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easyman  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:33:13 AM(UTC)
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He is torn between two kinds of two different membership quilt.

1.nunatak'sArc Alpinist weighs 426 grams $ 596 + 50 $ shipping.

2.Click for Details of how .752 zpacks grams, $ 460 + shipping.

Both 7° c or F 21

How about or?

Does anyone know if over a holiday in America

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זמי1  
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:00:30 PM(UTC)
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What is the price?!
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:07:21 PM(UTC)
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What to do make it expensive and handmade.

Apparently the quality pay. And enjoy.

I wish it was cheaper. I think the price is too steep.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:44:05 PM(UTC)
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EASY

Specifically I know TOM from NUNATAK (!!)-bought it from 3.

I have a lot of information and what to say about his products and JOE and TIM and KATABATIC and GOOSEFEETGEAR and JRB etc etc.

The interesting question to me is not them but you (deep huh?) that is what you are looking for. These guys do work and you will get kastos. Important (in my opinion) to clarify the question.

Mickey
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#5 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:02:58 PM(UTC)
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The quilt that is much cheaper and still in good quality (see reviews on BPL) is As Enlightened.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:34:39 PM(UTC)
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It is not completely accurate:
1) TIM doesn't make CUSTOM (also JOE doesn't)
Cheap 2) Quilt really is the REVELATIONX made some inferior materials (like SECONDS. fabric scraps) bomb, but stated price without kstomistiot
3) models of TIM they Berry comparison (TOP OF THE LINE) and temperatures (20F EPIPHANY) rise above so conservative.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:22:35 PM(UTC)
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Looks good REVELATIONX cheap price there STANDART or section 30% FILL

What is some STANDART%? Interesting. Almost half price from ZPACK and NUNATAK.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:43:43 PM(UTC)
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If you remember the definition of FILL so that POWER SUPPLY reverse amount supposedly just enough to fill the volume PQ ("standards" volume = weight * PQ. In cubic inches away.)

It's exactly 30% 30% — even warmer and more durable reverse displacement issues at night and drain upside down for years and a reduction in the effective FP resulting from moisture, dirt, many compression cycles

Indeed REV X shell price
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#9 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 10:46:55 PM(UTC)
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What is the difference in between As Enlightened REV REV X more expensive???  .

I think to invite X REV 6FEET WIDE FILL30% 10° f 12 Celsius. A 800 grams, price

After sending $ 252 a real bargain price for this quilt. Would be great in the mountains.

The problem until you sew it takes about two weeks to a month and 10 days delivery.

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#10 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:53:21 AM(UTC)
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Mickey, I really need to meet with you to understand better what you write in the Forum. Not so obvious why the customization is so important? I don't have what I want to change (because I don't know what might have than quilt). I understand the RevX just heavier. And therefore costs less.

The drop rates have increased with new models.

How to select quilt?
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#11 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:57:05 AM(UTC)
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I remember you wrote about ZPacks and I wanted to ask, what if you take sleeping bag with rating engine + 10F- It will cover the milavi? Still with easiest bag.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 1:36:04 AM(UTC)
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The only difference between REV and the SHELL fabric is of the REVX: use fabric scraps they SECONDS with cosmetic defects (Tim writes that without mechanical defects) and is much cheaper. And a little more respect because it 30D and 10D-10 d as in REV.
Like I said, it seemed an excellent VALUE for money.

Greg
Indeed, prices have risen slightly. The difference in weight is due to what I wrote above (cloth)
About kastos-says it is not necessarily important. Only chshmshvim between different manufacturers and kastos obviously costs more. You can't really put a monetary value on weight or quality or certain feature (how much money equals 100 grams ... $ 50 bucks? 200? etc)
I believe those who money is not his limitation has quite a few things worth considering kastos. Obviously you have the experience to decide what you want.
For those who do care-money buy off-the-shelf products from APPAREL companies to VALUE or used in good condition.

