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idanz  
#21 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 10:49:33 PM(UTC)
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I have a raincoat weighs 100 grams and covering to crestone. The question of what to do in between a raincoat.

And in my opinion I rarely suffer from rainfall. This year in March were some 2-3 days of rain.
Not to mention the desert. Idanz 41252.8264930556
זמי1  
#22 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 4:48:30 PM(UTC)
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I looked at your list.

You have a mistake in the form of calculating weight-backpack off calculation, walking poles, shoes, socks, pants and shirts.

What is 800 grams? Lots of

Heavy gas burner.

Two pairs of pants-pants.

The shirt I wear on top, use the mandpt shirt (I hope)

Socks-hiking socks 3 pairs and two pairs of liner socks.

Where's your rain gear.

Where covering rain backpack Not so in a pod not cover with connecting things outside, but a separate cover casing thinner and lightweight.

Diarrhea pills, arnica, arkoksia,.

Dispenser and shampoo, take small SOAP and laundry.

After list out too-fine. Anyway a week later received the Navy's gym and 2-3 kg won't change anything.

It is important that your body structure correlation backpack-if you thin note that Theresa and make sure the waist could shrink as much as possible, otherwise all the weight will lie on the shoulders.

Think back even better cushioning backpack would be heavier.

About-2.5 casing it. Did he? Also here you can download taking another pod, 75 liter backpack sounds too why you're always say great pod always full and ponder a lot. If you have 60-65 litre rucksack forcing you reduce equipment and weight.

About-not expected to derive risk this winter and wet enough one day to download your motivation, there's no reason not to take rain gear-just not Gore-Tex jacket and pants, storm easy twice v c. Some with side ventilation openings.

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idanz  
#23 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 7:04:03 PM(UTC)
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First of all thanks for the detailed answer.

Right now I run the list by what you say. A few points:

Why download from the calculation of the weight of my backpack? Net weight is on the back? (Unlike the rest of you specify they should be on the body and reduce the overall weight of the back).

About bnzinia-I will pass it to the State, cut and take abenzin Michal 220 gram. The gas burner is how 300-350 g reconsider and 220 gas. Total 500-570 g-that's cool?

2 pairs of pants I mean one and walking one in the bag.

Rain gear-home case cover, raincoat and pants are falling apart like this it does storm pants There are other things in contexts?

The weight of the backpack 2550 after measurement now. Without rain cover.

And what do in between back-case file protected with mountains and I with a raincoat, but bare-back system do?

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easyman  
#24 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 8:51:57 PM(UTC)
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Gas burner installation of 50 g, little pants. Very easy to backpack,

About the spacing, only Cape.

imtl  
#25 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 9:06:28 PM(UTC)
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So all that you're left with a large weight of 15 to 16 pounds.
idanz  
#26 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 9:11:29 PM(UTC)
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Soon get a new table with the conclusion of all.

Anyone have a recommendation for a specific storm pants?

So now-the weight of the bag or no general calculation? Idanz 41253.7590162037
easyman  
#27 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 9:24:37 PM(UTC)
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The case, the clothing you wear don't like shoes, one clothing vest

I'm not walking sticks. About best storm pants and I bought all the expensive suit.

It can buy marmot cip for the Convention in the breathing fabric weight 470

On eBay, it's the same price in value if computers send. ... There is also a simple OUTDOOR Conference costs about 200 pounds.

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#28 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 9:34:23 PM(UTC)
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I'm not really in most people's opinion about the olterliit thing.
But for Israel, you carry plenty of water and food.

2.5 pounds to file "a lot", to me it doesn't really matter as long as you would be comfortable with the real weight you carry, personally I have a very bad experience with ultra Lite files, saving weight is good but in my opinion not.

The guide can be broken down into separate pages

Instead of nzinia, you can save a lot of weight with aleia. The chaleia that made it seem the only equipment to play me on PCT. I would love to help you make one if:).

The glass plate I'd trade in a tiny plastic box (about a pint) preferably with a lid, you can eat it like a bowl and it's pretty easy to drink.
If you're cooking alone and with a partner can even.

