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#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:04:31 PM(UTC)
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Official update from Israel nature and Parks Authority: sections of alternative route through oak and Pine Creek Valley are closed to visitors. Real-time updates: 04-9841750/2.

While the route close to Haifa a developed by taxi or pine. Inspectors may fine hikers who go without a permit.

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#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:15:01 PM(UTC)
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Was there a week ago, with no signage, marking it, moreover, the markings look new and well maintained.

If the Authority decided to close the area (resolution legitimate), they need to update the public on the ground or it just pointless.

Most people don't call for permission before they go out for a walk.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:28:19 PM(UTC)
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I'm certainly on your side about the ground realities. Got a reference company for the protection of nature and after updating with Hart brought up their words.

Talk to them in order to be a suitable signage or cancel.

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#24 Posted : Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:55:42 PM(UTC)
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I just spoke with Nathan of the Park, the man responsible for the trails.

For him there is no connection between Ridge and isfiya no Exchange route for Israel. Should be no signage walk in the Israel National Trail (INT) already Wadi entrance on Highway 672 lap in isfiya.

To him who should skip lane or find Exchange path North through Nahal kelah and waves until tirat hacarmel. Clear to anyone that this route is not feasible and that people who depart this week to close Dan and must find a solution to, couldn't some of Israel for simply "disappear". No budget for repair and improvement and therefore not in sight when the problem is resolved.

The man works and I think no רשט"ג would prefer that nobody goes in Carmel. The problem is the man determines what happens.

Clearly with the trails I doubt bchoachotiham to find a solution.

Gotta start רשט"ג to the letters. There can't be a path in Israel.

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#25 Posted : Thursday, October 4, 2012 2:39:23 PM(UTC)
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Indeed, the alternative route is closed to hikers, but parts of his route so it is impossible to move continuously until the garage you've developed. Guidance of the nature parks:

To travel by car from Arad to pine or parking in the opposite direction and continue. The reason: surfing of soil as a result of last winter the corporeal

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#26 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2012 4:03:58 PM(UTC)
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For d. c.

I make my attention and everybody here click:
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Because no bypass route. Everything is closed.
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#27 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2012 4:27:20 PM(UTC)
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I think deer sign is also a brand new look. In recent days not only Ma and I have talked with Hart about the closure. I'm sure they got the message and got in.

It can't be a demon. Didn't see that sign. Your proposal to override is very good and I hope Hart approve it.

I have a problem: I can't remember what the fire line between forest and Pine Creek in Northwest Bank. Is the entrance to Nahal Oren after the Memorial through burnt surface? In my opinion Yes. But correct me.

French map.

Map.

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#28 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2012 4:37:17 PM(UTC)
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Hey, yankele

The remote control doesn't seem to be a few days old because it had some signs when you look closely. But okay. I accept your comment and fixed the message accordingly.

About your question. Unfortunately, once the red trail arrives and meets the driveway to the House so the black pine short and beautiful used in burn area and awful. Also highlighting hardly exist. Just terrible. Yes unfortunately need to go a few minutes down the road. And of course I wish for greater than.
This walk in the truth of 2-3 minutes.
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#29 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:01:45 PM(UTC)
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The problem is not that the camping site but because of burned trees that fall or are dangerous to them, Rasht and since jobs in the field of insurance problem have perhaps fallen tree on bilist. It is clear to everyone that no damaging for shbilist.
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#30 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2012 10:24:36 PM(UTC)
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It is not known. Eg I Wadi stand and suddenly falling tree or rock. Can I sue the Israel nature and Parks Authority who will compensate me for damage?

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#31 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2012 11:35:54 PM(UTC)
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Therefore in my opinion!!
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#32 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2012 11:55:35 PM(UTC)
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I sincerely hope (and think) that

Besides it sounds surreal, resemble to the American approach just increase the effects and the quota/territory to go for not wanting to take responsibility.
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#33 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:20:55 AM(UTC)
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I never said I didn't see the sign. Said by the intentional detour left of the society for the protection of nature! And we did a story and guidance verbatim (oak Valley Creek outdoors until then us near ancient quarries, and continued along Pine Creek), and the society for the protection of nature provides a workaround that is enclosed by the nature and Parks Authority-unfortunately not know right hand left hand.
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#34 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:25:32 AM(UTC)
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Another point about the proposed bypass by yankele: also at the beginning of the blue trail that descends along Pine Creek (which begins as a dirt road and turns towards the path down to the Pine Creek) appears exactly the same coat forbid movement because of the fire, and more-the blue is the worst situation in terms of paths passed each bypass (fallen trees on the trail and not yet removed them)!
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#35 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 3:14:26 AM(UTC)
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Forgive me, but if you've seen the signs that what should you not all purpose otherwise.
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#36 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 4:02:22 AM(UTC)
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D. c.

Israel nature and Parks Authority is sovereign. The alternate route approved by about a year and a half ago. And that's the route posted on the website of the society for the protection of nature.

Right Eyal signposting in area's. Anyway thanks for the information, it is very important to people.

Have fun along the way.

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#37 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 3:18:58 PM(UTC)
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More than a year, the society for the protection of nature could publish what she wants, the traveler to check against רט"ג mentioned here. everyone not to go on bypass? Now that Brett has turned to signs and you can really get a report just wanted to limit authority themselves so decided that the trails are running they did any action to enforce this. Anyway just a storm in a cup of tea now really have to go on at least until the detour signs will disappear again.
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#38 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 2:21:10 PM(UTC)
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With regard to the signs in the bosom of the new signage as of July 2012 was not remote instead. They also decided to close this part of the river is their reasons regardless of the route of the proposed exchange of oak Valley.
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#39 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 4:15:19 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = number of the desert] for over a year, the society for the protection of nature could publish what she wants, the traveler to check against רט"ג.

How come everybody here they go the override? Now that Brett has turned to signs and you can really get a report just wanted to limit authority themselves so

Decided that the trails are running they did any action to enforce this. Anyway just a storm in a cup of tea now really have to go on bypass,

At least until signs will disappear again.

The average traveler's check with the society for the protection of nature (she marks the trails) on the trails. The average traveler does not know the distribution of powers.

No wonder people are confused and clear places. The discussion here and made signs.

There was no signage at the end of last spring. And Zemi update in July there was no signage. Photography Chris brought it obviously a new remote

Maybe not, but two weeks. In summer there are almost no hikers on the trail so the issue didn't come up. And here is the first traveler instead raised the issue.

Picture of the situation on the ground: in the bosom of a waterfall which was now there's iron railing and a real problem down stream lap, went there quite a few people.

Two places remain troubled passage: near iishach caves and Ridge Vineyards. There also needs to build railings. Three days ' work. What I need is the money.

I think what you wrote at the beginning of the debate available: write to the nature and Parks Authority, in order that assigned the money to build a railing near iishach if

Want too Ridge Vineyards. There you can also get on the buttocks. Enough funds were allocated for this purpose.

Reindeer: it's the sign at the entrance to Nahal bosom in print?

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#40 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 4:28:43 PM(UTC)
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