for healing the body and muscles after an effort than nutrition and weight.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, January 7, 2012 12:10:09 AM(UTC)
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The standard is very simple. You certainly grind your back and knees with higher weight. There is no doubt and never will be. Now you decide how you want to load, and how cumulative damage you will take and how long recovery period.

I don't know what the longest continuous track and I went but there is meaning to lose weight over time.

I was with the Himalayas and porters are no harder than aaimlaya. And that's just not good for example carrying weights. Why Because most of them are barely holding up to 50 in terms of life expectancy. So ...
[QUOTE = warham] [QUOTE = arthur] it can be inconvenient, but it's still going to be too much.


What is too much? Is there a standard States that if carry 20 pounds for 20 years in 2000 miles a year back and ruin your knees?
Obviously, there are no such standards and never will be.
It is clear that as easy as possible it's better but it has lower limit (and top-best example that porters carrying huge weights to lift above 3000 m forever in places like klimingro and others)
That's why I think only personal experience can teach you what to take and what not and how it will affect your trip.

[QUOTE = yankale17] here is another example of someone who compromises on comfort at the expense of weight.


Definitely a good example of a good night sleep, equally important for healing the body and muscles after an effort than nutrition and weight.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, January 7, 2012 1:56:39 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = imtl] standard is very simple. You certainly grind your back and knees with higher weight. There is no doubt and never will be. Now you decide how you want to load, and how cumulative damage you will take and how long recovery period.

How does this contradict what I said? Don't bring a practical example here but the general statement that every traveler has developed experience less weight is better in every way.
What I said was that there is no measure for everyone and everyone has to determine for himself what's important to him.

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I don't know what the longest continuous track and I went but there is meaning to lose weight over time.

I went on a continuous route several times over two weeks that the time it took me to understand and to adapt optimally to the effort needed.

[QUOTE = imtl]
I was with the Himalayas and porters are no harder than aaimlaya. And that's just not good for example carrying weights. Why Because most of them are barely holding up to 50 in terms of life expectancy. So ...

I disagree here, quick GOOGLE picking up a few articles on the subject. Here are 2 for comparison: http://www.snopi.com/enc/values/value953.asp
Average life expectancy throughout Nepal 58 years.
AVG. life SIT toachhalt in Nepal as 60 years:
-Http://www.himalayanclub.org/journal/lowland-in-the-porters solu-khumbu,

And that just proves how our body is smart and sophisticated and if not loading in sharp and fast, you can get used to anything.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, January 7, 2012 5:46:02 AM(UTC)
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I wrote above: "here's another one who won't compromise on comfort at the expense of weight but stayed in that it's more pounds needed for Israel.

Go up to higher weights also long time it is not wise to drop below this limit. You can explore in comfort and sleep with 40 pounds.

20 kg banging your knees slowly and some other places. Don't feel it right now, even after all these years but when you reach my age will remember the mistakes you've done many years before.

You should keep the parts that get spare parts don't work like the originals.

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#17 Posted : Saturday, January 7, 2012 11:35:25 AM(UTC)
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My friend, no doubt everyone will decide for himself what is important. But about the erosion of the body there is no room for debate. And since there is no clear standard reporter that plays so I don't agree with you. The standard is clear. The body. The question is what level of erosion.

Try to follow a course of six months. You will feel the Burnout I'm talking about. Of course it also depends on your age and fitness.
Weeks used as you describe sounds plausible. Nothing to wear.

Then came the Nepali ל58 life expectancy Hooray! I like Nepali. But the distance between it and do not have a body because of what they are required to do. You should see how the women look like they're 35-40. With a broken back and crushed knees. They're just very brave men laboured day and continue to do the sachivot that life depended on it. So ...


[QUOTE = warham] [QUOTE = imtl] standard is very simple. You certainly grind your back and knees with higher weight. There is no doubt and never will be. Now you decide how you want to load, and how cumulative damage you will take and how long recovery period.

How does this contradict what I said? Don't bring a practical example here but the general statement that every traveler has developed experience less weight is better in every way.
What I said was that there is no measure for everyone and everyone has to determine for himself what's important to him.

[QUOTE = imtl]
I don't know what the longest continuous track and I went but there is meaning to lose weight over time.

I went on a continuous route several times over two weeks that the time it took me to understand and to adapt optimally to the effort needed.

[QUOTE = imtl]
I was with the Himalayas and porters are no harder than aaimlaya. And that's just not good for example carrying weights. Why Because most of them are barely holding up to 50 in terms of life expectancy. So ...

I disagree here, quick GOOGLE picking up a few articles on the subject. Here are 2 for comparison: http://www.snopi.com/enc/values/value953.asp
Average life expectancy throughout Nepal 58 years.
AVG. life SIT toachhalt in Nepal as 60 years:
-Http://www.himalayanclub.org/journal/lowland-in-the-porters solu-khumbu,

And that just proves how our body is smart and sophisticated and if not loading in sharp and fast, you can get used to anything. Imtl 40915.3595023148
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#18 Posted : Saturday, January 7, 2012 7:07:17 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yankale17]

I wrote above: "here's another one who won't compromise on comfort at the expense of weight but stayed in that it's more pounds needed for Israel.


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Don't know why I need to get to these dedicated without weights. (Snow ice climbing photography) Arthur 40915.6734375
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#19 Posted : Sunday, January 8, 2012 8:42:12 PM(UTC)
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I'm with yankele today after my walks over the years I began to identify buttons on welcome, ankles, waist. Is it a big weight on those walks? Or the effort increases decreases? Eventually all these serious factors in determining future damage, walking away is Xtreme sport and sport makes little damages accumulate. Stopped me before? Don't. But the weights hard, at the expense of comfort, of course.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, January 8, 2012 9:06:15 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = arthur] [QUOTE = yankale17] I wrote above: "here's another one who won't compromise on comfort at the expense of weight but stayed in that it's more pounds needed for Israel.


Don't know why I need to get to these dedicated without weights. (Snow ice climbing photography)
doesn't understand what I wrote. No need to get to 18 pounds without clothes to carry things like glass cups, six pairs of socks

(Also met such travelers that they do laundry once a week). For instance I carry in the Negev 6 liters water and 5. If there is an delay

Expected needs additional water (from experience).

Possible, and should reach the lower weight of the backpack.

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