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elbazon  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:37:05 PM(UTC)
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Does anyone know where I can buy waterproof compression sack and
What is the ideal material sealed and too easy???

So not really care about the shrink I want to put the entire contents of the bag in the bag then. Something like 45-50 liters.

In Ireland can be very rainy.

Thanks to all those in the know.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:54:56 PM(UTC)
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If you don't have a contract and want cheap and only protection from rain and garbage bag
Made of very soft material!

And seriously-on eBay a lot of households shrink types (register Bag Dry), you're asking should cost 50 burner without shipping.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:15:48 PM(UTC)
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If you don't mind the contraction and think you would be easy, I would suggest you to test Dry Bags/Pack Cuben Liner. It's not like Kim from Cuba, Cuben Fibre material called and is (very) and inexpensive.

Here are some links:
Http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=148

Http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/dry_bags.shtml

Http://lukesultralite.com/content/cuben-fiber dry-bags.

I must say that I have no personal experience with the raw materials or the companies to which I linked-if you buy such a product would be happy if you share your impressions!
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:22:13 PM(UTC)
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If the bag in a backpack to water. There backpack rain cover and not leave without him.

If shcsh in a pod, collapse, I was wrapping him in plastic garbage bag favor

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#5 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:37:24 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = guy816] If you don't mind the contraction and think you would be easy, I would suggest you to test Dry Bags/Pack Cuben Liner. It's not like Kim from Cuba, Cuben Fibre material called and is (very) and inexpensive.


You could say that about a lot of things, but CUBEN "inexpensive" isn't one of them.

Strongest material, it is very easy from the racing world junks (yachts) and manufactured exclusively by one company.

The storage bags, I don't see the advantage that (negligible weight savings and cheaper substitutes).
שלוות-עולמים  
#6 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:29:37 AM(UTC)
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Agree with Ma,
If you are looking for efficient. mild-= trash
Take the thought you are using ב"שק to heaven" as a lining so it should be flexible and easy to use and "steal" too much volume.
One more thing, note that garbage bags with a very bad smell (some ones), make sure you find one that has no smell!!
MikeC  
#7 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2012 11:30:45 AM(UTC)
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Just for the record:
Before I touched the techniques and material threats.
Threats-like everything in life needs to define reference-threat in the Israel National Trail (INT) trip in November which will be maybe a little rainy? October tour in Scotland? RAFTING??? I mean what are the odds for rain and strong, how likely is it to fall River case, drying options etc


Techniques-about four techniques for water retention I know:
1)-coverage of all kinds have big fabric that surrounds the case mostly from 5 sides (often backless) simple and cheap technique and protects against most, but rain in hard rain and long (Ireland, Scotland, etc) finally penetrate the water. Advantages: cheap, easy to put on and take off, largely prevents the fabric of the bag to absorb water (can exacerbate weight and freezing). Cons: not really opaque, vulnerable thorns etc, not separate wet ibish equipment in the bag.
2) internal LINER-large waterproof bag that contains all/most of the contents of your bag. Advantages: cheap, simple, allows the separation between dry and wet gear in the bag, protected in principle, completely sealed. Disadvantages: not protecting the case itself, it's kind of hard to maneuver (think big bag and sealed air should shrink each time), adjusting for size (75L, 55L, 35L etc)
3) DRBAGS-infinite variations (including Kim atoms can shrink fabric-based EVENT) but mostly separate bag that you pack your gear then put specific to the case. Advantages: flexible packaging everything separately, basically completely opaque. Cons: more expensive to buy many small tinkering, not protecting a fabric
4) no relevant way HARDCASE for our equipment except maybe electronic equipment, but of course there are airtight as PELICAN. Advantages: very, very durable disadvantages: expensive, heavy, high


Most people in hard rain conditions using two of these measures-usually something big to protect the majority and another level of protection for sensitive equipment (shcsh etc)

About-except of course materials weight has three major features: the first is mean RESISTANCE ABRASION resistance to abrasion PUNCTURE RESISTANCE second puncture resistant and most importantly HYDROSTATIC HEAD mean opacity (often measured according to ISO on a mm of water per unit area often the temptation is to take very light materials (garbage bag or SILNYLON CUBEN/CTF3) but mostly these materials very low resistance (primarily for punching) and relatively low opacity for understanding high-level tents has opacity of say 10000 15000 Anne while some These materials have opacity less than 1000
You can check yourself by filling water DRYBAGS and. .. And many other surprises:)

Read this.
With measurements of various materials. Very interesting.

Here there is a video of CTF3 measurement with MYLAR cover 0.15-does not necessarily represent all types but note that leak begins at 560ממ

And the articleis about experimenting with SILNYLON


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easyman  
#8 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:37:02 AM(UTC)
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Sea to Summit Dry Sack Small eVent Compression attribute X has that great there. Here is SMALL LARGE X's better. Easy waterproof great Australian company, shrank so small you can get better on Earth as on eBay. There I got a superior product very easy hold contracts with ease, waterproof entirely. ... I bought the XL LARGE incoming ש"קש. Leiner clothes etc. It is recommended that

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MikeC  
#9 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2012 11:22:02 PM(UTC)
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I also have such as EASYMAN (to some GRANITEGEAR with EVENT and CUBEN) my problem with this is relatively high weight and lately I find that shrink bags not very effective-create browse hard bowling ball well neraz
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