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#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:16:29 PM(UTC)
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Hello
We need for 10 days. So far alone-not met although bilist. Nature to ourselves ....;)
We use red design manual.
The guide was published in 2009, we realized there were changes to the route on Mount Carmel in the wake of the fire in 2010.
What are the changes?
Is the Lake, 6 miles after Arad still route for
Is there water as published in a book?

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:34:40 PM(UTC)
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The Lake has never been along the path. Need to get faster surrounded by to get there. You can water in Hirbat glaucoma in public services there. Faucets are working without problems. It is on the path.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:11:06 AM(UTC)
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What Chris says. Glaucoma parking lot on the water at the time. All changes to the route around the temporary detour to the fire.

Bypass: oak Valley, Beit Oren, Nahal Oren and pine away as usual.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:10:25 AM(UTC)
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Thank you! Help very much!
Where would you recommend to sleep around 5-8 miles from Arad?
I think I might stray a little trail to sleep there, unless I get of you another idea didn't got him!

God bless you and God bless!
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#5 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:30:48 AM(UTC)
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The area is a nature reserve and not allowed to stay not in the Lake and in the parking lots are glaucoma day. You can stay in pine garage (garage a finger) 10.7 km of the description.

At home there's pine trail angels.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:21:52 PM(UTC)
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I did check the line and called forest nature reserve parks – both referred me to the garden for the Carmel National Park about March in the Israel National Trail (INT) in Carmel:
They said that after last winter collapsed trees on Earth and rocks dragged and cannot move at all between lap to open stream Nahal Oren. Most of the closed area and the least since open does not allow continuous marching on Israel.
She noted that we need to get in Haifa until opened Nahal Oren can there be night!
Their number: 04-8228983!!

Urgent help needed!!!
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#7 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:27:03 PM(UTC)
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Bullshit. All you have to do is walk on a dirt path that corresponds to the lap stream and takes you all the way down to the Valley.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:56:25 PM(UTC)
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Nothing to add on the words. The route as ALE pointed out to Oak Valley, the alternate route.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:01:00 PM(UTC)
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Hello

We did exactly this route (Arad-bosom-oak-pine Creek Valley until developed Oren) last Friday. It's tedious (5 hours) but completely passes (although the part where trees fell on the trail a few hundred metres after the blue Pine Creek trail becomes pedestrian path until the final descent to the Creek — but carefully you can bypass the trees).

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#10 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:18:46 PM(UTC)
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You can stay in the lake or glaucoma in accordance with early Park Manager.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:22:22 PM(UTC)
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Is Director of the Carmel Park is part of the Hart?
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:23:50 PM(UTC)
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D. c.

The point is not whether the route passes. But if you do damage the environment because of the unstable ground. If asked not to go in there so there's a reason. And the path is simple and safe also going and trying to recover vegetation.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:43:43 PM(UTC)
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Imtl,

Thanks for the comment.

If the nature preservation society marked it as a bypass for it probably know her life. Unless I missed something here.

Did the course marked with society for protection of nature as a detour for the close in enclosed.

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#14 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 12:24:39 AM(UTC)
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Missed something here. Still on the bypass and lap Creek allowed in the Creek itself but to go on the dirt road parallel to the stream. And this section. Hope now it's understandable.
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#15 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 1:05:56 AM(UTC)
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The Park Headquarters is part of, Rasht

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#16 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 2:00:45 PM(UTC)
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Hello imetl,

Before the override has a short walk in the bosom of that is not marked as I need to get around, so I don't understand your comment.

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#17 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 3:23:03 PM(UTC)
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The dirt road crosses the Creek several times fold. In excerpts of a bottom can go. What I don't understand the comment. People need to keep a bit more there and understand not to go in because it's Bors.
Very simple.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:51:04 PM(UTC)
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The anomaly begins oak Valley North for green built toward Beit Oren, cross it and plug it in for Red Pine Creek itself until the ridge.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:38:03 PM(UTC)
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What Ma said that's exactly what we did. Before departure there is a short walk from the river.

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 3:26:50 AM(UTC)
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It's relevant, who eventually decided to skip the question-we took a taxi from Arad to finger parking (80 weight).
Complete the section a few years as a shithyro-motion and doesn't feel like home.

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