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idanz  
#1 Posted : Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:01:19 PM(UTC)
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Hi

Trying my luck-there is someone on the Forum who sells ultralight backpack (up to 1.4 kilos) of 60 liters? Searching the ways of gossamer, ULA, granite etc.

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Yagil  
#2 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:16:41 AM(UTC)
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It's not really olterliit 1.6, but I repeat: recommendation 1.6 kg weight (check) and three alcoholic can get ' ה'נווד ' Gecko ' (review here: http://shvilisrael.myfastforum.org/about964.html unfortunately, Stevens was passed a week ago, then the purchase is irrelevant if you, put you in touch with those in charge of the case).
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#3 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:36:44 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the comments!. Sanded the ad.
I actually read the your judgment (excellent by the way) and the bag sounds great and I would like to receive contact details (at least to see). Of course, the drifter-better mainly because of price.
The only thing that scares me is where I'm going to make my own path and will have a tent, sleeping bag, food and five liters a day.
What do you think? Idanz 41251.9009722222
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#4 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:52:51 AM(UTC)
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I sent a message with details. About the General recommendation is to examine the case with all inside; I.e., the case, after buyers already have all the other equipment and know what's going to take. Then take all, trying to get him to the case. Inbox? Beauty. ? Moving to another file, or decide that downsizing still something.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:00:48 AM(UTC)
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The question of how much weight you can load on casing ultra Lite until it falls apart.

I think more than 10 pounds, including food and water.

Need a powerful pod can carry 15 pounds or more, at least 70 litre או60 +

So you can put all the shaoal equipment and mat from the outside (the mat to wrap if it is amtnpachim).

Always a good idea to load about 3 pounds less than the maximum recommended by the manufacturer.

The ultra Lite won't be able to load it the weight 15 kilos is ideal for trekking.

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Yagil  
#6 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:07:29 AM(UTC)
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Izzy, the question here is how the case. olterliit.
For example, the drifter-interpersonal have enabled (change is adding another aluminum rod in the back, but the custom model costs double) already carried 18 pounds sometime, and registered damages whatsoever (although no canvas carry anything like that in this case: have bags more suitable for heavy weights). In the standard model, the limit is the convenience and durability; The fabric is a standard fabric and recommended weight I think 8-12 kg.

Olterliit actual cases-i.e., a bag that weighs less than pounds and is made of silaniilon fabrics and the like. These files are intended only for lightweight, generally, and are built accordingly: weight savings at the expense of all.

As a rule, need to mention real olterliit case is part of a olterliit approach to travel. Backpack is not the first place to save it, because who conserves a pod but not enough for the rest of the gear, get backache. Nniachf if you're supposed to carry in a bag net weight 12 kg, rather hypothetical case that weighs 2 pounds and is built to leverage against pound and theoretical case built to leverage: it will remind you every day that you need a more serious set backs.
idanz  
#7 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:09:03 AM(UTC)
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So that's it.
I'm going to carry on for 17.5 k and I currently have the most amazing northface crestone 75 weighing 2.5-2.7 kg.
He rested, but respect me.
Thought seriously to find alternatives, and put me on the osprey exos.
From what I can see small Hobo, and stands in three months with that weight.
easyman  
#8 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:13:05 AM(UTC)
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Make spinach diet 15 pounds 10 to 11 pounds more food supplies and water difficult to carry you break ...  ....

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#9 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:22:40 AM(UTC)
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Correct me if I'm wrong but also the aksos over in Throop's nowhere to be found in the country, right?
(I might be interested to buy this bag double white to put him to the lightest weight category. It seems like a great transition for someone who makes the first steps in cutting the weight).

Someone tried to carry him 17 pounds successfully? (In my opinion for this case this is a very borderline weight)
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#10 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:47:51 AM(UTC)
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According to their site 17 lbs that's pretty top of carrying capacity of the aksos, I wouldn't count on comfort or higher load resistance.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:23:42 AM(UTC)
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It is best to carry an extra kilogram of than bag doesn't fit the weight it should carry.
idanz  
#12 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:45:38 PM(UTC)
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Currently, without the bag I 16 pounds (weight).

