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ylivny  
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:32:35 PM(UTC)
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Hello to everyone

I want to buy a new Backpack and I'm torn about the type of backpack that fits my demands.

File usage profile:

  • Two-days tours in Israel (especially in the South without tent)

  • Short treks abroad (weeks appreciate mainly-but possibly cabins to tent and plans require km)


Discrimination:
Today I travel with a backpack (75 + 15) and Vaude's.
I want to move into a small casing easier and a little reading here in the Forum I find it hard to choose which type.

On one hand I'd like UL backpack (with a back pack).
Chalet trips abroad, I have no doubt he will do.
If you go to a tent-based abroad clearly have to buy tent easy and you may have to upgrade my fleece something small and easier (I have to make pretty easy compressed kg well).

The problem is with the tour or two.
On these trips I carry 6-8 liters of water in addition to cookware, fleece and a sack.
As stated, I'm ready to upgrade the polar fleece and about cooking system so that they are smaller and lighter but still haven't found how to condense the water.
I'm not sure if UL enough suitable for backpack weights like this or should I give up UL and the next level (light such as Osprey backpacks or Gregory).

I'd love to read your mind. The Catalyst ULA ULA AirX or can match you needs?
I'd love to have references to other shells that can accommodate you.

Also plisim and recommendations (I feel cold) will be accepted and welcomed.

Thanks in advance,
Jonathan

* Although my question doesn't fit in 100% of the Forum "and Israel length but I am impressed that there are serious gang has extensive knowledge and would love to use your experience better than that.
In addition, it seems to me that many Israeli travelers who ponder the question like this thread might be of help. Ylivny 41046.439837963
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זמי1  
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:45:39 PM(UTC)
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With the water problem with 8 litres of water is limited until noon time you drink 2 liters, don't think you can be a problem, the shell looks pretty good. They offer don't carry more than 40 pounds that 20 kg. Search in TOP DESTINATIONS REVIEWS review
Eli TheHiker  
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:54:30 PM(UTC)
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Hello

I had a similar call about six months ago and came to the conclusion that we have to keep 3 good cases depending on the weight it has to carry all the trip varies depending on the type of track, special equipment etc that can change from one end to the other. For example, even in a day trip in the desert during the hot season could make the case to 12-13 pounds when it's 11 liter water + food.

Therefore, selecting the files need to be this (experience and extensive reading on the topic):
1) trips that require up to 7-8 pounds total weight.
Allow file system-free weight low and back.
All sizes and then take depending on equipment and the volume requirements
And the company.
Two trips) and require a full 13 k
Here I would recommend to go for files with MS and
According to your retention. Soft bags are with
A thinner fabric and of course less resistant. Handbags with thick fabric consider
And approaching-many cases depend on the cost. I
Going for bags between 40-50 liters.
3) trips that require a weight between 13 to 20 k of course.
With a back pack and bags of 60-70 litres are indeed.
It depends on what equipment you have.

* Although in some smaller cases 40-50 record maximal weights up to 40 pounds but not have enough nor comfortable to carry. Should always take about 20% of the maximum weight to be comfortable going with him.
* Of course, this is a standard tour, or climbing expeditions to require more bags are suitable for occupation.
HarmonicWave  
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:23:13 PM(UTC)
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Hi Jonathan,

The question is very suitable for the Forum, after all, the percentage of dreamers on a long trip do him percentage big and everyone travelling trips.

I highly recommend ULA. I have the OHM, and settled with him in (~ 7-8 liters of water, ~ 13 kg weight equipment including). To: shouldn't be a problem with the weights, and in my opinion also the CIRCUIT will suffice.
The AIR X relatively new and don't know about-concept.
If you get rid of absolutely save volume aplis.

Good luck!



ylivny  
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:27:13 PM(UTC)
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Hello

Ma – the Catalyst gets good reviews. I realized that is very popular in the long trails.
Unfortunately, there are no real reviews of the AirX. The idea of using the bouncy mattress back system. I'd love to find reviews that are related to it and a backpack.

Warham -optimal world had a backpack per trip. I'm trying to see if you can use backpack about UL (largest)-daily walks.
Anyway, if you write some shells you selected.

Jonathan
Mek31  
#6 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 12:30:03 AM(UTC)
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There is something the Small scale Catalyst ULA in the Forum?
afix  
#7 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 2:46:35 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ylivny] Hi.

Ma – the Catalyst gets good reviews. I realized that is very popular in the long trails.
Unfortunately, there are no real reviews of the AirX. The idea of using the bouncy mattress back system. I'd love to find reviews that are related to it and a backpack.

Warham -optimal world had a backpack per trip. I'm trying to see if you can use backpack about UL (largest)-daily walks.
Anyway, if you write some shells you selected.

Jonathan


I don't know much about the system, but if AIRX back across the air mattress so basically something like this (SMD STARLIGHT) and personally felt the weight enough passes to waist even weights in lbs zone. I feel the weight of the shoulders relative because there are many people who write this case had rested in 15 pounds so take my input with a grain of salt.

The needs you describe would try the OSPREY's TALON44 sold in the country and is pretty easy.
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Eli TheHiker  
#8 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 9:39:28 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ylivny] Hi.
Warham -optimal world had a backpack per trip

Don't have any need for tour group excursions, but because the subject tells me to you bag quality and walking with him. Of course that depends on costs but you don't have to buy them all at once. Buy what push you to the next tour.
Nothing is ideal for every situation.

[QUOTE = ylivny]
. I'm trying to see if you can use backpack about UL (largest)-daily walks.

Of course, his weight is 1360 grams which is pretty low.
The question is whether he will do you for long walks that weight
Maximum comfort is 18.4 and like I said I was taking it at least 20% of the weight of experience that its becomes deducted has been around 14 pounds. It depends on the rest of your equipment and your habits.

[QUOTE = ylivny]
Anyway, if you write some shells you selected.
Jonathan
The original case had 10 years ago is now tours over COBRA 75L, unfamiliar with basic back and that's why his weight relatively low around 1.8 pounds.
And an easiest day trips (around 25 litres) and OUTDOOR's convenient without back system.
I replaced the large case two years ago at the OSPREY AETHER 60
And very happy with it in every way except his own weight is 2.3 pounds.
I was looking for something and I went to last a few months ago on OSPREY TALON 44 when his weight is 1.1 pounds.
By the company is also able to carry comfortably to 18 pounds but from experience.
It is not designed for weights. Max the aamusti about 15 pounds. a three-day trip to the South and it was uncomfortable though. Another drawback (under visitors-hasn't happened) is relatively sensitive fabric. Therefore before you buy it is important to understand whether you travel warning all of narrow passageways/tunnels/trees/throwing bag or not.
Why I went on it and on other ULA or for the simple reason that everyone has a different back and after measurements of countless cases (stores with weight around 13 pounds), adjust only two models of OSPREY and ARCTERIX.

[QUOTE = afix]
The needs you describe would try the OSPREY's TALON44 sold in the country and is pretty easy.
So it is no longer sold in the country for lack of profitability. I searched all the shops are known to measure and there wasn't anyone. Everyone said you can buy but requires purchase. Finally found the model 2010 and his shop is not much different from 2011/2 (buckle here, a connection there).
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GibsonLP  
#9 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:03:29 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Mek31] there is something the Small scale Catalyst ULA in the Forum?

We have.
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