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עודד אומן  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2012 10:23:37 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone and happy new year.

So, I started reading and looking, and I need help finding the optimal tent for my requirements:
0 tent three seasons (3000mm) that contains three people (large) on their (I think to go to the tent). The tent gets pulled.
1. tent stands on its own (that allow for interest to build on concrete unfinished on the professional term).
2. rain cover will separate from the tent, tent and sleeping with a fan as much as possible.
3. should be of Perino. Why For personal reasons. I saw a lot of tents have "three seasons" on the other hand, although one of them does not have a statement of resistance to water. Why and for what?

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:12:53 AM(UTC)
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Regarding section III, Perino's so quality is the Italian equivalent to the OUTDOOR mean Israeli products at an affordable price, nothing more.

My personal experience (in New Zealand) with tarptant (Cloudburst2) was very successful in strong winds and rains fairly strong.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:26:42 AM(UTC)
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Lior, I totally disagree with you concerning compare the Israel international Perino if only because a small difference Perino manufacture equipment also Alpine expeditions and even in our direction.
About the Tharp, I'm not a big fan of these things.

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Waterproof rating have the tents of our village but gdodel is 3000 mm to 1500 mm and cover the rest.
The company site has all the data.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:36:56 AM(UTC)
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I looked on the manufacturer. The tents that are relevant to me (in terms of price and data) are divided into three groups:
4 seasons
Lite line
3 seasons

In the first two shows of 3000 mm resistance to cover, and 4000.
In the third group, which is the most interesting to me (spacious tents, more options and models) does not appear (in the catalog) is given about waterproof. ("Gross"). Whether that's enough for New Zealand in December-March and April-May of Nepal.

Comparison-international Sounds excessive. I know it won't be MH, TNF or all companies in the big leagues, but naturally also the price will be different. And again, I'm pretty hooked on our village, not a professional reason. Encourage artist41169.9426736111
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:11:23 AM(UTC)
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To be locked up in airports and to seek help in finding optimal tent for your needs don't go together. Then choose between what Perino and installation.
If you go on a trip, so New Zealand standard so you don't get the storms slammed and there's enough cabins to hide them so I wasn't panicking especially buying a tent.

