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yairbunzel  
#1 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:01:51 PM(UTC)
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Congratulations arrived the day before to Eilat!
We went (16 and 50 years old) to the North in July and made the part until this alvim. To Arad continued almost continuously ("discussion for the fall season for Israel.)
The strongest part of me was Arad-Eilat also because the strength of the desert and also because logistical complexity and physical space.
The curtain really is too small to hold all the sensations and sights.
Who had reached the end of the trail.
Here are some conclusions/insights (I apologize if this is a bit too long for short):
An important issue that dosex a discussion I mentioned was the heat. In the South it of course. We are faced with Brown:
1. walk from first light until 10-11 and rest up to 2-3 and continue walking until last light. It must keep steep walk to reach tonight's caching (assuming no carrying water for more than one day).
2. when walking, or other sticks and strings that allow to hang mosquito also lack the necessary tree, allowing a well-deserved rest for 3-4 hours each day. Always find a tree or cliff facing north (preferably thick because more "shadow"). The only case in which "disappeared" the promised tree and guide map (Zin-River parking lot for ein akev) in both shadow and rods mattresses in shallow channel. This experience too.
The landfills: in my opinion the most problematic issue all SJ project.
The landfills: in my opinion the most problematic issue all SJ project.
We are set on 15 points! Each point 15 litres for two people.
In retrospect I'd planted. The principle of "the more the merrier" takes up here twice.
A. more burial points allows to take water to half a day. (E.g. on the small crater Auron can also irkeam eye and set to go with 3 pounds less on your back and other places).
In more water at any point allows you to Cook (bottle), washing dishes (a bottle), socks, wash underwear and t-shirt (bottle and save the weight change of clothes that carry on the back) and, good heavens, a bottle a day walk (a bottle up to two). Together with 8 bottles for drinking other people arrived to 12 bottles per couple!
The empty bottles mash and carrying up the first option to get rid of them with respect (in a meeting, etc-it's a topic in and of itself that requires a separate discussion).
Some aatmanot not found when we got to the place!
3-hole landfills and covered. (Tamar metzad mahmal is a small crater in the parking lot River farm) of food stolen (if sometimes had set only). Some of those bottles that were broken and were left exposed on the ground.
(Traveling Ltd.).
This can be critical.
We lucky that it was on the case and ג'יפאים huts in the area. Until the issue handled (e.g. initiative that Bedouin to sell water and food in the area of Arad?), I suggest not to plant water and certainly not the problematic food in the area.
ש"בדואים argument don't steal only provides food that landfill that opened and left exposed on the ground a couple of weeks may result in not found some or all those bottles.
It happened to us.
So I need to find another solution. Someone to meet you or hitchhiking to settlement or a gas station near landfills or in "warranty".

For Angel:. We thank the following for the angels and everyone was huge help and encouragement-just grateful:
Hadassah school, Kibbutz kramim, amsha, Elijah Horn,
Midreshet SDE Boker Kibbutz Neot Smadar Kibbutz and helped us a lot after the burial (water + food!).
Many good people halfway threw a good word, offered coffee/food/water/lift etc, physical energy and spiritual rest, proving that not only our Earth for her beauty but also her people love people in shbilia.
And now there's nothing left but to get back to normal (work, family, friends, school) and take all the good things we have experienced and that iilloo us wherever we go.
Thank you to all who advise and contributed his know-how and experience and helped us to get to the end of the journey.
So don't forget: we have a great country stroll.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:39:38 PM(UTC)
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Respect and Koach! A pleasure to read. Sorry for missing your tree. He swept in flood and is probably at the mount Zin:

The problem of the disappearing atmanot known exactly where specified. But even South junction area tsihor. The Bedouins indeed stealing just food. If you already have stolen food don't bother

Cover. Supervisors or fellow travellers take bottles. You should paste a note with estimated date and contact details.

Some landfills in charge with responsibility in the problem areas. Berger lives doing this and Amir gdenor.

Where your water area Neot Smadar stole + food

How you cope with water in the parking lot, Ms. Conn? Did you put in there?

I really hope that the problem of water in the desert have reversed in a timely manner in the form includes all level partners organisations: Rath, the company sources, Jewish regional councils, etc.

Thank you, you did it like big!!!

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#3 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:54:29 PM(UTC)
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Well done!

And as this article, is that most Bedouins don't steal (Incidentally, the Bedouin stiiathi already here and there, I don't want to denigrate such slurs) doesn't mean that others won't erase. For me the worst scenario is the touch of yearly trip 11 12 where it atmanti.

To minimize the danger, I always recommend separate landfills can atmanot and even slightly. If you do not set good food buried, animals can get to it, but it is unlikely they will be water and water, after all, more critical.

In addition, the shadow-thing is a good idea to put on the ground a mat or manifold, that should isolate the body from the ground. Yagil 41202.8733912037
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#4 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:17:48 AM(UTC)
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Check out their mattresses, I think it's a good solution, need to sleep and rest comfortably.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:47:25 AM(UTC)
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Well done!

