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עופר999  
#121 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:01:58 AM(UTC)
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True provided that just changing the dates isעופר99941492.3437731481
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#122 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:19:14 AM(UTC)
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Amnon,
The truth is that I generally prefer not to pre-order. Note that I'm going in the off-season and I travel alone and not really risk experience and that makes me feel (more) off (I think I even like to go camping, or at least to try it).

This year my Trek "planned" () because I'm limited in time and less sleep options relative to what previous treks, horglati I plan to drink ready for pre-order. And loss of 10 euros per night, it's not critical consideration for me (which I think is pretty minimal in expenses).
On the other hand, the issue of the remittance is really annoying in my opinion. unnecessary tampering and an additional fee to the Bank (again-not critical in me financially but ... I don't want to contribute to the Bank, I him enough ). So I'm going to order a few days before, and credit card payment of the full amount.
Anyway, I'm not too busy. In perfectly answered because questions of Ofer. At the moment I decided to go the whole Trek running quite flow. To pre-order, pre-order, buy bus tickets before or not, and ariant take etc. It's really too small. I'm too busy fantasizing about crossing the bolderim field in the section between Jung and hut hut and ntosa a look at JM Blanc chalet and its Lake. 41492.3500810185 io_travel
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#123 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:25:28 AM(UTC)
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Indeed, many many thanks for helping amber.

The bureaucracy is annoying but the views look amazing.

I just wanted to know more my walk from ESPOT to:

JOSEP M. BLANC

MALLAFRE

AMITGES

SABORADO

As Greece arriving by bus to ESPOT around 1300, and knowing where to go that day.

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#124 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:35:40 AM(UTC)
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No problem it's joy and Ofer heart
Those are good questions--a lot of people asking them, since I'm here in the Forum I try to note things too me slightly less interesting for the greater good.

Personally, I plan to spend the first night in Amitges. I get to espot, "throw" a small backpack with some additional equipment at espot (I plan to stay at the end of the Trek) and go to the cabin (after I in Info). If you feel you don't have time (or for some other reason, weather etc), I take the Jeep to the Lake and jumped with get him to foot cabin that should shorten a large part (though I don't think I need).
Read HarmonicWave's post-walk from espot to JM Blanc.
To this more flexible Amitges stated that can ride the track (or even entirely) so to me this is a preferred option for Sunday. Io_travel 41492.3945833333
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#125 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 12:20:41 PM(UTC)
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Walking times from espot without stopping I know (I went, I asked):
Saborado-about 6 hours.
Amitges-3.5 hours
2 hours mallafre
I did not go:
Josep maria blanc-3 hours

With Greece the clock go to josep maria versus to amitges.

Enjoy!

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#126 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 12:31:46 PM(UTC)
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Thank you

What a beautiful picture!

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#127 Posted : Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:25:57 AM(UTC)
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Hey

Makes sense that the average temperature there is 5°.

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#128 Posted : Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:35:01 AM(UTC)
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Indeed "cool" enough for now.
Temperature at 2400 m 8.8 אמיטג'ס
Ahhh ... Bring a sweater!
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#129 Posted : Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:44:43 PM(UTC)
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Duffle coat
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#130 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2013 11:31:30 PM(UTC)
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Hi, a few questions:

1. bears in prenias? (Been a disturbing picture of a trail).
2. Chariots of fire is a circular route, which Greece worth going.

Thank you.
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#131 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:02:32 AM(UTC)
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According to the Internet does have bears in the Pyrenees but I don't think it's a problem in igoastorts.
About Greece going, I think if you start in espot you then go against Greece, because then you save to the most beautiful part.
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#132 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:23:21 AM(UTC)
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Fren21,
Indeed, the track "cyclical" there: schematic drawing of the road route
Both ways are possible, I-anthem plans to go against Greece.
Of course you don't have to complete a full rotation-no. exit point.

And bears. Heard of bear-human encounters in igoastorts but I turn to the question of reserve personnel report Anyway-I don't think there's cause for alarm! 41496.3503935185 io_travel
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#133 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:27:21 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = fren21] Hi, a few questions:

1. bears in prenias? (Been a disturbing picture of a trail).

Thank you.

The last Pyrenees bear hunt in 1991 and the local population exterminated.

In recent years some effort to renew the population with bears brought from Slovenia.

Recoverable nature becomes a desolate area and no chance to see bears in mtoiilot reserves of Aguas torts or Ordesa.

Read more a mirror here.

The Aqaba was but she didn't list of Deb.

BTW, I also met with deb in the Pyrenees in the reservation. But deadened us thick fence

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#134 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:21:26 PM(UTC)
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This bear in arties, Jubilee?
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#135 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:42:34 PM(UTC)
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Unfortunately it doesn't say where the photo was taken.

But if this first settlement arties accessed as one of Refugio Valley rstanka ARN towards the town of Biella, and the same bear.

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#136 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:36:22 PM(UTC)
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Yes, it is
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#137 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:55:48 PM(UTC)
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CARROS DE FOC

Hi, I'm going to do the trek with getting there by public transport. Initial planning was to get to espot from Barcelona and then hitchhiked to Torla.

I looked at the map and had an idea to start from Hospital de Vielha
Go to Restanca for GR11 and begin the Trek. There is a bus from Barcelona to Hospital de Vielha

According to the map is about 10 km without, so roughly equal to the distance from the road to espot, same time size +/-

The problem is that if you buy the espot morning trekking maps, this is not possible we need to print maps at home plus check the Decathlon in LLEIDA that stop by there on the way.

What do you think about the idea? It has very real advantage but perhaps bring us hitchhiked to Torla preferences later in the end of the runway. Thank you!


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#138 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 12:24:05 AM(UTC)
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This area is highly recommended to go for the HRP.
Turn right (South East) rashw Lake (Lac de Rius), going across the Lake the second map (Lac de Rius Tort), l. Colbada de Lac de Mar and down to Restanca.

But check your bus to the Espitau (Hospital) de Vihella-its just I doubt the bus stop number.
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#139 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 12:37:43 AM(UTC)
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Checking for the buses.

Departs at 11:45 from Barcelona comes athopa 19:30 with two stoppage in LLEIDA (hityour place where gas balloon).

I'm just deciding if rough (probably not), whether it is marked clearly and primarily concern Micro's map.

I'm deciding which is better. Start espot or (like if it will promote us to somehow turla preferences later).

You mean like this?

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#140 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 1:12:00 AM(UTC)
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Basically, that's not a bad idea. I think it would be easier to start catching away rides to Torla.

You may have to replace a lift on the N-230 and of-N260 but it certainly seems more likely than from ESPOST.

The track on the G11 definitely not significantly harder than the rest of the route (about me section offered at HRP I'm not sure).

Regarding the map, try to find out if you can buy at Vihella
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