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guy_ziv  
#1 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 9:05:20 PM(UTC)
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For the hot season.

I think this is a vital commodity should be in reach of every backpacker in Israel.
It is important to note thatNo reptiles or medicine specialist has seen the manual and it has incorrect information, missing or excess.

I'd love to have your opinion to improve keeping minimalism and after and if we reach consensus regarding the final version, you might want to distribute it.
In this case you should fold niilan (9 * 4.5 cm as four shmkopl) and tuck the handy pocket belt also.

Before trying to send it for approval but no snakes trap accosted her.

Edit: there is a newer version at the bottom of the page.
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#2 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 10:34:17 PM(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:36:27 AM(UTC)
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A great guide.
I think it's a good idea to specify no venomous snakes which resemble poisonous, to differentiate between them.
For instance Blackadder the rattlesnake is very similar to a snake is not venomous.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:35:59 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yankale17] Call here


Thank you. With his help, I will update the Guide and go here a new version once it is approved.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:19:34 PM(UTC)
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Another useful thing I could think of, maybe list of snake catchers by earthly?
I want under if the meeting with the Snake is at home or in the yard.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:34:46 PM(UTC)
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The most important question-how should identify a poisonous snake after when? Did you change the types of serum type!

Need to think of a heavy backpack bilist Plymouth the heat, maybe, and effort and sometimes allow a rescue trail. What to do? Failed to identify the snake that bit him, it's not in his head at that moment to run to catch or identify the snake but to stay alive. What to do? It is also possible to call if there's a signal, emergency centers for rescue helicopter.

That's another reason not to go alone and report where you are.

When I went on the deadly snake Appalachia was the RATTLE SNAKE, opinions were divided about what to do, the bitten? You can throw and run road or settlement soon, or wait alone for someone who will pass and it will run for you. A difficult dilemma. All the stories I heard about throwing and running crazy in the road or settlement (the speed depends on your distance from the course or community), rather than wait for someone maybe pass and save.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:39:33 PM(UTC)
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Israel's most dangerous snake is not Viper, as it is customary to think. Ein Gedi is burned though rare achshotav from the Viper, no serum can be addressed. Nziv 41044.6946296296
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:37:45 AM(UTC)
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Thanks guy on top.
Comments: maybe it makes sense to fix the right-to-left in reception to the South. Maybe even make 2 separate pages, one South and one to the North.
Another thing: is it reasonable for a property to be an image of the hard-like teeth prints etc.
Specify size ranges can also help identify.
And of course to write basic instructions what to do in the case when.

Edit: because there is only one poisonous North (plus one in Hermon) probably no point in offering "streamline"

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:40:29 AM(UTC)
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Noam,
About national list of snake catchers: this idea sounds great, but I guess the list would be huge and dynamic.


Ma,
The question of what to do when you're alone and * no * rescue option is a question that bothers me, and unfortunately a number of physicians and remaining questions about stretch with the hole in the wall and diklamo: "try to relax, and wait for rescue. They are simply not ready to accept that they cannot be extracted. And thinking they need such high SAT scores when they are unable to turn my head beyond what they learn in books.
I know that according to regulations it is forbidden to put a tourniquet for example, but I ask what happens if you cannot escape-so tastes in.
I think it makes no sense to report because the poison is spreading too fast to ח"ע venom that has been spread throughout the body, so there is nothing to do but sit and wait or Lance or a winged creature. But I have no hesitation and happy to strengthen or taxing the conclusion.

The following is a quote from the website of weeding Catcher:
In Israel there is a serum for each types of bites and stings, but it's best to know the type of snake, because you can know what dose of venom, and so what dose of serum to be injected into the person killed.
However there is a particular type of serum () unknown if it is the one used in the country or not, but after receiving it, we can't have it again at any stage in life.


Afix,
Interesting idea-print. But I think things when currency can have many forms? Maybe it depends on the angle from, guess, wear around the bite place etc.
Specifies a maximum size can be effective, as well as instructions.

Thank you.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:51:57 PM(UTC)
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Once that Phragmites bilist after contact with snake.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:43:37 PM(UTC)
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Unclear to me what the purpose of this guide and how it is supposed to help the traveler.

1. don't appear at all manner of handling the snake bite, I think the issue of treatment must occur.

2. no need to identify the snake, it wastes valuable time, diverts the practitioner its main interest and even dangerous as snake may bite more times!

3. to my knowledge exist in the land of two types of serum against snake bites. Against the Viper venom and Echis. But also there's only one, it doesn't matter. Let the serum according to the local siminim and rules rather than rely on any recognition, although amochsh may give a false picture of the snake because of mental and physical condition.

4. in any case in any situation to put a tourniquet- the snake flows through the lymphatic (immune system) and the vascular system (not the wrists and certainly not in arteries). Placing a tourniquet may worsen the image and poisoning can cause extensive damage.

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:44:11 PM(UTC)
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Read an name for snake bite as a rattlesnake bite.
Me personally annoying saying. Can be poisonous snake mode, similar to a rattlesnake or a clearly is not venomous – if his looks completely different from snake's appearance.
The first two options are problematic, but the guide can give an answer to the third option, I think if you think about it, she gives something.

How Antivenom is definitely an important topic that leaf and afix already treated. The next version is to appear.
So here's another use for writing.

Thanks for the clarification about the blocked arteries.
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#13 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 10:57:43 PM(UTC)
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The Guide has undergone several renovations thanks to Forum members and Guy haimovich-capturing snakes up the alink:
Changing format, improved image resolution and size, adding care instructions in case of when.

Includes two versions: one for viewing, and one is in the lower part, which is intended to print and fold in the middle.
Note the print settings and make sure the image size will not change.
If you insert the image to rose for example she shrinks a bit and need to reset it back to its original size.

The reason of this is because what shiibuti your photos to their resolution rose got hurt and couldn't figure out why.

Watch version:


Printable version:
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#14 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 11:40:01 PM(UTC)
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Beautiful!
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:25:56 AM(UTC)
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Excellent. Thank you!
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