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neutrino  
#41 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:15:59 PM(UTC)
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I received answers, updates the table.

Pour over here? Pretty interesting! But many in English of course.
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#42 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:51:40 PM(UTC)
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First of all thbitho. The findings suggest many interesting things. Mickey, you can confirm the data than you did?

Not tpkati. Here are the answers:

About breathability:
Zpacks: toanim all the breathing bag.
From Tim got an answer like this: 10d is The most breathable nb1 then 10 d 30d, 10d, nb2 im1 and im2 15s in that order.
Katabatic: Inner and outer gear come in fabrics are Pertex Quantum. Both are very breathable and feature an excellent EXTENSION .DWR.

Imperial Baffle:
Everyone makes the baffles (walls) from No-See-Um Netting
ZPacks use Cuben Fiber in my opinion that makes the quilt is much harder to pack back pack

Space/weight ratio enable:
Conductors and katabatic nunatak

They only give katabatic option to draft collar ' and they don't only give an answer about the baffle height:
> What is the baffle height in this quilt?
We feel we have optimized baffle height for the best combination of warmth and down control. Baffle height is exact and something we consider part of our secret recipe and don't share. I hope you can understand our wanting to keep construction in-house methods!

In no koviltim from םערכת close, JRB What they we have:
What is the closure system is used in this quit? I cannot see it well in the pics. There is no closure system. It's a not a bag quilt. See the answer above about the footbox.

All manufacturers at the footbox ZPacks not open completely (but you can do custom as did Anthony)
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#43 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:02:53 PM(UTC)
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Starting to look good.

I'd add ULTRALITE as WM-BENCHMARK or FF HUMMINGBIRD

In addition note of there SHAPED FOOTBOX NUNATAK. See my criticism
Or here

Also note that if you do with TOM-can you add any option you want (such as ZIPPER DRAFT COLLAR ', etc.41284.5033217593 MikeC
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#44 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:05:50 PM(UTC)
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Greg,
A year ago I was in the same situation. Looking for a sleeping bag and making Excel tables with the help of Mickey's kind.
Don't forget to also consider other people's experience with these things and the reviews on the net, it tilt the balance significantly in favour of the ULTRALITE of WM.

Mickey, I know you like to tinker with it as you told me not once on the phone. But eventually, when we get to practice some of the data that you mention here, bringing the total product weight in only a few grams.

Join Mickey's recommendation regarding the use of UL of WM as a benchmark, as many people of his rank is very conservative about what it really is.

As has been said here already, so I think if you have to buy a quilt can be opened to a full blanket (Yes, even if it adds several tens of grams of the zipper). Here is the quilt's beauty, the ability to use tmprotorot range and the flexibility it provides to older people in different positions.

Going over your table, I noticed that most don't Draft tube and kowilts Draft collar '. Must admit you didn't realize how important these things until I used my bag. The effect of the blower when you move inside the bag, very noticeable. You can feel the simplest form of the word the heat escapes you out near your face, when the collar is not closed.
About YouTube, you can see for yourself.


Hope it stops some. Arthur 41284.5953819444
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#45 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:56:23 PM(UTC)
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Thanks guys, take seriously, please advise.

BTW the table you can change if you see any error.

I wish the alsek katabatic. The problem is I have 2 (my wife) and $ 840 on kowiltim without shipping!

Ooff ...

Mickey on your the footbox nunatak is certainly better than zpacks. But I don't see good pictures with the quilts.
Offtopic: I wonder who put him one place:) parquet
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#46 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:00:57 PM(UTC)
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I too think about it is it WATERPROOF alsek katabatic then

Worth the price.  If I had to I REGULAR 1.80 6.?

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#47 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:11:17 PM(UTC)
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What Arthur told:)

About nucho-DRAFT TUBE I think TUBE along the rizertz. Around the neck can more easily improvise by spare clothing
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#48 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:47:46 PM(UTC)
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Sure I use these tables and that discussion someday want to buy this quilt, not far in my opinion should continue.
It is clear to me that the UL too hot to hike three seasons. As he showed me this year in Slovenia. Arthur 41284.6586921296
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#49 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 6:19:32 PM(UTC)
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Backward on me!

