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moransh  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:48:28 PM(UTC)
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Hello
I'm planning a trip quite long (around one year) Africa, and New Zealand. To do this I decided to make a new bag.
The requirements are:
Temperature-Mont for men (6)
Weight-1 kg

Options:
600 mountain as helium
Ajungilak sphere 3 season
Marmot helium
North face blue kazoo (-)

Questions:).
1) logical sounding requirements?
2 is there a miles) to consider?
3) is there a clear advantage for the 4th I understand?

Thank you!
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זמי1  
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:51:05 PM(UTC)
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Planning to sleep? Not in a tent? Long walks on foot?
moransh  
#3 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 6:57:28 PM(UTC)
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Plan to sleep in a tent.
Treks of several days, weeks, not more.
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#4 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 7:47:54 PM(UTC)
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Blue kazoo great weighs 1,350

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#5 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 8:30:37 PM(UTC)
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Great blue filled Twizzlers.
Great iongelk
And spent buying CRUX (despite the price).
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#6 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 8:45:29 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = TRAVELERS] blue great filled Twizzlers.
Great iongelk
And spent buying CRUX (despite the price).


The CRUX of kilos heavier plus where can I buy them? I haven't seen them online even.
Look also for Marmot Plasma 30, excellent shcsh lowest weight not obtained by and various concessions.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:34:52 PM(UTC)
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Don't like Marmot
Crux has with Myrtle.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:28:21 PM(UTC)
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Sort:
What's wrong with a marmot? I ask because my wife and I have a couple of miles at some of their's disappointed me but after I learned to sleep after a hot meal worked fine.
shaharellert  
#9 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:03:12 PM(UTC)
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-Consider the following models:
Feathered friends at hummingbird
Western mountaineering ultralite

The first weighs around 770 g (I don't remember whether the weight zipper full), 420 Gr. Minus 7 (lower temp).

(Ultralite) weigh 820 g full zipper, minus 7 little more comf ' temp fill-450 grams.


In terms of size and price are pretty much identical. The advantage in FF is that you can choose a color/fabric type for different needs.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:58:50 AM(UTC)
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I didn't say I don't like RA, it still doesn't make the product free.
I buy my own equipment I usually look a little less popular and companies.
I don't have a weight problem that I don't travel UL
And price, but painful problem saving to buy what I believe in.

There are (also) leading to societies considered that folk don't end products from disgracing any brand and the price a little more sane.

And finally (and perhaps most importantly for me) don't buy ש"למטייל products imports/House label.
I think they are suffering a lack of professionalism and lack of credibility towards customers.
arthur  
#11 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:07:51 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert]-consider the following models:
Feathered friends at hummingbird
Western mountaineering ultralite

The first weighs around 770 g (I don't remember whether the weight zipper full), 420 Gr. Minus 7 (lower temp).

(Ultralite) weigh 820 g full zipper, minus 7 little more comf ' temp fill-450 grams.


In terms of size and price are pretty much identical. The advantage in FF is that you can choose a color/fabric type for different needs.


What do you mean, one joining the tables in Excel? Arthur41048.9646412037
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#12 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:05:01 AM(UTC)
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I hope not ... I personally try to understand, to know, but to draw the line and not go overboard. On you're talking about, I don't think you can go wrong.

Already chosen
arthur  
#13 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:29:02 PM(UTC)
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Diggy. when it comes to equipment.
Other things I've been buying a lot more. I wonder why.

I'm just glad that opens the thread is exposed to more quality options than the blue kazoo, not that there's anything wrong with bags of pace but they are heavy.

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#14 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 2:05:03 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = arthur] diggy. when it comes to equipment.
Other things I've been buying a lot more. I wonder why.


+

Feel so
moransh  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:14:14 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
Thanks for the help!
I guess I go on iongelk or WM.
Depending on what I find most reasonable price.

Thank you!
shaharellert  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:02:35 AM(UTC)
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Are you aware of the fact that they were not at the same temperature? rank
moransh  
#17 Posted : Friday, May 25, 2012 2:26:46 PM(UTC)
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The ajungilak is comfort for men 6-EN standard
The WM 7-site realized he wasn't tested by a device

There is a problem with their rankings or the seventh it extreme?
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#18 Posted : Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16:41 PM(UTC)
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An interesting issue. According to customer service spokesman of backcountry along with ranking degree of comfort (women) of the en.
arthur  
#19 Posted : Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:59:37 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = moransh] the ajungilak is comfort for men 6-EN standard
The WM 7-site realized he wasn't tested by a device

There is a problem with their rankings or the seventh it extreme?


You're right. This whole thing bothered me too. But according to the comments of many users in the forums of the international ranking of WM is accurate and slightly conservative.
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