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fren21  
#141 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 1:59:13 AM(UTC)
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We don't have a problem replacing the hitchhiking, even jump to AINSA I called pretty or something to eat.

We're not going to drop vilaa before a Hospital bus stop de Vielha. I just hope there is in the Decathlon and llida print topgrapot maps from the Internet, I found a few good ones in my opinion.

Excellent, thanks!
ylivny  
#142 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 2:46:15 AM(UTC)
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Hello fren21

Don't want to aakir your spirit but I really didn't notice it is almost 10 km without her.

According to the map that you attached the road meets for 1600 m altitude environments and then rises to a height of almost 2500 m before he descends to Restanca (which is at a height of 2000 m).
If you choose the option so the HRP's highest point is 2600 m.

I mean, this is an increase of 900-1000 m f ' and then start declining from 500-600 m.

Not that this section but I reckon is considerably harder than the section between Lake and Espot certainly takes more time. If he mentions something the mbolder section between Ventosa to so that Llong could be a long day and orientation can be. I do not recommend to go without an official map have אא"כ reliable information that clearly marked trail.

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#143 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 2:57:02 AM(UTC)
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I didn't go too the section, but the GR11 route should be comfortable. Maybe you could enlighten me about the quality for (?) of the HRP.
However, you are absolutely right about the difference of heights-don't walk plateau.
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#144 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 3:57:06 AM(UTC)
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Right, right, I got confused about something.

However, after the rise of the 900 m walking kind of plateau, spokesman of track 7 miles until carros de foc

In terms of getting there is no difference, the espot and vilaa bus leaves the airport at 1145 and arrived in 1930 in espot with 80 minutes stopping at llida and vilaa with hours (then have priority to vilaa)

I just think it's best to start from the point's conveniences to Torla, according to circle and return preferences later again. But I wanted to consult.

Thanks:-)


Http://www.wandermap.net/en/route/1948321-pyrenaenlangsquerung-22-tag-restanca-estany refugi-del mar-hospital-de-vielha,/z14/42.6259, 0.80959, opencyclemap # 41498.452662037 Amnonl
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#145 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 8:52:05 AM(UTC)
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It's the route I was going on the bus, don't confuse Hospital de Vhiella, Vihella for these two different places pretty long tunnel separates them
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#146 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 11:14:49 AM(UTC)
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I was part of the HRP highlighted in map 3 uploads.
The route is not easy at all with her, almost vertical climb from lac de mar towards lac de rius tort (planning direction).
It was the most beautiful part of every track on agoastorts and I think it's a shame to miss it walking on the GR11.
The part of the lac de rius to rstanka of the GR11 light and marked. If you're going to get from espitau de vielha need to rise to 800-900 metres.
In short – this is a two day alternatives walk when the route of the GR11 HRP hard but meaningful what beautiful. I was coming to the lac de rius and decides which path to take (the HRP).

About maps-we were looking for in the Decathlon in Barcelona were not. Send an email to lleida and check individual. Anyway I have the relevant route map and you're welcome to borrow it.

Have fun
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fren21  
#147 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 2:36:41 PM(UTC)
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Why HRP's route? Altitude in increments below seem almost level on a mountain with a very small increase, that the main problem is the increase of 900 meters.

Considering that my desire is to ease hitching at the end of the trip to Torla, tastes it, or it's really almost a whole day walk Because we don't have time for this, but if this is really a very nice track, is another bonus.


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#148 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 2:44:22 PM(UTC)
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Pay attention to the part that means dawn — is pretty steep (I think that the bulge in the right third of the altitude profile).
Furthermore, the difficulty can arise not only from the differences of heights but also for quality.

This beautiful area and not boring. Let also going to return it at the end of the round? Then you can range to make the section of the GR and the HRP.

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ylivny  
#149 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 4:40:40 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = fren21] in terms of getting there is no difference, the espot and vilaa bus leaves the airport at 1145 and arrived in 1930 in espot with 80 minutes stopping at llida and vilaa with hours (then have priority to vilaa)


I'm not sure I understand.
Are you going to take the bus at 11:45 am at the airport, stop at Lleida to 2 then go to Hospital de Vhiella evening.

What are your plans for the next day (walking towards Restanca in GR11 or HRP?

Jonathan


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#150 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 5:11:04 PM(UTC)
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If they start early, they can go on to ventosa (or even kolomers).

