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kfir_b  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 4:53:34 PM(UTC)
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Hello Forum members =)

After I moved on past discussions in the Forum I'm trying to create a combination of 3 thermal layers-first, second and third heats from the rain and wind to be the best value in terms of weight-maintaining body heat-when it refers to trek with this equipment at first in Mongolia (20 extreme temperature), in Nepal (February-March) and end in stans (summer Less critical)

I am torn with the following combination is easy enough and warm enough. I don't have an option to buy the equipment from abroad so please don't suggest it.

Layer 1: long/thin thermal ~ 200 g/each-that means to take one long or two short and one long, one short and one long.
Layer 2: icroplis: 200 ~ 500 g weight
Layer 3: rain jacket/wind: torn between two options:
One plastic rain cover just for WILDCAT or OUTDOOR. Both stores said they are good also. I read on the Internet about someone who fucked them already. A little upsetting. The big advantage is that the weight is 250 grams.
Or professional PRECIP he recommended here in the Forum and weighs 370 grams, twice almost up – exclusive specified but must go to it.


The question is whether in terms of isolation and I organized Brown do or while icroplis (half kilo it loads)

* Read tdivenim in Forum and is still in dilemma

Thank you very much.
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arthur  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 5:44:24 PM(UTC)
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Extreme minus temperatures?
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 6:53:15 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:17:20 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = arthur] extreme minus temperatures?

On cold nights. In the days to be about 0 ~
(I say from experience of large members.)
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:36:17 PM(UTC)
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Mmm
Well let's see ... Now I'm going to light a kettle and think about it for a while.

Well I'm back.
Kfir, I think you get cold with the combination you offer.
I think it's better to give it away to a relaxing trip and equipment equipment +.

So you think if you go on foot + back in the days of equipment with 0 degrees. And at night sleep with the tent in temperatures of minus 10.

Walking-I think you need to go on some kind of soptchl and heater. Or thermal shirt long ikroplis a funkier head band-Israel. You can play with these combinations if you get cold or hot.
You need to get rid of all the heat you produce and the sweat evaporates all institutions to cool and not cool off too much.
Dilemma.


About-if I was going to like this I put in reverse or a real + green if you want to save money. Fast food dinner and got into my sleeping bag.

The rain + quality + pants ardshl easy.
With this equipment you can hatmagn from rain and wind, and he's obviously very warm with warm layers which are below.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:41:24 PM(UTC)
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Make high quality coat. MOUNTAIN HARDWER or F or N Colombia, it is very important that contracts are easy, and very warm, only keep if wet rain jacket or poncho.

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:48:37 PM(UTC)
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I am talking about the combined time of day. For the trip.
Thermal shirt + יקרופליס200 is the combination I want-whether enough or need something more than that.
The quality and easy ardshl? Model name, clue. Actually used?

The dilemma for a raincoat/wind PRECIP between Colombia's model called Hail Tech Jacket. Can't find his weight but it felt easy. And cheaper

Or go with something cheaper AZTEC's called WOMBAT.
Do you have experience with any of these names?

Thanks for the help and hope out of tea. Or coffee. Or tea.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:53:07 PM(UTC)
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You for good companies great Colombia or NF. MH, not save here in. This quality is not warm enough. I have experience with all these cheap companies do the OUTDOOR improved wonders of their equipment and clothing. Easyman 41129.7085763889
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 9:35:59 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = kfir_b] I am talking about the combined time of day. For the trip.
Thermal shirt + יקרופליס200 is the combination I want-whether enough or need something more than that.
The quality and easy ardshl? Model name, clue. Actually used?

The dilemma for a raincoat/wind PRECIP between Colombia's model called Hail Tech Jacket. Can't find his weight but it felt easy. And cheaper

Or go with something cheaper AZTEC's called WOMBAT.
Do you have experience with any of these names?

Thanks for the help and hope out of tea. Or coffee. Or tea.


1 listen Aisha's very indoidoali this will "cold or hot. You know your body and your abilities. You think you have enough thermal shirt to 0 degrees?
I remember one day I went with a minute of TNF in funkier head band-Israel 7 degrees. But I very hard when I go and generates a lot of heat because I go relatively quickly.

Such temperature all the paragraph, I think you're doing, you have very much to wrap yourself in layers can not cool.

2 less critical who makes the hardshl (make good company anyway) is more important in some "insulating" method he uses and how he stitched.
I used The North Face Venture with Hyvent. But it's such a broad market with many substances and many manufacturers.

