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ninelives99  
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 22, 2012 5:58:29 PM(UTC)
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The bag should fit around the zero temperature and small sight seeing
(Planning next trip abroad is only next summer but seems now only $ going to climb up to him, so I am now considering your purchase).

From what I understand from the site of Zpacks temperature of the bag the guy produces both temperature limit for men. Then, as a girl who likes to sleep with also lying reverse would encourage me to buy a kg intended to 20F (instead of pounds intended to 30F)?

And what actually Zpacks?
Finally the time came to go to quilt. As the first Zpacks's kowiltim quilt fit for my needs (minus the fact that it is impossible to open the bag until the end. Goldendoodle to combine Zpacks and anliitand's quilt akoipmant.)

In addition, there's someone who has "official" subscription (that you pay him money) BPL-site
I thought to find a Gear swap Forum Zpacks kg but only now noticed to advertise there need a subscription.
If anyone has a subscription and has no problem post WTB thread for me I will be grateful.


Either way ... I'd like to know you the designatedbag41112.6317939815 ninelives99
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#2 Posted : Sunday, July 22, 2012 7:57:37 PM(UTC)
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Why it's time to go to quilt?

This bag is still just sleeping bag can be used as a sort of quilt. Arthur 41112.707974537
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#3 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 12:30:56 AM(UTC)
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Read the relevant post http://hike.co.il/forum_...TID=8211&KW=MikeC&TPN=1.

And I have a lot of information about ZPACKS and others I'd like to share. Private shareholders.

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#4 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 2:35:36 AM(UTC)
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To open the WTB concatenation should be built, but to respond to someone, you just need to be registered.

The temperature of the bag is not extreme but should be positive or less (Joe says he adds 20% to 30%, just to be sure).

By the way, keep in mind that in order to achieve this low weight, very tight figure (some would say even at all claustrophobic).
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#5 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 12:11:05 PM(UTC)
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The Zpacks's product can fit me in as "quilt." because he has no head cover area (where I anyway never used) and easier than I have (of course). In terms of sector is supposed to match Joe declares of 56 "and to my surprise, that's exactly what I got today (not surprising-quite small), so it shouldn't be a problem.
The fact that their products are really more of a "quilt." very appealing to me as a good transition option.
The only thing that really is not too bad arochsen is coming down.

Mikey, thanks for the information. Of course I know this post to length and breadth

About BPL-I'm probably not going to find anybody who publishes just the size I was looking for. Looking for what most publishers saw no publications on short but regular pounds or long. Publishing a notice may get specific a girl with short from the borough.

And most importantly, about the temperature-I think this is a men's and women's comfort ... This is the default when nothing else, I guess. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'm probably going to send an email just to make sure what goes on there.
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#6 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 12:25:09 PM(UTC)
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If you feel cold, you might want to order the 20F.
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#7 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 1:32:35 PM(UTC)
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Send me private message what do you want to purchase and post for you on BPL.
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#8 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 1:54:34 PM(UTC)
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Awesome!!! Thanks dawn. A message through to you:)
MikeC  
#9 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 1:59:43 PM(UTC)
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Just choose:
Aniesi-JOE there's too little to Temps he specifies. And he knows it. The "30%" in relation to the volume of the cells and nothing to RATING ENGINE TEMP
-JOE isn't really new in ... Only in DESIGN that is interesting. I also considered because of the integration between shcsh allegedly to QUILT but after much thinking and gave up because I don't think it's truly effective.

I'm sure I (in this case) understand well why I buy it and shcsh or QUILT and if the mod work I imagine is relevant (i.e. closed and sleeping on the rizertz.
I think in the end tell you som. QUILT for anything.

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#10 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 3:32:52 PM(UTC)
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Yes, I've read reviews online and I did compare the fill amount compared to other kowiltim. This is another reason I'd rather get the 20F though intrinsic to plus or minus 30F.

In terms of design, I thought about it quite a bit. The use of the lower rizertz right for me right now. The extra weight but significant advantage is to have a smooth transition to the kowiltim category (since I too think that in the future most likely use this quilt bag everything).
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#11 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 4:14:17 PM(UTC)
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About fill-cool.