If they leave it late to stay on Restanca
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#151 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 5:25:01 PM(UTC)
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Hey

There is a recommended accommodation in ESPOT-

Can take a bus to LLEIDA and then switch to LA GUINGUETA-

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fren21  
#152 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 5:34:52 PM(UTC)
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Jonathan.

Our goal is slammed carros de foc

So to get to the Hospital de Vhiella stuffed the next day in the morning to go to Restanca and there is a circular route of carros de foc. Return to Restanca to go back to Hospital de Vhiella and then hitchhiked to Torla.

The dilemma was whether to start the track from espot (f, to arrive at tachbch) and then hitchhiked to Torla-current path seems more comfortable.
Although I'm still undecided.
shaharellert  
#153 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 7:27:05 PM(UTC)
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The part of espitau de vielha to lac de rius do anyway if you decide to start from there. The Lake has two options to rstanka.
1. Noah and light of the GR11
2. slightly more "challenging" (not too hard but harder and longer than the first alternative) through the HRP. We walked him in the opposite direction so you get off the vertical part I was talking about.

I recommend 2, although lavnati you planning go back to vielha espitau de so you can walk in both options.

BTW, I really wouldn't count on rides away to Ordesa, Torla.
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#154 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 9:01:51 PM(UTC)
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About the quality for the HRP (sorry I didn't noticed this morning, not paying attention to questions (:)-it's not just deer but as I recall (though, 6 years) for reasonable (some excerpts from bolderim near lac de rius tort).

The thing is getting climbing long Lac de Rius, both options have an additional climbing during the day, the HRP to Lac de Colhada de Mar (200 m), but the additional declines have (on the GR have significant and resulted in rising to rstanka) and the apas that are what makes the difference between the two tracks (and length of course)

However, it is, so if you intend to save time-go on the GR11.

You see there's a bus that stops? Espitau de Vihela is basically a cabin (in 2007 was around a construction site excavation/widening the tunnel to Aran Valley)-road there is a freeway, and as I recall (correct me if I'm wrong, Dawn) there is too much causes the bus to stop.

By the way, another option (also day walk) is the Valley of Aran to kolomers (from Salardu) or rstanka (Arties).

Barcelona maps I bought in the bookstore .
fren21  
#155 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 10:00:40 PM(UTC)
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When you say don't build rides herd on it or don't stop?
That we build on it.

There is a bus from LLEIDA to Vielha vilaa and stops in the T?nel (s) of the map is exactly Espitau de Vihela

Lleida-Vielha T?nel (s)-5:10 pm
Lleida Vielha T?nel (s) 2 h 10:38 pm 28min yes € 22.74 € 12.63 normal show itinerary Lleida-Vielha T?nel (s)-5:10 pm (new window will open)
Http://www.alsa.es/portal/alsa/jsp/map.jsp?lat=0.74390814&long=0.01335455&lineaId=2206&expedicionId=3&type=rad&companyId=720&cityId=8838
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#156 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 11:05:02 PM(UTC)
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Hey!

I have two questions:
1. What is the recommended route to the lhatziit Park Namely, from Espot to Boi?
2. I would like to continue to track which of the Camino de Santiago. No matter where a lot. Someone did it? Do you have any recommendations on public transport

Thanks in advance:)
shaharellert  
#157 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 11:20:13 PM(UTC)
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Fren-run a search here on the Forum. Rides are through the htniidot not so prevalent in the Pyrenees. On the other hand, were both men and women may stop.

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HarmonicWave  
#158 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:05:37 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert] fren-run search here on the Forum. Rides are through the htniidot not so prevalent in the Pyrenees. On the other hand, were both men and women may stop.


Dawn-we (especially you) in this discussion with her Fren and myriad reasons why she prefers. I think all that's left is to wish her good luck with that.
fren21  
#159 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:30:34 AM(UTC)
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Yes, but the combination of money (we are short and the need for young driver fee sucks), lack of experience and ability to drive a manual car (especially overseas and especially in the mountains), fear and a lot of hope took us to rely on when תחב"צ tell how the hitch.
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#160 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:04:57 AM(UTC)
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The problem in hitchhiking on Espitau de Vielha is about like to hitchhike on the coastal road.
I actually got pretty good sometimes I hitchhiked, but in all cases it was much smaller on the road.
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