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arthur  
#1 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:08:47 AM(UTC)
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Hi

Recently I became interested in Veterans Day.
I'm trying to figure out what's important to me in a bag can have day easier to choose the greatest participation.

Those things came so far, please add.

* Room for shlocr
* Ms.
* Pelvic belt
* Adjustable chest strap
* Built-in rain cover
The helmet place-I can take it to climbing or rappelling
* A place to put ice axes/walking sticks

These are the things I care about comfort and weight of course don't break your back.
What do you say? Arthur 41223.3398148148
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#2 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2012 2:10:39 PM(UTC)
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I personally would add the following considerations:

* Manufacturer/importer to provide good service under warranty.
* Side pockets for comfortable 1.5-liter bottles.
* The preferred type (/peripheral zipper bag).
* Pockets on the die.
* Good options for binding and anchoring equipment off the case.

Would love if you update in progress:)
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#3 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2012 3:12:32 PM(UTC)
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Rain cover, no built-in cover additional equipment connected.

Mek31  
#4 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:29:44 PM(UTC)
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The osprey talon 33 have over a year meets your requirements.
Backpack bag in simple structure, convenient and low weight.
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MikeC  
#5 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:42:14 AM(UTC)
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Arthur
We should make a conceptual distinction between several different needs (maybe):
1) taking day bag with big bag for short trips and SUMMIT BID or adopted-should be very (!) another minimalist and easy to carry him in this case hell.
2-day Alpine helmet bag)/axe/crampons, rope nets
3 day bag for day trips) "normal" (so called him HIKING

Each file is quite different in my opinion.
arthur  
#6 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:48:05 AM(UTC)
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But there's just one bank account.

From what I've seen, I don't think they are so different from each other.
Alpine plain bags made of stronger materials and their properties and as a place to hook a helmet or axes.
So I buy Alpine case but certainly could use it for trips to the land instead of axes connected canes instead swimsuit helmet drying inside the locker, above, and here,
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mrwise  
#7 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 1:29:07 AM(UTC)
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Updated about your choice, because all your considerations identify each one.

But from what I saw, it's best to keep your next trip, Kenya a lot cheaper in Europe.
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#8 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 1:23:02 PM(UTC)
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See also cases of VAUDE.

I have a backpack type 40 ASSYMETRIC, and I think he's responding to your requirements, with the exception of the topic (and some 2 kg).

Besides, tough case.
arthur  
#9 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:39:41 PM(UTC)
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2 + pounds to a backpack. They sell it with a brick.
Besides, I don't like the back of the asimteric system.

The choice in the land of the big day but of small Alpine day bags.
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#10 Posted : Friday, December 7, 2012 1:03:11 AM(UTC)
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The 33 Akbar still meets your needs than another pod, its only drawback is that not better to carry him over with KB this marginal case.
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#11 Posted : Friday, December 7, 2012 1:08:46 AM(UTC)
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This week I purchased Osprey Escapist. It is designed basically to bike/day trips.
From my impression, dated to a few miles out of town a lot. Spine system astounding. Anchor strap. Is there any place intended for shlocr. Bag structure. Weighs pounds to 30 liters. A special trick to have a helmet to a friend. Lots of useful pockets. Very durable. If rain coverage deserves a yellow glow.
You can admire him here:
Use http://www.ospreypacks.c...up/multi/escapist_series

You can find it-to my surprise-Ricochet stores random. If you buy in Eilat's highly lucrative deal-rates are almost identical.
arthur  
#12 Posted : Friday, December 7, 2012 2:17:07 PM(UTC)
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The askiipist too much think bike oriented. Missing a place to connect.

The Raheem seems pretty good, although it is an excursion.
I will look into it.
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#13 Posted : Friday, April 5, 2013 1:58:41 AM(UTC)
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Arthur, if you update about the backpack you purchased.
arthur  
#14 Posted : Friday, April 5, 2013 6:13:15 AM(UTC)
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Oh Yes.
Eventually I purchased this backpack from MAMMUT

In a few words; About Backpack olterliit alpinism. A kind of backpack to carry peak minimalist gear per day on Mount and quick and easy experience to occupy top.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Furthermore, because of the low weight (kilogram) limit for use as a backpack for day trips.

Advantages:
* Very comfortable.
* The back rest.
* Waterproof seams sealed and DRY SACK-built-in zippered inside a zipped into the backpack.
* Removable-HUP ASTEROID BELT could disconnect it demands you can climb with harness
* Closing the case is closed as of DRY SACK, wheeled and caught with clips
* "Covers" of the shell is broken if you want to save weight.
* Room for shlocr
* Option to shpzzor outside gear backpack

Disadvantages:
* I bought 28 liter version so if you are looking for large type backpack for a few days then you might need something bigger.
* There are only two in the country including mine, and I don't think that will bring more anytime soon.
* Lower ice axes shpzzor 2 fabric loops without clips
So that agrsenim unstable as heavier bags that you pzzor with clips In addition, the blade of the axe is visible and not hidden in dedicated pockets.

* No tax (except 2 pockets on the bag cover), people who like order and organization and that everything has its own pocket. On the other hand, it saves a lot of weight.

Fabric: nylon rifstop D100
At the bottom of the bag D840
Have more resistant to it, i.e. with a stronger fabric bag for example 1000D but it makes their edge weights to pounds.
Arthur 41369.1404513889
shaharellert  
#15 Posted : Friday, April 5, 2013 11:16:27 AM(UTC)
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Thank you!
Consider it.
arthur  
#16 Posted : Friday, April 5, 2013 2:08:49 PM(UTC)
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I guess you misunderstood me. There were two such cases in the country. One was bought by an unknown climber and one by dumb amateur (I)
So now no more.

But populate it, I can come to you with a case that can be ordered online and save a lot of money.


P.s.
During my long search that included visiting all sightseeing Center shops (real) I came across a few prototype cases could interest you.
Mammut Guide
Mammut Alpinist
Vaude Challenger
Deuter Guide

Each course advantages and disadvantages, note to this Challenger VAUDE is very interesting.
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