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#21 Posted : Sunday, July 1, 2012 1:46:15 AM(UTC)
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Course oedipoda, thanks.

You're right about the shadow points, meaning the shadow about halfway through each day.

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#22 Posted : Sunday, July 1, 2012 2:55:47 AM(UTC)
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Jonathan-fun to see you write here.

Yair-well done on the research and preparatory work.
I joined things said here.
October is already much more likely, but it can still be fun and even dangerous.

Specify John temperature in mitzpe Ramon and cold morning than other regions because of the height of the level.
Within the desert temperatures sometimes high on 3-4 degrees than at the top.
Furthermore, the temperature in the solar constant is much harder. The ground temperature can be high at 20-25° c temperature. Now try to imagine walking in Wadi, without spirit, when you are surrounded by hot rocks on three sides-the effective temperature that the body dealing with it is much higher.

After Boo, I join the recommendation of Jonathan to do some preparation course before it in the desert (preferably under conditions similar to those that go). The route of Har Ardon is also beautiful, and close enough to civilization if necessary.
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#23 Posted : Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:11:56 AM(UTC)
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Brian price tag.

Very few travellers go to space in July and August, also includes short pieces. Normally we advise not to go on the call.

In the pumping station dishon stream of eye spring (before Alma bridge) water faucet for the benefit of travellers. Only use these water: shower with hot water.

In Nahal Amud grouse South pools are dangerous to travel in the summer. There is also a warning sign of authority instead. The village of Jordanian press day very easy approximately 22 km figure Division through Fort Worth.

About hiking in the Negev, I suggest you to check yourself in, and only if this is set, try. If North hot time in wiping this name impossible and dangerous.

Help to ease a bit, tell us your experience here this summer and then also. Just go into the concatenating assignment this summer.

Have fun, but be careful!

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#24 Posted : Sunday, July 1, 2012 10:26:05 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yairbunzel] I spent all Saturday tables in an attempt to push as many days since October. All your serious arguments and convincing and I wanted to ask what size they perceive in October?

October is a month past season classic Especially in the second half.

What does it mean? You static for June-July-August-September replace large fluctuations in weather.

Many are tough on one hand (and already mentioned "Rabbinical kiita kiita" end of keyboard) and pleasant days for walking.

October is the month the classic for. .. ... And so arrive to Arad in November and the South on moving shon weather already.

October I think it a matter of luck. There will be years in which it will be possible to walk most days October South and also years most days of October are not suitable for maximums. Anyway on Oct doubt someone will give you the sharpest warnings of precision you get over July and August in the North and September. Just a matter of luck and must be updated in Outlook-stop.

Just an example to understand what you are going to cope. The end of the week we spent in Fort Worth friends couples group. A friend asked me to arrange a morning walk ", so I took them to Fort Worth-view path of Nehemiah

3 kilometer walk back and forth (total 6 km) from Fort Worth to the colony with Israel connection at the beginning of the Observatory and back.

We started at 7:30 in the morning, finished at nine we had no equipment besides two water bottles each of 2 liter and 1.5 liter one and half hour noted friend of the walk was very pleasant. Then go 22 miles with full equipment under these conditions to the village of Kish? Insanity!

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#25 Posted : Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:55:13 PM(UTC)
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I'm glad to see that more voices are joining the discussion.
I'm also impressed that some southern port baintan (Arad-Eilat) in early October (inshallah) overall tone varies from easy "under any circumstances" to "suffer not die but cautious behavior."
Am I right?
The discussion on the South before the end but also the discussion about the North and (I hope).
Go to Kfar Kish in Jordan in August. There is no doubt. I intend to cut in half (to turn). Also in August, Amud stream. Cut to 2 to amiad road. Etc.
In the North, I'm much more flexible. I carry far less weight because I was staying at home, friends and have more shadow and I communities at home compared to the South. I fell on a hot day, wrong time account etc.-more roads. Underestimate in the lower Galilee or the ups of Tabor/Yaron etc but everybody has been made also in months. Of course, a few years have passed since and so progressively important.
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#26 Posted : Sunday, July 1, 2012 5:34:15 PM(UTC)
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It's not exactly what I said, at least not exactly what I said.

What I was trying to convey is that October is roulette.

To illustrate what I mean see the totals for subsequent monthly October 2011 and 2010

October was relatively comfortable. There were two or three days of heat when I think you can't go (more than 39 degrees in Be'er Sheva) and the rest of the month was possible to walk.

Http://www.ims.gov.il/NR/rdonlyres/C84C02E9-427E-4BB0-68A00423ECA0-BA06/0/oct11new.pdf

However, if in October 2011 were only 2-3 days when you cannot go on year mountains October 2010 there were maybe 2-3 days so you can go on other days were heavy and extreme heat waves.

