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#1 Posted : Monday, May 28, 2012 9:00:03 PM(UTC)
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Name your ribenzon,

I thought of an idea that might solve the problem of water and the atmanot of people in Israel, my idea for points.

1. to establish a kind of bungalows/shelters at certain points for Israel, especially in the South, in places where there is a problem of filling water, buying food and supplies.

2. these pavilions will allow visitors to feel confident about the trip for and organize and accompany the atmanot water and food (relatively complicated) or to fate, which also does happen unfortunately.

3. operation and establishment of the bungalows you can use volunteers, make, service, social service organizations that want to contribute to the project, including construction and operation.

4. the buildings are buildings, bars that are based on the principle of sustainability will be no Dino themselves accompany the external infrastructure (except supplies of water and food), such as latrines and grey water system, you can use different ecological farms and people who exist that want to contribute their experience.

5. the activities of the structures are primarily during the passage where the amount guaranteed in the Israel National Trail (INT) is the largest, but perhaps you can expand activity for the time needed.

6. There is room for discussion if the buildings constructed a new season, or build a permanent structure, should consider the implications of each option.

I think this could contribute greatly to hikers for Israel, the travellers which rises from year to year, and as a former bilist I know how this experience is significant and establishes a connection with the State, very powerful, so I wish many more like me who experience it.

I'd love to hear comments and comments, I'd love if there are other people who would like to participate and promote the project. My email is Hod.rivenzon@gmail.com

Thank you very much,

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#2 Posted : Monday, May 28, 2012 9:24:35 PM(UTC)
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You just walked through that door open, I contacted public officials about the same idea. The bottom line, it's almost impossible, not technically, but administrative and legal.

1. give = means allow, since most of the trail runs through reserves and/or forests of JNF or municipal land and ownership of land is a State-to get a construction permit that will. -Pavilion or anybody steal it or parts of it, or someone like him, a point on State land or teacher requires insurance, security and other disasters.

2. volunteers that sounds like a lot but will line up some small chance that sometimes won't be who comes, what do we do then? Volunteer in the field, at home, insurance, security, again. When an applicable getting there.

Tava reserves authority opposed, at least to date, such assertions in activity. Ditto the JNF.

This can only be done if the decision comes from above, like Knesset members.

I Desperate. And I've been working in this field for a long time.

There were good intentions of donors who wanted to give temporary structures, containers, trailers, but it never helped.

In the country don't want to Crown and even construction. I suggested a Bedouin encampment tent-like, without thinking and rejected.

The system in this country is afraid of such things. And since this is State land and within our nation we live-shot.

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:20:45 AM(UTC)
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I understand what you're saying, and it really kind of lowers motivation. But I believe you can do anything if you want.

From what I understand you, the main problems are: permission to establish a structure and funding for operations, security, insurance, etc.

I have some ideas on the issue of funding:

1. sponsored business travel network "also", "Ricochet", or any other business that finds interest in sponsorship and travellers populations.

2. sponsor of the Memorial, in Exchange for a contribution, of course.

3. to market it to people who lost savings to rescue units, and hence gives legitimacy to the financing by the State.

4. encourages tourism for me Israel, raises the Earth to a higher level, like trekking in New Zealand and the United States, it might buy out the Foreign Ministry and they agree to support.

5. to get free visitors to the booths, which is part of the Fund expenses.

About the first thing I think it is essential that the Bedouin population doesn't keep such structure or male he will be starting a new village, need to figure out what's going on instead of seasons where there. Secondly, I believe that there will be people who want to volunteer for such a thing, especially if it would be at a high level to allow a good standard of living, people will come to this place for a little break away from this world. About volunteer management, I think the best idea is to set up a website where volunteers can stroke themselves at their convenience, with a limit to the amount of volunteers per day and thus be spread of volunteers throughout the season. I hope it will be really as I think I may be wrong, to do a survey about it.

Yes, indeed there are many obstacles on the way, but I'm going to try to find solutions.

Can you tell me more about your process?

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:00:58 AM(UTC)
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Just to explain. Was the black water disposal in a parking lot near Eilat, and was used as the source of the fire.

