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MikeC  
#1 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:16:10 PM(UTC)
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If someone peek (sorry I didn't get to come to the meeting) so I put my CUSTOM shkshim short REVIEW from NUNATAK
At BPL

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Amtrak  
#2 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:25:35 PM(UTC)
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Both the bag look impressive. And your report is full of terms and detailed explanations. Thank you very much.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:34:26 AM(UTC)
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In fun!!

I must say I put the REVIEW for many reasons, but one thing that's important to me to pay attention to is that despite the crazy crush of people in making QUILTS really fair comparison (i.e. similar materials and similar) waves, zero Celsius and South you get almost the same weights and the flexibility of the QUILT is no longer so important that you don't use this flexibility in zero Celsius-i.e. you close you all around the QUILT and you are actually in a mummy.

For comparison shcsh. short and some sea QUILT:
The first ZPACKS 30F) go on a long narrow medium (although everybody claim that he narrowly) I added 3% weight that my 3 shcsh copy 420גרם longer. Remember that all report that ashcsh is not rated and contains almost every backwards.
KATABATIC-30F) is considered excellent in terms of rated temperature. Weighing 496 grams.
3 friend's QUILT from BPL)-7 d from all directions and longitudinal sections contain BAFFLES make 900 weighs 425 10OZ
4) HOOD of KATABATIC go on because it resembles CRESTONE in LOFT to get another 60 g shkshim.
5) compare to my 560גרם shcsh. And probably a little lower ranked those temps (if calculated WM get is probably about minus 4 ... so what could take 30 ~ 40גרם)

So while the QUILTS are indeed easier 50 ~ 20 g (depending on how you count) and they are amazing if you need one shcsh also know to eat in a lot of areas above zero. But black has paid more in terms of discipline DRAFTS.

-This totally awesome QUILT above zero and it can also be used under, but the restrictions are starting to pile up in temperatures and even RYAN JORDAN started to admit in the past that he doesn't like on QUILTS warm below freezing.

Not that I have anything really personal against ... Just their aura they much (!) easier belongs to bygone days where individual QUILTS are created manually by keyboard and only by large companies with heavy materials

Mickey
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#4 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:29:27 PM(UTC)
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Well I'm still deciding whether to buy or shcsh quilt "that opens completely.

I used to wake him up at quilt 10 but maybe SUBZERO temperatures

Better ש"קש?

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MikeC  
#5 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:11:41 PM(UTC)
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Harmonix

Everything is possible – people sleeping in a lower temperature coilette In theory, no problem-iailo I say harder to sleep them successfully at low temperatures for a long time and you finally find that you sleep with a shcsh (note, for example, to ZPACKS of Anat closing the FOOTBOX a: closing the rizertz, close to the neck and HOOD is reversed. So what's the difference?
In addition, the weight differences are no longer so big and why I chose shcsh.

If I had the extra $ $ and more opportunities to test it (because I never like Iced Earth) probably was trying to lower temperature also quilt

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#6 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:36:51 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = MikeC] Harmonix.

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I'm not asking the question "stole" easy me the AVATAR.

Anyway thanks for the review (I haven't read it all yet)!
By the way, convenient to enter and exit the bag?
easyman  
#7 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:52:44 PM(UTC)
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I didn't realize changing icon grab. Sorry

I wont but if it ש"קש the quilt to quilt this looks a better option

Extreme cold. The disadvantage of this bag zipper always gets stuck or torn.

And not always convenient port.

Quilt is another story. More comfortable at the entrance port. There is a zipper. Easier

Wider spacing.

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MikeC  
#8 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:14:43 PM(UTC)
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Well if it's so EASY?
easyman  
#9 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:17:23 PM(UTC)
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Amtrak  
#10 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:40:49 PM(UTC)
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Me personally all these quibbles about straight across twisted, dark little against large zippers, yes a hat or no hat. It just complicates.
All bag/kowiltim you mentioned up will do the job just fine on most trips I plan to get to them. Maybe one will be a bit colder at night, then I'm going to wear another layer on some nights. Maybe not. But temperature is a top rated personal, so since I won't buy them all and see exactly what the differences are, I never know where to feel warmer in any half.
So me, my only dilemma is <-> weight. I look for you (or quilt) weight, and reasonable price for my taste.
neutrino  
#11 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:56:09 PM(UTC)
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Mikey, thanks for the review.

How about using quilt (say 30F) over tmprtora to low? Is there any rationale behind the combo? The wailing wall must be for the same temp. Rating engine?

Gregg.
easyman  
#12 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:56:24 PM(UTC)
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On right and important that the Egypt will rest against the space quilt

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MikeC  
#13 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:11:21 PM(UTC)
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Greg

I (rather than invented it) is very pro combo. Obviously it's a little heavier, but very flexible.
I also use synthetic QUILT over the reverse shcsh because the DEW POINT is less sensitive to moisture and synthetic.
Peek
A blog of ANY KIRKPATRICK
He climbs.
I have a QUILT of MLD that corresponds to it and used it in this manner.
Can't find right now, but there are formulas finger temperature of two diruch.

Mickey
MikeC  
#14 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:36:11 PM(UTC)
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On
What you said, although it is probably true, that's like saying all WPB coats are about the same so I don't care and I buy by weight/price

This is exactly how it comes off and what weight the trade OPS between certain things.
In the end all I was trying to say is:
1) accounted for the details.
2) weight differences between QUILT to large so no longer shcsh
3) to QUILT is not always easy to understand disadvantages before sleeping in extreme cold

Mickey
Amtrak  
#15 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:23:58 PM(UTC)
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Mm. I think you really end up most of my gear I buy by weight/price. As long as it's reasonably comfortable (and I don't have a lot of comfort, actually), and it does work reasonably, I'm too lazy to invest so much for so little differences between pieces of equipment.
I just read some reviews, compare in general some names, and then decide. On deepening research I own.
I really appreciate your investment. Criticism also sleeping bags, and generally on the decline for details and comparisons and accuracy. I finally find is probably reasonable priced equipment + normal + and atsder with him, depending on the trip that I plan to do.
ninelives99  
#16 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:31:05 PM(UTC)
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Awesome awesome awesome. Thanks for this publication. So I waited for your review that bag and review disappointed (not yet finished reading but meanwhile it pleasure).
That I definitely want CCP to experience it as a current bag goes away (or maybe even before.: D)

As for my ZPacks, it has certainly been a mile. The design is different and is maybe a little more than a regular bag but tint principle in most cases used to km altogether (but he is set to hybrid like that so it's not really a good comparison).
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