About DESIGN-think if it is closed then actually shcsh without opening but (!) you can't hang out with (because there is no DRAFT TUBE on rizertz) only to turn around inside it for me all the disadvantages of QUILT without actual benefits.
HAVING SAID THAT-if you want it and b plans to sleep with him as there are several QUILT so I added extras that allow it. As stated I would be happy to let more info ... Big things that I notice them:
-Quantity and its distribution (uniform or not. The woman then maybe some different considerations
-Materials (standard or not.
HOOK LOOP in addition to & rizertz that allow convenient use as here also QUILT
-Closing option behind the neck even when open sharizertz (with ' skotz say) is important because otherwise you won't be able to shrink around the neck as you with open rizertz
The foot area (FOOTBOX) built in very successful relative to competitors and would choose the size to make it comfortable.
-Dimensions-most people who read the book and a little longer than chiailo needed Can do 6-inch BAFFLE instead of 5 say
2 sizes: most men it was tight.
-Dimensions: the TAPER-IE changing the width to the length of shcsh is right with him (which he narrowly) the TAPER may not be there at all — that is, width or straight-IE decreases linearly from top to bottom, or something in between (HALF TAPER) that remains constant until the knees then. The TAPER is affecting the ability to move around easily within the QUILT specifically around the knees. In addition, some do it just a combo expanding VARIABLE in the elbows-narrow and becoming wider again.

Look at the piksha of JAVAN and can see the differences.

-DRAFT-COLLAR ' to JOE in the neck and I think the disadvantage especially QUILT. You can add

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#12 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 7:53:55 PM(UTC)
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All the points mentioned here the point that most touched my heart is the narrow footbox (again, like I said before, I cannot open anything/air the feet).
What did you mean when you said "to hone your size" Can I ask to change the size of the personal reasons by footbox

Edit: OK ... I talked to Joe (his response was to Allah). If you do decide to buy from him won't be a problem to resize the footbox so it's probably what I'll do.

As for the other virtues-I don't think I have the problem of claustrophobia. The low temperature of my bag is just has the same dimensions and he tied me. In addition, I have no problem walking around inside (from experience), so that the lack of draft tube issue doesn't concern me too much. On the contrary, the minimalist design is what captured me.

Changes to John shek.
Today, his bag with Velcro in the neck region.
In addition, the option of adding an existing DRAFT TUBE as an option taken in the database (you can choose to add and no need to ask).

About the link to pictures-beautiful photos! I just wish write who manufactures each have very nice stuff.
Do you have any information about the manufacturer? Ninelives99 41113.8885532407
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#13 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 10:00:48 PM(UTC)
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DEMPSY JAVAN is a kowiltim manufactured by others.

You can contact him through BPL.
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#14 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 10:37:17 PM(UTC)
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Cool ... I run a short search on it.
Just for interest. It's pretty damn interesting (prices, materials, opinions).
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:41:54 PM(UTC)
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But YMMV if use QUILT with lying so I really haven't things lift them. Of course like everyone do your learning process but there are a few issues that I learn from others rather than waste time:)

About: FOOTBOX
The design of JOE looks so simplistic and
In contrast for example toNUNATAK
Or WM and KATABATIC here.
Note that the KATA resembles a little to ZPACKS but (!) is an anatomical-i.e. in the angle of inclination to the feet.
In short, the reason I think it is a maximized FOOTBOX because some poor design

About skotz-he added that apparently after discussions with. I'd also make sure the name skotz ' LOOP that can be transferred through SHOCK CORD-the reason is that if you want to sleep with double shcsh (i.e. the QUILT above shcsh) or clothing (any make) you won't be able to close the small piece of CORD skotz but easily allow effective closure and using CINCH CORD that shrinks your neck but enough to maneuver behind the neck.