Http://www.ims.gov.il/NR/rdonlyres/EEFC9E4A-A8FD-47E8-9569-1B3E87477FAE/0/oct10.pdf

How October 2012? Neither you nor I nor anyone else knows. But you take a serious wager here, time off work, business plans, and will fall again on October as 2010

About North I remained in my opinion despite your explanations. In the high temperature page around in 4-5 degrees less because of the topography of high walls closing in on narrow gorge and prevent any wind. If in normal summer day 37/8 degrees at Nahal Amud has at the same time lower 42/3. It's not the weather to do nor shortened trip, even with 12 pounds on your back instead of 16.

What about the Arbel cliff? You know the March in memory of the soldier who died there of dehydration?

From Fort Worth to Kfar Kish 18 kilometers including a 3 mile almost to the Union for, including a brutal climb to the Observatory that includes borrowing except for goddess in Atlantic and some huge trees over a few kilometers later showroom has no shadow and assault level in agricultural fields.

But leave the airoas-make 60 kilometers on the coast of Al Zarqa to Tel Aviv port (except for a small sign-in area of Hadera forest and Park) with 80 percent humidity and shade even uncomfortable in my opinion (if not at risk persons) ask all Tel Aviv takes to go 500 meters outside AC. ..

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#27 Posted : Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:42:27 PM(UTC)
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Hello again!

After a few days of testing and r & d with the following picture emerges:
Departure from Arad on 1 October.
Directions to get to Eilat in 3 weeks with a gap or two/three (plus). A total of 23 days in gross.
And the heat was not allow to get safely up to 22/23 October complete the task. I hope that we will succeed in this mission without risk. As has been said, and rightly recognizing our limits are not overlooked.
We have about 30 days ("payments" on weekend and holidays) to walk the tracks to Arad. Start this weekend.
After a few סופ"שים in the North go down a little taste ...
If people know the shadow points (beyond which specified in the Guide) that allow an extended lunch break (3-4 hours) In the South especially, but also in the rest of the path (of course except for. ..)
I'd love to hear.
What is your opinion on? It weighs six pounds (?) but the flies/gnats will appreciate it? Incidentally, when wood what hanging around? There are creative ideas? On walking sticks?


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#28 Posted : Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:52:54 PM(UTC)
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1 it's very borderline, and as you've been told it is very prone to. You're taking a big risk here. Jonathan and Yuval's comments regarding the influence of the weather, and the averages are very extreme.
Actually not comfortable hot days are not touring (in the summer of 2010 went something like 100 miles just for the trail) on the one hand, I understand your passion, motivation, but also the risks. Consider it the most pleasant in summer.



Two very important data:
1. What is the children's fitness What is the maximum distance between the ahalsh. What their experience of walking with a backpack and eight pounds? (Assuming you're not going to carry 20 liters of water every day). Your personal have realized during "everything on the back, but that's cycling experience.

2. manage-jerking? Who takes you

I'd divide the segments of travel festivals (Sukkot, Hanukkah, Passover) and weekends. But if bride and nachrata it with you, I have a few recommendations:
A. this weekend will be warm but not hot. Found sitting in the area of Arad.
Friday: started as soon as possible after 6 chops us have great shadow Park Arad. To have 4 exposed Arad (outside the cave in which a stung zeelim tick that gave a gift in the form of q fever that strike me half the winter including prolonged hospitalization). With 7.5-year-old boy made the Tel Arad Arad (10 km) in 4.5 hours.

Saturday: Arad mount Kina and landing (10 km + 20 km by). You have a great shadow across 31 road below near a agorth method (deviation of a few hundred meters) Note that walking in will not rest though it is a relatively quick path to stream pteranthus and clay below and compared with the 10 km of the womb River shuffle in.

Such a trial trip weather of onion with 31 on his back (although you can also Malachi and carry less trail-first trip anyway.)

Other experience trips on the trail can be done on the mountain taller Negev:
-Beat the Negev highlands more than light wavelength part computer: 17 km, mostly on Jeep road, excluding a reduction to a crater from the computer (bottom up vehicle accessible soft computer)
-Up to the car computer farm or guess. you have Shadow Creek Ranch Mall points and cool shade at the back will be fine for hours. Monday's tribute, snake thirst until ein shaviv. The whole distance is 10 km 21 + km to extractthe speeded-up to. Eye chip need 4 bounce (Jonathan, did after the renovated pipe and took the step at the bottom up Chin so at least until Zeke parking can be reached with leasing?)

On the other hand, can "minimize damage" using several methods
To go from South to North. Experienced travelers know the effect of the Sun when not neck. When all the trail means nothing to the sequence or direction. You don't have to start in Eilat but mitzpe Ramon

If you select this option, start your journey in mitzpe Ramon and after you arrive to Arad continued and ended at the Observatory (Eyal Halfon completed his journey in the book the lovely letter).