A booth as you suggest, or ioshacht, or must be destroyed, or stolen, or itnahlo where all kinds of people, homeless people, anarchists, Bedouin, "pirates", etc.
Unfortunately it is not applicable. Especially like the Negev area where Israeli sovereignty ends 100 meters off the road.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:21:09 AM(UTC)
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Topographic Commission no powers except space to mark trails after they have received confirmation from the relevant authorities. And others read what Ma wrote.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:59:55 AM(UTC)
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Unfortunately encouraged and the only way to help visitors that actually live on for problematic locations. Warham 41058.388912037
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:15:42 PM(UTC)
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What about establishing a well-organized garage with tap water? Don't do it because of the fear that all the water used to be there, or for other reasons?

Thought on water regulation mechanism that can be used every day 20 liters for example. What do you think? This can solve the problem?

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:09:33 PM(UTC)
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North of Arad no problem of water. In remote areas in the Negev has a water line or a large water tank so you can put them with engine throttling.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:58:02 PM(UTC)
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I find it hard to believe that water moved to parking sources, means stealing or theft of the pipe itself. Water in the parking lot. stolen immediately and stay for camping.

It should be a systemic solution and all State action without talking about her will not be official institutions which rump-kicking.

Offer-send a letter to the nature reserves authority, JNF, Minister of the environment and Minister of education responsible for the nature and begin to roll. I personally am pessimistic. The bureaucracy is so complex.

Maybe I should find some politician "walking" and to insert the picture.

Arden, Minister for environmental protection, marathon runner himself, Herzog also holds the foot in the shoe.

Who else? ....

Maybe Sports Committee in the Knesset.

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:31:03 PM(UTC)
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True to the Jewish Traveler discusses the establishment of parking garages on Israel. The parking of the JNF where it allows for

The existing parking garage West (near).

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:08:33 PM(UTC)
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This new, nationwide? Who are discussing.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:12:38 PM(UTC)
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The Keck.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:04:48 AM(UTC)
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:14:35 AM(UTC)
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KKL-JNF discussed with Alone in the room? Without the nature and Parks Authority?

Tell me more about this scene, don't keep me in suspense.

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:32:41 AM(UTC)
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Hart controls only on reserves. Open spaces outside the nature reserves is not the Keck's Scrat establishes dozens of trails and parking lots is

For riders in the occupied territories ". I guess the JNF Hart's phone if they wish to enter. So why are you nervous?

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:55:51 AM(UTC)
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True, but some of Israel the JNF forests for passing? What I encounter in my work in the forests in the North, there are no overnight camping parking solution.  Check with sources.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:26:56 AM(UTC)
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My suggestion is that all night parking in remote areas will be burying a large hall in which the Chief Gioberti;.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:27:11 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = hodri]

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Name your ribenzon,


I thought of an idea that might solve the problem of water and the atmanot of people for Israel.



Well done on the initiative and good will.

As mentioned, the main logistical problem is water.
I personally wouldn't want to see desert bungalows, trash cans, etc. I think a minimum fixed in landfills is ideal.

How to maintain your business, and it is an interesting discussion.
For me have to think about a water tank, simply not worth stealing, to sabotage him. I think most camping would be happy to pay a small fee in order to maintain such a thing.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:07:12 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = זמי1] true, but some of Israel the JNF forests for passing? What I encounter in my work in the forests in the North, there are no overnight camping parking solution.  Check with sources.

in the Apocalypse graduate Brett with the Committee, and shall fall heavy army Keck, and parking lots, and sponsored location for hikers, and the Minister of water struck out and tap water sources.

And the addition of two parking lots away from the blessed, even if this Dan Arad Keck forests.

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#20 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 3:02:10 AM(UTC)
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Harmonix, the problem is we haven't invented the water tank should not steal; The water in the area has a demand at the moment and some people there lack of, and usually has.
As for injury-a few years ago vandals (I guess some) move * all * the marks for over a half-mile in Black River, to send people to this aruzzon wrong. It took a lot of effort and certainly terrible laugh them. Was it equals?
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