I made a mistake in calculation. The down weight/area that is updated in the table.
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#50 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 6:20:17 PM(UTC)
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Q: is weight of before overfill?
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#51 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 10:33:38 PM(UTC)
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The weight data of the manufacturer before OVERFILL you ask .... But "after" some do OVERFILL (e.g. recall ZPACKS 30% and 25% ENLIGHT

Big just to treat this term is almost meaningless to make weight.
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#52 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:35:49 AM(UTC)
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Mickey,

It simplifies life. Thank you.
What kind of the cold that daig spot created right at the edge of the quilt after closing the footbox. I mean, nobody there or draft draft tube pillow.
Ltd.
Tim wasn't there draft tube on zipper footbox. Something can be done about it? Correcting myself.
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#53 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:25:25 PM(UTC)
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If you're referring to the hole that is left in the end-after contracted FOOTBOX
1) drive thinking he was blocked well by reverse-simply because there is so much LOFT area
I was so) in the heart and two NUNATAK problems
3) you can request or create yourself ... DRAFT PLUG For example those who knocked on MLD QUILTS (but that's because they are synthetic and much less LOFT) so either ask or shut with a sock or small pillow flip/synthetic

Needless to say the bigger problem is DRAFTS around and down. I was even considering whether I want to QUILT very low temperature (minus 10 c Governor and South) and worry to wide QUILT that you can prevent the DRAFTS

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#54 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:20:01 PM(UTC)
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Holocaust coilt Ray is designed for temperature of 20, 10 f. What happens in that Christians join strips tied under the mattress? I think that there is no cold air comes out of there seal, you don't sleep on it.

This requires you to sleep with another clothes feel the mattress underneath the body.

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#55 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:55:44 PM(UTC)
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Ma

This area is indeed nothing your body simply clicks on it from above and LOFT a sealing-concerned provided that the QUILT space close enough under the body.

About the fabric of the mattress. Obviously you touch-the problem with this???
About clothes-sleeping naked??
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#56 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:08:44 PM(UTC)
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Right now it looks like the Rev quilt/RevX best. Excellent value for money. The loft is very good, better than the flip-Zpacks and many others, about the mattress + an option to close.

Cons: there's no draft, draft collar ' tube on zipper that closes the footbox

Weight: 580/617 grams depending on the X version or not.

I think great pshot to $ 210

What else have they got WildernessLogic quilt:: http://www.wildernesslogics.com/Top-Quilt-Regular-Top-Quilt-Reg.htm
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#57 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:14:09 PM(UTC)
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But no nudity.
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#58 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:40:31 PM(UTC)
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Greg-I think Mickey was trying to simplify and shorten processes and tell you to go for EE

I haven't seen but Tim's quilt my received opinions on net-cost-benefit ratio as high.
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#59 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 2:25:53 AM(UTC)
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True, but if you don't understand why should take this particular quilt won't be acceptable. I'm six months dug on cams before I bought my DSLR:).

And now I replaced it on Sony's NEX 6 to be easier.
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#60 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 3:00:03 AM(UTC)
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Ma-I don't understand what you're saying. So what if your undies touch fabric of the mattress? At what mattress warming beneath you! If you move your leg sideways you will find that like any object without mattress life in your bed is cold unless you heated it???

Separately, if you sleep in my underwear shorts that wasting begs (aniesi) unless you are warm temperatures. When it's cold-wear shcsh clothing

Greg-except WILDERNESSLOGIC also has GOOSEFEETGEAR and BEN WARBONNET than making QUILTS. But aniesi are less than those already mentioned in every way and not so low.

About EE-I'm not saying they're the best-I say they better shame REVX very reasonably priced (!) attractive

Mickey
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