B. some parts bike (in the West, for example, or tsihor to stream packages)
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#29 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 3:24:35 PM(UTC)
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Glad to see more participants in the discussion, and thanks for all the helpful suggestions.
And nachrata to go after all the preparations and precautions you can take. I am also determined to be responsible enough to both decisions along the way. Stop when it's hot. For help. To cancel/postpone days depending on circumstances. To change the path and reach the village road.
We all experience in long walks and navigation. With pounds on my back and I think also to carry 15 kilos in certain sections. But I always get the water at the end of the day.
We have no experience in continuous hike of several days with the whole House.
Therefore we start gradually individual days and three dialog.
This weekend we're close Northern sections but definitely head South in the next few weeks.
Seriously considered bike such as the coastal plain.
As the night walk in the ways of jeeps.
There are also bounces (few) like road sections around the power station in Hadera and the shizafon road.
The trick with sections from South to North (expect Arad – then expect). Walk with the Sun on my back is really better. In our case it means go into the South a week earlier. The changeable weather of October that doesn't necessarily mean the week later will be less hot but so be it. I'm debating whether or not the principle of succession in Eilat after we left from Tel Dan is worth the price of the walk in the Sun.
Looks like we're going to decide we're closer and more experienced. Thank you for all the helpful tips!
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#30 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 3:42:00 PM(UTC)
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Preparations and tricks it's sort of like the weather in October should be accurate as gymnastic exercise on punctual, a painful fall.

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#31 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:32:04 PM(UTC)
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With your feet on both sides.
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#32 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:59:31 PM(UTC)
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That's why exercise is performed only by girls.
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#33 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 7:52:34 PM(UTC)
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Yair, to complicate things a little more you

We talked about the many who can rein in October but should talk about rainfall in October.

Bead system have called a sea channel characteristic and affects mostly South and East of the country and can cause severe floods.

These events were very common in the 80s and 90s of the last century.

In the last decade and some hardly ever were, but that doesn't mean anything, of course.

I still think that with a bit of luck in October can go south at least most days but it is very important to forecast at least twice a day so as not to get caught in a flood.

Here's an article about sea channel. You can skip all the explanations of global warming and climate change and align the bottom where there is a summary of all the flooding events in the South in October.

Http://www.israelweather.co.il/page3.asp?topic_id=77&topic2_id=100&page_id=95

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#34 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:44:40 PM(UTC)
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A little tip about the equipment.

Rather all trokazna equipment questions one post on the Forum, and this entry leave questions about the trail.
We look forward also to join you later in the summer or some section overlaps with our child. Hard to find summer travelers.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:36:34 PM(UTC)
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Guy: why it is hard to find a serious summer travel: a trip this summer to people not really serious. (Don't take it personal Yair ) 41095.8315393519 yankale17
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#36 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:49:12 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = iobelsh]


Here's an article about sea channel. You can skip all the explanations of global warming and climate change and align the bottom where there is a summary of all the flooding events in the South in October.


Http://www.israelweather.co.il/page3.asp?topic_id=77&topic2_id=100&page_id=95


 



Considering that, according to this document, the last flood occurred 15 years ago, so I wish this will be his troubles-it doesn't sound reasonable.

Yair-sounds sensible and responsible enough to take all security and safety measures are appropriate, so I wish you a good trip and hope you return to Forum with prescriptions so that everyone can learn from your experience.
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#37 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 11:09:10 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yairbunzel]
Extended lunch (3-4 hours) In the southern parts primarily


You must close on the meaning of what you plan to do. Your ability to handle borderline situations/agents in real time, as it may be, is not going to help you if your design is inherently flawed.
Siesta on a hot day in October can easily surf for five and even six hours. About double what you plan. And already wrote about it!
I just got back from a week in targeted reserve. All training was mounted on jeeps.
I fixed my roasting quality (...) that I brought from home about, and I must say that in the afternoon to soak in the hot tub was just a nightmare.
Today in the credits, the packaging of the jungle including roasting and refundable on the Jeep. Unbearable was very understatemnt!!! Burns and Burns is a better way to describe the feeling.
When moving. At about 8:30. When moving. At approximately 19:00. Now check what height it and compare to the West.
And I went down 5. And carried weight.
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#38 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 11:19:05 PM(UTC)
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Using Jonathan, you know anything about higher oil axis to specify and to hurt? The place was refurbished and transferred to leasing?
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#39 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2012 11:37:56 PM(UTC)
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It is known that it is the Sun of the day is at 16:00. North also begins to be uncomfortable at 09:00.  6-7 hours on warm days that's what it takes to plan, also in the North!

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After the explosion on the oil pipeline has been renovated completely and was moving even scooter. But since it's been a while so I just knew about it.
The oil axis until up Zeke was always slightly tricky point to one half of the Chin where Hart put boulders forming a tricky class to priibatim. As I recall this step still exists.
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