Checked Colombia's jacket you're thinking of.
The technology of Columbia omnitec they run with it. Don't know how much he and Atom, Google the opacity (if you really want to start digging) and user feedback.
What I do see:
1. built-in Hoodie I think is very important.
2. all stitches. Good!
3. the סקוצ'ים the opening of the hands!
4. Atomic/map pocket devices!

Check whether it is convenient for you, whether it allows free movement and hands without exposing the abdomen and if it has vents in armpits.


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#10 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2012 9:41:12 PM(UTC)
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Well finally closed on the Colombia's second HAIL TECH, long brass and brass 200 thermal 300. I post after listed packaging

Thanks for the help mate =) you something something
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#11 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2012 11:28:21 PM(UTC)
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Recommend you also invest in gloves, socks, hat, head/neck warm etc.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:25:31 AM(UTC)
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#13 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:25:14 AM(UTC)
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Exists =)
If the topic were sidetracked opens the discussion would love more advice:
I have two sleeping bags in quite old models (at least 10 years in my estimation) and lack of budget, I take one of them. Both pretty heavy (1.5 ~) but no choice =
I wanted to ask two questions:
1. one sleeping bag is the SALEWA SNOWLION model. I used to COMFORT and EXTREME data appears on the sleeping bag. And it appears more of a given TOLERANCE.
There is an enormous difference between its extreme comfort-23 + 23 comfort and extreme. The tolerance ... ... usually is + 5 to 2. How to treat a sleeping bag. He seemed insanely heater that is very thick but its very comprot ... What do you say?

2. the other sleeping bag is MOUNTAIN STARWALKER model II AS I couldn't find any information on him online. The COMFORT is 15 + to 7 and extreme. Considering I sleep in tent can sleep with clothes on he seemed more reasonable option first. It is also easier for some 200 grams. Anyone have any experience with this model?

The filler of both models is synthetic.

Thank you very much.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:52:01 PM(UTC)
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1. you tried to Google what is the Tolerance, and so human.
I thought at first it was kind of Upper Limit, i.e. the highest tmprotora it is possible to use the bag. But you're saying it couldn't be that the too high.
Nothing at all of the data of this bag. I haven't seen or heard about a bag there so much difference between extreme comfort. With it's subtle difference of f 28 degrees it.

2. can't find him online information that seems to be a generic without sleeping bag he had mom and dad really. Produced by obscure factory somewhere many companies and importers each paste about the brand.
Don't know how dependable the upgrade tmprotora.
I used a synthetic sleeping bag Mountain Eagle, generic sleeping bag, too, although it had a synthetic quality of Thermolite-filling. Did the job.

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#15 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:27:04 PM(UTC)
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This is about sleeping bag of SALEWA there that is filled with termoliit and checked with importers, SALEWA SAAR and they said they know that tadgem and he sleeps and they didn't work with him and not ...

Regarding the other couldn't find him and functional extra information I think that looks less reliable first.

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#16 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:36:02 PM(UTC)
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So there's nothing left but to wish you a pleasant and successful.
Keep yourself!
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#17 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:44:39 PM(UTC)
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Thanks soul. Probably be more questions this week so fill =)
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#18 Posted : Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:18:08 AM(UTC)
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That made for such detail kg weighs 1.5. It's what it is. With effort and cash find it easier at 200 300 kg g not much more.

More importantly, I can appreciate that McCready made lying (best sleeping and squeezed like dried PITA) for 10 years in the closet not to isolate as specified on it, take it into account.

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#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:06:26 AM(UTC)
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Wait, did you say minus twenty- At night? Don't take any of these sleeping bags. None of them is coming to do work even when new.

-Salwa, a very primitive version of the rating system developed for the European standard. The best is that you burn. -Main from here to here very comfortable upstairs if a woman, whether it's a man. The lower this temperature will not die, but have a very unpleasant and also possible frostbite.

It's a new shashk. The chance that after 10 years in the closet is as effective as it was in the past, pretty thin synthetic fibers have almost not at all affected by crushing, but you should try it in temperatures below freezing.

And if you really sleeping in freezing temperatures, you should get the liner-VBL not breathing, working on the principle of confining the sweat to prevent kapiatha. Arctic permafrost temperatures is very common to use this method to get up in the morning without all your sweat freezes to ice on its way from the skin out of the bag.
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