One shirt in my opinion is enough, but it's really a personal thing, I'd prefer instead to buy Leiner as http://www.seatosummit.com/products/display/24
Very comfortable to sleep in it and don't need clean clothes to sleep in them and less disgusting:) shcsh

There are those who need it, really comfortable Crocs especially when walking in the desert and you just fantasize about no shoes:) lunch


I'd prefer a raincoat instead trophy, there's something really sucks to get stuck in the rain you don't have much to do but getting wet: \

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It is more expensive than others but significantly harder and falls quickly what has fingers blister

Red skin cream to shpshfot
To crushed, I think if you're really worried about itshoim (if you are sleeping in a tent you have nothing to be concerned about) at least take high percent DEET

I feel halablin not doing anything so I took it:)
Also, shampoo, maximum sliver of SOAP which standard or a rough SOAP stone more suitable for washing, but you don't want it on your skin:)

Unless your phone for music and I think camera with charge AAA batteries.

Take any cloth bag, sack, bag storage for this awful uneasy dining food scattered all over the bag and plastic bags are torn apart after a day or two.
idanz  
#29 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 9:51:50 PM(UTC)
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I think eventually the crestone. Despite its weight.
The Guide (I got today ! It weighs almost anyway) – probably cut him parts as you suggest.

About? I prefer 2-a matter of hygiene. The liver is also significant-liner thing – 250 gr.

Trophy was replaced in a raincoat (me at nylon jacket-simply seems to do the trick.)

About-I can't open that link, you can send it again/upload a photo?

What does it mean on deet in high?

SOAP and shampoo was replaced with dry solid SOAP one of 50 grams.

Batteries for flashlight head.

I got the tip about the bag of food.

Thank you very much.
leibman2  
#30 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 10:11:57 PM(UTC)
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Write to oikoplest at Google than I remember it has a super-Pharm

It's a repellent especially, in my opinion, irrelevant for Israel. DEET

Eli TheHiker  
#31 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 10:59:11 PM(UTC)
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K and k there doesn't really make a big difference.
What do the big difference is the preparation and the body's leg and trip to the existing equipment and that means a lot of trips and up with the weight averages take eventually (around 24 pounds including water and food in your case according to the list) while staying up.
imtl  
#32 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:13:50 PM(UTC)
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Pounds here and there when it really 24 doesn't matter. I think it's just misery to go with that.
easyman  
#33 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:24:43 PM(UTC)
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He's been doing this diet for a consult. Reaches 15kg including food and water, and be fine.

More than 15 pounds you can't carry.

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imtl  
#34 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:36:42 PM(UTC)
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Excuse me but also 15. You can walk the trail with Israel. Said my mind already. I don't want to repeat myself.
idanz  
#35 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:49:10 PM(UTC)
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Imtl-writer with the weight of the case?
imtl  
#36 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:54:33 PM(UTC)
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Yes indeed. When I had "olteraliit" gear and went down a path so Israel not carried more and that was over 13 days in the desert when I took water bulk leaves no choice. I think some exaggeration about what should Israel and for equipment. What do some of your gear is heavy. I certainly don't expect you to spend thousands of dollars and all but I just go out with that weight on your back. That's all.
easyman  
#37 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:59:53 PM(UTC)
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So how much weight equipment including backpack, not including food and water must aspire to reach. No sweat or numbers don't matter here. 41253.8757986111 easyman
imtl  
#38 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:01:27 AM(UTC)
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You ask me how my place or how you should choose?
I think you can reach a weight of 5 pounds which is more than enough. Plus, it includes everything except food and water.
easyman  
#39 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:03:06 AM(UTC)
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It if olterliit equipment (all respect the weight) I guess the guy's interested you think 41253.8777314815 easyman
imtl  
#40 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:05:42 AM(UTC)
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Don't. It less. I'm going with 3.7 pounds of equipment.
The recommendation on 5 pounds was the lovable guy opens the concatenating assignment.
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