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זמי1  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:53:33 PM(UTC)
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What's wrong with the usual small stove fuel tank screw nut or punching?

Why buy expensive stove fuel with all sorts of gadgets?

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always_travel  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:36:41 PM(UTC)
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Hey,

I think it all begins and ends with a lot of people running after brands and what others are purchasing.

On the one hand, the simple facts of stove fuel.
I have a hotplate to the coolant 16 camping gaz and company value in root's case and believe it or not almost two weeks ago went to ground after a long time she sat in a closet and everything.
She did a great job was too little wind.

On the other hand, I don't think hagziia of a Pocket-Rocket model MSR contains all sorts of gadgets but is just a hotplate that seem at least according to criticism a hotplate and very reliable.
And this is the main reason for purchase (above its light weight and dry data of time boiling etc.).

In addition, I have currently 2 stove fuel of fire maple, simple identity (by the way, one is unnecessary and sale-103 of FMS fire maple) is very similar to that of MSR costs less and does the job.

I'm not a prisoner of brands? I'd be lying if I said that? But I don't want to get into great azol!:-)

Moran

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:46:46 PM(UTC)
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Hey Ma

Don't know what you mean, you write "normal" small stove fuel.

The cheapest stove fuel I found are the circular flame stove fuel with no flare (both sold around 80 NIS). For me personally have three drawbacks:
* Punch balloon
* Weight (350 g)
* Flame. The dispenser. Less cooking.

The equivalent mtbergot the stove fuel cost + $ 120.

If that weight is no issue and is only dispenser so that's a great option.

The need for other stove fuel was born wanting to cut weight or if you want cooking ability (flame and the volume control).

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I personally was looking for a gas burner, tbergt (100 g) and allow even cooking. There are not many options that meet these definitions and prices are high.

Finally I purchased on sale abroad of tbergt gas burner, very easy (48 grams) and has a relatively broad blaze on 160 $ $ = ~

Jonathan
שלוות-עולמים  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:52:13 PM(UTC)
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Ma,
It's kind of hard for me to miss the connection between your post and mine, I'd love to know what you classify as more sophisticated-and if you could give examples of do's and Don'ts so that we can all learn from your experience and do a rookie mistake, thanks in advance!

For proper disclosure, I don't use the blowtorch beyond PAC reserve coffee in cold "I eat, so I'm ignorant on the subject.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:07:17 PM(UTC)
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As I wrote here , bought eBay that this gas burner.

Relatively easy-116 g, and incredibly cheap $ 30 and is at home.

Before I used it, but I tried it at home once and she does a good job (no insignificant features in her eyes of Regulation).
Integral lighter, easy control over the intensity of the flame, holding my Pan properly (although "span her broad wings).
Time will tell, but I think it will do the trick also.


Except the issue of durability and reliability over time, didn't get to see, I don't really see the point of buying the blowtorch comes five times.
If you want to save another 50 g so take my chalia HarmonicWave 41226.717962963
always_travel  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:29:52 PM(UTC)
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Hey,

HarmonicWave
I would love to get a second opinion after a period of use.
In my opinion a hotplate 7 Bay Island dollar extreme side budget and need to purchase something in the middle (not too expensive nor cheap).
Not that hagziia doesn't do the trick, but the question is whether it is reliable over time and not find yourself purchasing another one.

As I wrote, I have a hotplate of Fire Maple, not far from what she named MSR.

Moran
Mek31  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:42:47 PM(UTC)
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Some gadgets? I bought a hundred weight (a lot of discounts) filter gseet weighing 84 made incredibly powerful little without any special feature.

Served me several trips, very strong and comfortable to carry.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:42:29 PM(UTC)
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Please attach link?
MikeC  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:46:31 PM(UTC)
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Ma ... I thought you were just teasing us with questions.

But if you are serious.
Everything depends on the use. For viewers in the country I think also because on this fine Samovar Alpine ltipus. on the EIGER NORTHFACE has more risks and have high reliability (because there is no running water and you build on the blowtorch to melt snow, etc)
Anyway in my opinion:
1) low-POO punching it credibility-leaks, liver, hard Pack, do not punch small containers (as opposed to cutting containers have very little dance for 2 ~ 3 nights trip alone.
2) flare-obviously, weight is a consideration, chnel about packing volume, cooking vs. boiling
3) you want INVERTED and very cold temperatures.
4) vdch all products are the same for most technological difference between cheap Chinese to MSR (which is also manufactured in China) is in QA (quality assurance) and perhaps a selection of spare parts or small herrings etc (I know that of the CONSUMER ELECTRONICS industry where I worked years-so if you're on a long trip the blowtorch along the morning you prefer manufacturer paid for QA properly.

Mickey
neutrino  
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:07:31 AM(UTC)
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I recently bought a gas burner Fire Maple-118 the FMS model cost me 50 bucks including shipping from China. The Alpine Maula gas burner with everything you need for the trip. If we compare almost every alternative in the country will cost twice as much. I wrote a review on BPL with pictures. Can be found here:
Here
MikeC  
#11 Posted : Sunday, December 2, 2012 10:53:29 PM(UTC)
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Gregory
Just FYI that KOVEA FIREMALPE estate produces almost all of the major manufacturers in buying quality gas burner so great (for the most part, differences between the original Chinese to MSR, etc. are in QA)

I also saw someone who combined FMS118 with FMS117T parts what to get but easier with INVERTED PREHEAT

Mickey
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#12 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 12:33:51 AM(UTC)
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Are you?! I also read his blog. Nice. On review I mentioned the idea and weight of "FMS-118T". The problem with stove fuel is still need to carry the gas tank, gas leaks, etc. I'm taking her to family trips.
MikeC  
#13 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 3:22:30 AM(UTC)
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What??? Gas leak?????? I've never heard of such a filter quality tanks.
Obviously this is less reliable than a bottle of alcohol but not sure much less than bnzinia
About weight-abroad has a small (100 gram)
neutrino  
#14 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 2:12:18 PM(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

In my first gas burner with snap (not threaded). I had gas leaks. And even worse things. I think cutting the problem bmichli does not exist or not.

Alcohol has other advantages (known) and of course. In the country I think alcohol rather of 3-4-5 days. Neutrino 41246.470162037
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