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The tarphim also has the highest resistance to rainy and snowy weather.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:13:23 AM(UTC)
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The Red rain of excellent durability Perino tents strong rains and the ground water resistant with enamel bath flooring .... The LITE models ON-LINE only. Designed for relatively good resistance to light tents in rain I have a tent and camped in storms, too. The tents of our village is no less than American and she is better. Perino company are one of the best in the world in travel gear and their equipment is very popular in Europe and Australia, the appropriate model is CHAOS 2 SS12 which doesn't fit it's the 3 SEASON tents intended mainly to camp unless the cover is blue. If you search for zap find Perino's tents at great prices there is a difference between the shops (best 2 p tent Ferrino Chaos is found). Heavier four-SEASON recreational climbers and mountain expeditions and from extreme ... Another tent that fits is tent SPECTRE although easier but less strong look that needs stakes to stabilize that is one pole and more small lateral Rod I think hard enough, a bit like double Rainbow tarptant's only hadable Rainbow one layer and if the canes. It has all the advantages in CHAOS just 1.9 pounds less easy than a great tent. The CHAOS going on its own, it has one shaft splits at the end of a very strong it Y winds, rain resistant, 3000 mm integral rain cover, almost entirely ventilated mesh protects network privacy, relatively dense and 2.4 includes everything, two entrances and balconies. This model is a replica of Hubba Hubba tent lightweight of MSR tent HUBAHUBA counts if the good reviews in the world is to add another 600 and to buy? It's easier tent weighs 2.1 and it only if a rain cover, or only if the network. And you can add and buy another 250 sheet floor of his weight. This very same FERRINO CHAOS just has no floor sheet cannot be set up only if the rain cover and כ300 g heavier but cheaper and in my opinion more Perino rain cover resistant to strong rains. Perino has the easy LIGHTENT 2 tent tunnel model about whether 4 pegs not himself but weighs 1.7 pounds. Ferrino tent Ferrino-Lightent 2 p . .. Don't be tempted to buy tents if they blue cover intended for festivals and camping not for trekking. These 3 options in Perino tents. I think the CHAOS more suited to New Zealand to strong wind conditions there which is great for summer tent without the cover. Followed by the SPECTRE if you want to save a pound in my opinion less suited to New Zealand. And III LIGHTENT very easy tunnel tent in strong winds the disadvantage is you have to put 4 pegs to stand. Don't be tempted to buy this tent for MTB festivals not slammed his fiberglass rods and no tent fan if the blue cover is not suitable for trekking. I recommend also find tent ground sheet to reserve tiibk sheet, or something else like plastic or nylon easy to protect your tent spikes, tears and moisture. Tyvek Ground Cloth note that needs to be cut from כ2ס less than a tent to buy a large piece and cut note the measurements in Pete not to seek converts measurements on the Internet and it takes about two weeks until it reaches or week. It's easy and powerful thing to floor sheet. Somehow I do not like Perino floor sheeting tents tents can buy American should do alone. Recommend to sew the edges of the curtain loops to grab a tent or a stake. Another thing is you buy a tent standing by itself doesn't mean that you don't need. Ghosts and Perino tents tent stability come if simple but strong aluminum stakes. I recommend buying a few pegs Y hard ground that's great ANNUAL GROUNDHOG MSR STAKE . This is England so shipping takes about a week to 10 days or even less. Perino tents come if provinces stretching are great but it is advisable to take a few more ropes or rope in case a storm or strong wind is very important to stretch your tent and pegs where possible.  Perino tents arriving .if basic repair kit to add beading to rubber rods and torn rubber case to learn how to do this is not difficult. It happens sometimes in tents to buy at least 12 feet or camping store and leather add tape and Sean rizertz two pieces. We recommend that you also add torus. E6000 to art shops or small building frowning tube .... To finish entering the New Zealand plane ticket you get written to a tent if not pay local deposition 220דולר fine it loads everything will take the tent and iachto. א"חכ of half an hour and rinse and dry tent or rain washes it and missing a rain ... If you determine if new packing tent may waive disinfection and are checking whether the shell casings. And get some food New Zealand and Australia are very strict about these things.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:47:19 PM(UTC)
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Not atarp not only resistant said I said I'm not a fan of this product.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:12:51 AM(UTC)
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There is no real significance to the subject of the page (3000mm).
Just like that, to facilitate the decision.
My tent 1200mm star and not a drop of rain penetrating through it.
In the snow it has more meaning, a much larger water pressure.
While any rating and write clearly that waterproof tent is enough when you buy from the manufacturer; And should not disqualify any tent because of low water column value.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:19:42 AM(UTC)
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What you're saying is that blue suit even in airports?
This complicates the decision actually.
Anyone have any experience with this particular series (ferrino 3 seasons) you can decide one way or the other?
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#10 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:16:50 AM(UTC)
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No blue are suitable for trekking. The camping is camping 3SEASON/families/teens/festivals to write not read The only tent you when standing on its own and I experience them Redcoats deserves it very tents and Perino's and have a red tent. The CHAOS is best for. .. Buy blue would be wrong. " Blue water proofed either and they're three seasons but the weight and the vent is designed to trekking and checked them. There's a link I wrote good price to FERRINO CHAOS to jump at the opportunity and buy this weight less than 330 in its other stores. And has nothing to do with this store just want help with advice.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:20:49 PM(UTC)
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Easyman, will be much easier to read your messages if you use punctuation. For example, instead of writing three points press the enter.

Then your message look like this:

[QUOTE = easyman]


No blue are suitable for trekking.
The camping is camping 3SEASON/families/teens traveling to festivals. Write read- The only tent you when standing on its own and I experience them Redcoats deserves it with tents and Perino's and have a red tent.
The CHAOS is best for blue, would be wrong.

Blue water proofed either and they're three seasons but the weight and the vent is designed to trekking and checked them. There's a link I wrote good price to FERRINO CHAOS.
You should jump at the chance and buy this weight less than 330 in its other stores.
Nothing to store just want help with advice.



Much more readable and neat, don't you think?
I wish to read the contents of your messages because the writing form. HarmonicWave 41172.3901967593
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:07:26 PM(UTC)
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Encourage

Check to see if you need a tent on your trip.

Do you f you go travel independently without relying on cabins?

As I wrote you in the Forum, Nepal common routes not required at all.

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#13 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:47:02 PM(UTC)
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In New Zealand I believe I use trekking tent, (I'm going to do that they are not all cabins, and those that would prefer to sleep outdoors) if in between (we are three people that sleep in the car again for better savings than any camping or that guesthouse.)

In Nepal there is no need whatsoever for tent? There are cabins, guesthouses arranged sequentially? I'm going to do only "common" tracks (Annapurna, perhaps around one BC, frozen lakes).

Easyman, I read all your comments and wisdom from them. What's weird to me, correct me where I'm wrong, is that Perino declare the tent three seasons, waterproof (again, no precise statistic) and you say that is not suitable for all kinds of reasons (rain, wind, ventilation etc). I am pleased to learn from your experience and in my experience (which probably ends the night cold and wet), but I don't see how it could be that their statement does not correspond to reality.

What is the definition of "dictionary definition" to "three seasons"?
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#14 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:38:10 PM(UTC)
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3 it means seasons spring, summer, autumn, winter, that means opacity for overlay rain water.

.. Four seasons is to harsh conditions snow storms. 5 seasons it to extreme weather such as the Arctic or mountain climbers, expeditions and research more.

