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arthur  
#1 Posted : Friday, April 6, 2012 3:52:27 PM(UTC)
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Want to update myself on the subject of the sleeping bag.
Currently used synthetic sleeping bag-5/15. Weighing 1600 grams.

Looking for a sleeping bag, more or less the same, maybe a little less tmprotorot. But not extreme.

The style-planned mountain treks. With a tent, a sleeping naked.

I want to lighten the weight of a sleeping bag.

-By the way, I saw that the European (EN) device should give 4 ratings
Upper limit
Comfort
Lower Limit
Extreme
I usually only 3 stores and network ratings. Anybody have an explanation? Arthur 41006.8079282407
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#2 Posted : Friday, April 6, 2012 5:29:33 PM(UTC)
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Recently in western mountaineering ultralite tachdshti.

Designed-reverse 7 850 + weigh 820 g.

You can see it if you get the chance to be in the South (or Kibbutz Dan Saturday night:))

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#3 Posted : Saturday, April 7, 2012 2:50:07 AM(UTC)
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How that weight is considered among the down bag designed for minus seven? This or that is considered very easy?

I checked the website of Western mountaineering, their farms are visible.
How this company? Worth buying? Arthur 41005.9986226852
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#4 Posted : Saturday, April 7, 2012 3:37:24 AM(UTC)
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Considered a great company, but too expensive for my taste.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, April 7, 2012 4:01:49 AM(UTC)
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After a lot of comparisons and reviews I've read, is that this company has quality and service consciousness. The weight is very good. Although it is possible to go down another 100 grams if saving zipper completely, satisfied with zipper.

Find out about Featheredfriends hummingbird. It has excellent data!
What I decide my spoon was a relatively long lead time (4 weeks for delivery, it is noteworthy that usually is shorter than they). Verify that the manufacturer weight matches your requirements (phd, for example, raises the weight variation without zipper).



arthur  
#6 Posted : Saturday, April 7, 2012 10:18:32 PM(UTC)
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What is the price?
How do I invite


There are other suggestions from members of the venerable Forum?
I want to start to upgrade my equipment as much as possible. Arthur 41007.6978819444
arthur  
#7 Posted : Monday, April 9, 2012 2:56:42 PM(UTC)
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I passed some shops in my area.
Supply the bags with flip is very low.
There's Blue Kazoo TNF
And
Gold prices on kazoo TNF 1600-1200 and are quite heavy weight
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#8 Posted : Monday, April 9, 2012 3:13:52 PM(UTC)
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Marmot Plasma 15
Great sleeping bag weighing 870 ~ g, without compromise in zipper, fabric and fill.
I found on ebay for $ 430 with shipping, new course, but for that we need patience.
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#9 Posted : Monday, April 9, 2012 3:16:25 PM(UTC)
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Sounds interesting but minus 9 + tent in my opinion.
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#10 Posted : Monday, April 9, 2012 6:59:32 PM(UTC)
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Check the bags of CRUX are not cheap but great
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:18:59 AM(UTC)
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And very expensive.


Meanwhile, the options of Western Mountaineering and MARMOT sound.

Question-is the range of 800-900 g sleeping bag make corresponds to minus 7 degrees is considered easy or hard? Arthur 41008.9730092593
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:42:16 AM(UTC)
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800-900 grams is not heavy to upgrade but if you are willing to sleep with you might be able to handle that the best temperature for more kilometers.

When this quilt that Greece can save you money and 150 grams.
For example: http://enlightenedequipment.com/revelation.html
A friend received recently and so impressed
(Don't forget to add the weight of something)
arthur  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:27:06 PM(UTC)
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I have quite a strange statistic that measures an inch Away?
That's because Google not so found.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:57:25 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert] after much comparisons and reviews I've read, is that this company has quality and service consciousness. The weight is very good. Although it is possible to go down another 100 grams if saving zipper completely, satisfied with zipper.

Find out about Featheredfriends hummingbird. It has excellent data!
What I decide my spoon was a relatively long lead time (4 weeks for delivery, it is noteworthy that usually is shorter than they). Verify that the manufacturer weight matches your requirements (phd, for example, raises the weight variation without zipper).





Thank you, wandering about in the sites of the two companies and their bags look very quality. Best horror, but what to do.
How do you decide?
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:29:29 PM(UTC)
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What with bags of z-packs?
Zpacks
I have no idea how, but in terms of quality weights these bags are very kind. In General, this company looks very good.

What about golite? Their prices are very affordable (relatively).
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:42:44 PM(UTC)
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Loft is the thickness.
In this single layer thick quilt, the quilt I mean above the body that under the body. In the d bag thickness specified is two layers despite the layer below hardly reclusive body because your weight on it. It is important to note when comparing the LOFT it make similar quality.

Amount (DOWN FILL) also used for comparison, but remember that the bag have a quilt that has it backwards upside down beneath the body (and). Remember also that there is matter of dimensions-k higher/larger people would be more backwards.

Despite the drawbacks, the type and amount of upside-down and LOFT pretty useful comparisons make products not ranked according to UN standards.

Another point for comparison is weight and the plastic qualities of him made the bag (plastic inner and outer).
For example, you link to quilt is more expensive than downstairs just because its easier – exclusive and more wind and dampness.
Http://enlightenedequipment.com/revelationx.html
Afix 41009.6137152778
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:01:24 PM(UTC)
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What are you saying that if a sleeping bag a sample X the standard EN dorgem so the loft and backwards are not relevant?

BTW I think afix created the confusion here Fill power is a measure of how much the incoming quality bag feather rather than quantity.
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arthur  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:05:17 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ninelives99] what with bags of z-packs?
Zpacks
I have no idea how, but in terms of quality weights these bags are very kind. In General, this company looks very good.

What about golite? Their prices are very affordable (relatively).


They're real!?
7 degrees sleeping bag weighs 400 grams? Hard to believe, despite what I see on the screen!

Where's the catch? Arthur 41009.7122222222
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:09:25 PM(UTC)
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About zpacks, I too wonder ... If anyone here knows a little more it would be interesting to hear.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:43:24 PM(UTC)
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Watch it on European standard, so maybe it's better to take the data with a grain of salt.
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