I wouldn't go for the hottest months of the year.

But it seems some people heat bothers them less.

yairbunzel  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:46:38 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the props and blessings.

About the heat-you feel me to heat and also flexible with me. .. Who can go several weeks later. And whoever goes to the world that something doesn't exactly match the ideal model.

About landfills: this food was stolen because no transducer metzad mahmal listened to warnings. So I got in Dimona. To separate the food from the water doesn't solve anything and only water plant resolves nothing because thieves open the huge anyway. They don't know it's just water!
Then your bottles lying around and disappear. It was only with water in the Creek farm. Some of those bottles. As this all sucks huge water and food in the garage at night tsihor. This allegedly not Bedouin. Perhaps travellers looking for burying someone else planted for them? Metal thieves might expand the expertise? (See them at night entering the shizafon training). I have no idea.
Just always find a solution. Any initiative and good people around and everything works out.
I rigged a stream instead of aggregate Ms. Conn. A single huge weight 300 had a little expensive. I'm surprised you let cancels night parking grottoes Vishnu instead cone Hill night garage. (The spring of the saronim sort of caching).
I don't want to hurt anybody's livelihood. The price was high because maybe (?) and found creative solutions. I suggest whoever makes the point that landfills to check only for 4 x 4. In the water I had no real problems. Regarding the food were falling but we solved everything.
BTW, good water is about 2 km south of shizafon junction. Of sources that palm plantation in a drink.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:01:40 PM(UTC)
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Not always good hose water safe
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:39:15 PM(UTC)
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Tsihor also became a focus for thieves don't you first reported. It's the easy accessibility. Need to plant far away from the night.

300 per one caching it's cheap and inexpensive. Someone needs to drive a jeep there. Who did you?  If you make a the huge price drops landfills but single this caching.

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:11:08 PM(UTC)
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It's really sad that such a rate would not be safe in any landfill.
So maybe it is better not to dig a hole to not open it? Ltd. quick learners identify a bottle and Pierce it. Actually it has a solution?
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:51:46 PM(UTC)
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The solution is at the level of the Rath, Keck, regional councils, Mekorot, the Health Ministry, and another body that has powers. And it's not just that breached by atmanot Ltd., or thieves?

But also the bottles remain on the ground and, rightly, the inspectors on the ground. Maybe in five years would be a good solution.

One of the ideas I had license to go un. The licence will be valid for six months. License cost includes water supply on the way. The problem with this is that the Ministry of health

Requires a strict standard for water containers to remote places, otherwise it will cause infection in travellers.  And the tank will have to stand against "attacks" on the bad guys.

A known problem and is painful. If it encourages you so there was no anniversary program.

Don't know how to solve the problem of the tax break. Someone

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:11:16 PM(UTC)
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I heard it is possible after the pit cover spray him with Mace, keeps Ltd. (including effective and how long I tried.)
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:20:02 PM(UTC)
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Tear gas is poisonous. Not a good idea.

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#13 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2012 2:06:48 PM(UTC)
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Maybe someone knows what the cumulative height up (and down) during the trail?
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#14 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2012 4:39:55 PM(UTC)
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Instead of tear gas — told me a farmer from Kibbutz yiftah, the problem of damage to processing departments made rabbits and other rodents. They collected a vast amount of arivat feces from Ramat Gan and Yes, tell spread on the edge of the area. It worked great.

Admit it. It keeps unwanted too. Not need to bathe.

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#15 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2012 4:46:59 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yairbunzel] Maybe someone knows what the cumulative height up (and down) during the trail?
from North to South: approximately 19-20 km and 200 m ups add declines. 41224.1079861111 yankale17
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#16 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2012 5:01:34 PM(UTC)
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Thanks a lot!
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#17 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2012 2:32:37 AM(UTC)
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To set food and denying access of animals don't need to spray anything, just put some stones at huge-animal can't lift a stone only to humans. And the latter because spraying doesn't help.
I was glad to read about your attention. the empty bottles. Talked about this forum in the past but need to refine new. it became the for. The empty bottles. I see sometimes in campgrounds bottles arranged in the beautiful signs. It doesn't help to put them around nobody collects them and they scatter in the wind along the channels and dirty.
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#18 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:39:11 AM(UTC)
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The huge stone wave identifies the location for the thieves.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, November 17, 2012 2:01:12 PM(UTC)
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Two weeks ago, finished the southern half of Israel-ahuzam (Rainbow).

20 days, just me by myself.

I had seven landfills, including water and food. All, without exception, were found.

There were sections that carried water for two days, it really doesn't matter. Actually take water for a day and a half after the second day comes to water source.

Still digesting the intensity of experience.

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#20 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 4:25:44 PM(UTC)
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Shine for you. I do with Milky Bar Mitzvah. Currently in North but we jumped to Hanukkah for a few days and looking for caches. Can I call you? I'm at 054-446-9968.

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