Three seasons is what takes the hiker to trekking and in the Israel National Trail (INT) amid strong rains and winds in mediocrity, Perino has a class called LIGHT LINE and it was created for the hardy and backpack travelers and 3 average seasons for improvement like aluminum rods Alexandra easier and more powerful than more achjulim much more than network and setup easier, 2 entrances and porches and weight equipment.

The heavier blue and some even have a piburglas warrior in which poles.

On the other hand there is the class is 3 SEASON that the blue tents designed for families, festivals, Jeep trips, traveling youth festivals, Perino's company and swallow their European market and in Europe it is raining all the time even in summer I wish us, therefore they blue 3 seasons to the Germans and Italians oils and noisy drunken Brits and the Europeans including the beautiful Scandinavian can make camping or Rock Festival in the rain These are not intended for the long-time ...

... Similar to blue tents that sell in the supermarket only if rain cover and some improvements. After all this with Perino. ... Their equipment. ...

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#15 Posted : Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:22:31 PM(UTC)
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Finally easyman can read what you write.
That much better!
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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 4:31:21 PM(UTC)
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Hello again.

I "lock" on the ferrino chaos and almost bought it, but suddenly the chance to peek at a good price on denali salewa iv.

It's clear to me that asalva would be respect while kg, but is large and spacious and pampering I would love to make.

Anyone have any experience with this tent. In terms of reliability and durability?
Recommend or stay with their initial decision about PERINO?
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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:42:26 PM(UTC)
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The two Italian companies if a supplies most professional shaprino

And a selection of their products.

Although Salva's roomier, but quite a few pounds. Feel it on my back.

The spacious enough, Perino 2 + gear covers, terraces of rain is good to strong rains from experience

The difference for kilos difference in higher rates sometimes more than 100 $. Weight = money

I have a tent for three of our village of the LITLINE like the CHAOS weighs 2.8 I can't carry him on their backs.

Uses for cycling around the world because of the bike coming into the tent if you're breaking the front wheel. Excellent tent stood in storms and winds. Easy setup of small folding, rain cover.

Hiking I take tarptant weighs 1.6 1.2. If adjustable floor & liner and accessories.

It is very difficult to carry a tent of over 2 pounds Max 1.4. Consider the weight of the backpack, clothing ה"שקש. And more ...

It is very difficult to carry more than 15 pounds maximum and water and food so every ounce and every pound counts.

Travel smart travel easy much fun anymore. Even if it costs a little more. Better to invest in a quality, lightweight gear, holding a lot of trips and expeditions. Recommend Perino even if it costs a little more worth it.

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#18 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2012 1:10:44 AM(UTC)
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Hello isiman (name in Israel, if possible?)

It's really not a consideration. The price at which buy one of the tent is very similar.

We will be three, with a large (5/90-100), and I prefer the added expense of the weight (the exact same Bill tent between two or three backs (??) it is much less messy).

I prefer more pounds on his back and comfort during the night.

The question is
1. how to be a crowded and Perino to our three terraces
2. is technically (structure, sealing, durability, compliance requirements from the beginning of the thread) salwe worth Perino, better, or worse.

Again, there is no economic consideration. While I don't pretend to be ultra Lite traveler or close to it, but I buy quality equipment as by acquiring and investing that money in order not to be disappointed.
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#19 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2012 4:38:56 AM(UTC)
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If there are three in the tent and the weight evenly you about Perino's tent 3 like mine

Excellent tent lightweight tent for weight loss do not find that the two inputs front and back

Unlike the tent if 2 it has the advantage that if he doesn't want to take precautions steps.

Excellent rain cover camped in rain storms and winds if two developers to fan.

Easy setup if no ons threading and fold.

Huge front porch where I also have large backyard bike less

If hot days 80% tent fan network.

Pockets and hanger for a tent inside including loft and hang.  Get links.

Done if this tent bike tour the world and two models have disappointed Aerial Ferrino tent 3 p model differs from mine, but from the same series his advantage but the fan network whose side ports and easier for 200 g. I have this 3-man tent FERRINO LATITUDE .

His advantage larger balconies, entrances and forth no sides in this tent 3

Coverage of two amazing models also have excellent tensile ropes cover. The model has a lot more stores.

Much better, lighter, stronger aluminum poles and ground water with enamel bath and waterproof. From asalva. If you 3 weight even one divisible by 2 to get the tent network. One of the rods, each overlay, that's great. You have a huge terrace to backpacks and smaller rear terrace on my model, I slept in a tent in the rain, snow, fun, wind and temperature conditions without covering one night a great tent delight

The second model has two balconies side "equal 40.  Three tent weighing two double tent models. I think Perino's is much better than asalva on several levels.  All tent I recommend lightweight ground cloth preferably plastic and tiibk can repair kit in our village are given if assessment. To add beading, rubber 10 m and Scotch tape.

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#20 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2012 5:48:42 AM(UTC)
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Thanks isiman, I guess I really do like your tent (did Perino's catalog is listed as not found prodigi model name named latitude)?
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