In such a situation it is better to stay with crestone although he weighs 2.5?
imtl  
#13 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:50:41 PM(UTC)
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There was no better, maybe put your equipment list and try to help you lose weight which includes-
idanz  
#14 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 3:14:07 PM(UTC)
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Right
Open a new discussion.
easyman  
#15 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 3:31:43 PM(UTC)
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Basically the important things are

Backpack, tent ש"קש (preferably also a miner), a mattress that there is nothing to download just buying light and strong.

All this to 6 kilos, preferably 5 pounds.

Clothing have lower thermal clothing shirt and tights ikroplis coat, a konberdvol, a bicycle or a funkier head band-Israel, rain suit (or lightweight poncho) make or coat and warm jacket, gloves and warm neck, all clothing up to 2 kilos.

Gas burner cooking system or a balloon or oalia + alcohol bottle 0.5 l + windscreen and stupid little pot and topped + Dishwashing system small pounds.

First aid and General Repair Kit and toiletries, all this should weigh up to 1 k,

Small survival kit Lederman or top quality Swiss flashlight, rope, batteries, fire, pound in value.

These are the basic things you need. And here everything lbs add 3 litres and kilograms of food per day and arrived 15 pounds less. At least in theory.

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#16 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:00:11 PM(UTC)
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EASYMAN,

I think the estimates given here for weights are something very individual. There are many things that impressed but they really unnecessary luxuries. "
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#17 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:22:36 PM(UTC)
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Given the basic things for the winter without weights just in General to an impression

And everyone does his list here is just talking and chrachim bases and capitals.

Only those who think this pad or tent allowed such luxuries, and the only one that I think is not a luxury

It is of-liner thing.

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#18 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:26:41 PM(UTC)
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The Gossamer gear Mariposa plus registered as 16 kg I carried with such measures, and they certainly weren't very comfortable, but the case was going on a mission.
Of course, the basic weight recommended would be a lot less, and then only when it is possible to carry extra bottles of water or food for a few days.

About auspryy-I too would like to buy one of their easiest models as file. I hesitated between 44 and 46 talon combat airplanes which are expected. They both look good. The Exos is supposed to be better than them?
I remember reading them very good reviews, I just can't remember which one is considered better. Anyway, I found only one which first store (at least according to the Internet I don't know if they have in stock).
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#19 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:34:28 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = easyman]

Given the basic things for the winter without weights just in General to an impression


And everyone does his list here is just talking and chrachim bases and capitals.


Only those who think this pad or tent allowed such luxuries, and the only one that I think is not a luxury


It is of-liner thing.



EASY, just because you think something is not a luxury, it doesn't make it so.

Partial list: Lederman, Finjan, more of a first-aid kit and toiletries (?), liner bag, repair kit for each piece of equipment etc.

There is also a matter of the type of orbit, pulled, etc.
Of course, if it works for you then you would be fun, but absolute settings that you carry are essential, they are redundant. Many people are travelling (and even enjoy) without these items. HarmonicWave 41252.5659259259
easyman  
#20 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:44:25 PM(UTC)
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Toiletries including a first aid kit and a second who is also a general correction system

The tent, mattress as glue patches bouncing, threading the tent and tent patch kit, sewing small silicone tarptant,

All that weighs a pound and successfully off the pounds probably doesn't shave or shower if SOAP pages (great inventions) to trek without Swiss or Leatherman? Little stupid how make coffee or tea.

Use the remove- Possible uncomfortable out coffee flavorednoodles. You can also Trek

BEAR GRILS with nothing just a small survival kit bag 20 liters to handle.

Most people out if the things I mentioned, except as a chainsaw the handle of the toothbrush. It's not a bad idea at all.

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