About-guzzling DRAFT COLLAR ' – I'm not talking about what protects the rizertz but (!) of which around the neck. See: all the QUILT's concept is that chshker you close around and sleeps with a warm hat or BALACLAVA. The sealing of air running around the neck is usually he doesn't sock Hat backwards but then say brass neck interface not very opaque unless shut the contraction (!) hard. The solution to this problem is just like NECKCOLLAR KATA (look here: http://katabaticgear.com...s/IMG_5338-1-300x200.jpg just around the neck of the TUBE has) obviously not critical. So worth a thought and it adds a fun


About closing tracks and rotation within the QUILT-I think you do under-estimate to DRAFTS that are created by the rotation movement. I am much (!) wider than you and I can easily narrow shcsh close. Because it is relatively easy. The problem starts when you change with open rizertz and then want to turn around and get the ikrero the Interior DRAFTS shcsh.
For the sake of it would do two things:
1) requesting from JOE sew loops as showed in the previous post (you don't have to leave the CORD you can remove it — the price is maybe a few individual gram) is also good for contraction around the body and is very helpful especially if you sleep with another layer (shcsh or clothing) because it's kind of hard to feel how close the QUILT you shouldn't too close rizertz
2) do experiment with a blanket with safety pins cut by measurements of JOE across for (if I'm not mistaken 5th top BAFFLES are if the maximum width and then drops linearly to 28 ... But ask him explicitly to measure) and then play with the Harrier area etc.-I find the rotating on a mat 20 "width (like regular THERMAREST) and make sure you don't open it takes DRAFTS across more than you thought.

About additional options:
I was thinking to add to autziit kitsktz in vent (optional but sometimes helps)
-At the time I considered adding a small pocket of fabric to the mat like http://cache.backpacking...ads/1292211742_34147.jpg


About JAVAN right. Unfortunately he stopped producing because he (tried to seduce him) I think he now produces knives and hatchets ^ $ # @% # &

Mickey
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:11:58 PM(UTC)
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OK ... The footbox now much clearer. The images illustrate it very well. I wonder really how the difference in zpacks is noticeable.
Right now it seems to me that if I go to zpacks I will ask to extend the legs to 35 inches instead of 30 (and then the parameters will be the same as my hot bag) + I would add loops (feel that will zip and loops, but for me it makes the transition easier).

I need to think about. There are good points to think about.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:57:05 PM(UTC)
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Update:

I decided to go for it and buy a Zpack sleeping bag. 35 "-box. Fasteners and loops. Without Draft collar ' but simply using brass cover and sealing if cold in the face and neck area (that's what I do anyway).

It is noteworthy that Jordan from Zpacks was very polite and answered emails at lightning speed. In addition, he agreed not to submit an invoice, agreed not to write off the cost of the product package and told that what he was doing in the international delivery service, lucky.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:37:50 PM(UTC)
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I never got to order, but they all rave about his service.
I understand you've invited 20F?
Awaiting a report/review.

Miss Burkhart!
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:15:39 PM(UTC)
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Yes ... 20F, when I asked him what he thinks I should buy, he said the following about-30F.:

The should be pretty comparable ratings restrictions to other sleeping bags available, but I think the 30F rating engine is probably the lower limit for me. In other words I would be chilly but not freezing. I almost always carry a 20 * bag.

My conclusion here is that the temperatures it indicates to his bag is very borderline. Curious to see how it works out.
I think that would be appropriate for me, 20F, given all the data and limitations but still the whole thing stressful.

Waiting time is 4 weeks. I can guess that be quite some time until the package is going to be in my hands but when it happens will also be reported. Course 41114.8035648148 ninelives99
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:06:26 PM(UTC)
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Keep in mind that the difference between men's and women's RATING ENGINE TEMP is what 5 ~ 7° c (and usually have about 30% more shcsh women in her village Temps)

I think if you combine all the information here it says:
1 JOE 20F) is borderline for men for 20F (-6.7 c)
There are SHORT only if REG/286 c upside down compared to for instance similarly KATABATIC 330 grams and has 325 have ENLIGHTENED. For comparison to KATA of 30F has 250 c (notice there is less surface area in KATA because he's a real QUILT
2) so let's get shcsh 25F. men need this discussion 4.
3) then let's add that some 6 degrees and get 2 +!!!!!!
4) i.e. it's likely for you shcsh + ~ +

To return to the original post you want shcsh around zero and minus reduce need to add some 30% make it 370גרם this area similar to 10F (shcsh note also that the BAFFLE HEIGHT needs to be adjusted to enable larger quantities and therefore hot model is about 2.75 inches

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