About ZPACKS-I don't know why everyone warm them. As I wrote at length-any (!) technological advantage. The DESIGN is interesting (rizertz) which is in itself worth checking out. But besides them, him upside down etc.
Tikshreti with another user is disappointed. There are many issues where it mentioned at Anat (such as narrow width unsuccessful FOOTBOX and awkward backwards) and our new like using CUBEN to light BAFFLES makes them a little but very difficult to shrink back.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just the HYPE in them is excessive and is related to the amount of distortion.

Indeed, if we compare reg zpacks short length, width 10F with short width see 20F rev reg there is the same amount in both kind and mild ZPACKS only 60 g (if you deducted the amount of flip that differs)
And taking into account that it is difficult to compare across that there are full of the TAPER (changing the width throughout the shcsh) but I tried to pick the closest. If, for example, is equal to REV SLIM the difference gets 15 grams. And think of REV has full rizertz.


One thing I'm not sure about how successful the-KARO STEP BAFFLE to be Tim versus CONTINUOUS BAFFLES almost all shkshim have ... I read quite a bit about it and it seems to be very much depends on the attitude of the rectangles in KARO (it's like that cut the corner to flip easily. but still be able to move from box to box. And depending on the size of the cut in relation to the size of the box set if it is easy to move or request. There were guest of the previous DESIGN. I think he fixed. OVERFILL anyway helps prevent COLD SHOWS but I could be convinced that it's better.


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#13 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 10:42:18 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Miki,

Any excel file compares sea quilt? I started to build, but if you have something and I:)
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#14 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 1:33:26 PM(UTC)
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Greg, you're saying you violated my own wonder quilt

Is if I buy the nylon and flip and sew all my materials and take me 200 shekels I came cheap?

Where buy materials or if you have any tutorial on YouTube is very interesting

Was this post of travel that stitch only.

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#15 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 1:55:25 PM(UTC)
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No no! I don't sew quilt! :)
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#16 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:31:40 PM(UTC)
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Unfortunately I don't have Excel ... Made at the time working on ...

Most of what I write here is just a memory (what a waste to keep it all in my head.)

If you want a private Canal in happy to try to help do some good

Mickey
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#17 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 3:53:41 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Micky.

I will continue to build the excel. When I ask you. It is preferable to have some information already.
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#18 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 3:56:13 PM(UTC)
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Some properties that you add to excel?

Stamping manufacturer
Model
Temp. Rating engine
Temp. Accuracy rating engine
Special features
Weight
Price
...
? Neutrino 41280.5395717593
MikeC  
#19 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:41:36 PM(UTC)
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I'd probably add:
Fill weight
Fill power
Hydrophoic dow (yes/no which mfg
Girth (shoulders, hip, foot
Type baffle (sewn thru box, horizontal, vertical, trapzoiz, hybrid, karo etc, continuous, V-bloc. Etc
Baffle height
Baffle spacing
Differential fill yes/no
Overfill%
Outer shell Imperial
Inner Imperial
Imperial baffle
Sharktoe/trapzodial footbox shaped/yes/no
Zipper: type (size, locking, double yes yes/no no, length, position
(Single/double draft tube, diameter, fill
Draft collar ' (yes/no, only full, upper, diameter, fill

About the QUILT was also adds:
Pad attachment system
Fully opens yes/no
Closure system (straps, bar toggles, loops etc gorsgrain
Neck cord loops, cinch system (time, snap

On the keyboard I added:
Pad attachment system?
Hood design (none, open, contoured, anatomical, collar '
-Snag zipper mechanism anti ... especially in the hood area

In general I also observant (if found as)
Static, elastic cinch cord
Cinch cord tunnel (or Imperial silnyl it is just normal Imperial
Hang loops
Foot openings or zippers
Some bags have extra features like pockets, holders for ipod earphone, synthetic insulation around face (to deal with humid breath) or are only top bags with no insulation on bottom .... etc

Despite all this I'd decide first what I want (or what temp shcsh quilt, etc) then it's a lot easier to narrow your selection

Mickey


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#20 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:56:39 PM(UTC)
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