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moransh  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:49:47 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
Http://www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?cat_id=70&p_id=2301154
It looks very impressive (218 g M-learning) but contains very little (58 g) which leads me to suspect its effectiveness.
Anyone have any experience with it? Know how to say how warm?

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idanz  
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:32:33 PM(UTC)
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I got my coat.
Haven't tried it under extreme conditions but phoned is hot enough for me despite the low weight.
Disadvantage he folds separate storage bag has no internal pockets and hat.
MikeC  
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:37:00 PM(UTC)
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Moran

I have just like his big brother and UL DOWN PARKA

I suggest to fix the terminology:
From now to say "it looks very impressive (218 g M-learning) but contains very little (58 g) which leads me to suspect its effectiveness."

Supposed "backwards it's amazing and relatively easy to heat. What is brass if his temperature ".

Either go tohere and discovered that the INNER heater MBUL DOWN roughly 2 times (!) of brass, weighs 300 POLARTREC is probably less than half and shrunk to the size of an orange.

NUFF SAID

Mickey

Oh-and recommend you look at a cluster of preferred shcsh ה"מבנה"41277.7484259259 MikeC
moransh  
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:14:09 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
There was no discrimination between fleece jacket!
The thing is, he has little upside amount in relation to make coats (ones weighing 400 grams in the area contain that saw 100-150 grams) and was a little hard to keep the ability to quarantine.

The link you gave rather gives the kit easy isolation capabilities!

By the way another coat looks is the crux halo. But expensive.

Thank you!
easyman  
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:20:59 PM(UTC)
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I bought a jacket from Mountain Hardwear Men's Phantom 800 Fill Down something.

Great as 400 grams but reversed asFu Bible should be. Make it reverse as coat $ 200

In the country at least 1200.

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MikeC  
#6 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:14:49 PM(UTC)
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Moran
If tnbur in bpl can not only see the comparison in the cluster but also calculations give tools to estimate what an appropriate isolation level some Temps etc.
There quite a few factors that affect isolation of above. I'm so hard to write iPhone now but maybe tomorrow.
Anyway I wonder what use you want and start from there.
About crux lately I've seen some reviews not flattering-they replaced the factory they work with in China. Maybe provinces. .... But this brings me to the question much more interesting:
How do you decide what impresses you? Think lock on ankadotali model.
I was looking at mountainhardwear, western mountaineering, feathered friends,
Brooks range, rab, montane, north face, marmot, mammut bergahus then understand better what has ...
moransh  
#7 Posted : Friday, January 4, 2013 3:53:19 AM(UTC)
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Hey,
The use of insulated jacket is relevant to graduation day. Not active.

What "impresses me, I have to say the first thing that drew me to the eye in question was his weight. I haven't found many more coats in the area (except the ultralight and Ghost Whisperer patagonia of MH).
And 3 models mentioned the easiest mont bell me achieve what I read too many flattering reviews on it so it looks like a pretty good choice.

I'd still like to hear concrete proposals.
MikeC  
#8 Posted : Monday, January 7, 2013 4:46:41 AM(UTC)
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Moran
In a range of weights has more
I think both have the RAB MICROLIGHT
To the MONTANE FEATHERLITE
To the BR BROOKSRANGE HOODY
There are of course the WM FLASH
And FF HYPERION
BERGHAUS ILAM
GNAR SIERRADESIGNS LITE

Kastos-got to SKAHA NUNATAK
Should the PHD ULTRA
To the LYNGEN NARRONA LITE


The MONTBELL is cool-but it has some disadvantages:
HEM CINCH-CORD which means harder to prevent DRAFTS from below-depending if you wear
On your model, there are no pockets. This is a significant drawback
-HOOD-HOOD INSULATION LAYER top buyer free. It makes no sense (as opposed to MID LAYER for example) you have equally warm hat. And why not make and is connected to your coat?

With regard to its suitability for your needs. You didn't say which end of day (Israel-Scotland-?)
I can tell you that this hot jacket. He is good like brass (plus the fact that it cuts a better mood). I travel cases (say under 7 ~ 5 degrees at night need more help. Since reverse existing coat supplement is very effective (with regard to supplement the above) I think what you're talking temperatures (and of course if you buy several coats to different conditions, etc)

Pretty little add-on flip can do a big difference.

It's 2010 and some of the models we discussed (MH GHOST and GNAR SD LITE) do not appear here but look at BPL

There's a review in 3 parts

Mickey

ד"א if you can buy used on BPL or OM or CC
easyman  
#9 Posted : Monday, January 7, 2013 6:08:59 PM(UTC)
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I guess most don't reverse jackets HOOD Hat Cap. reverse warming dog

Also good to sleep in quilt quilt without HOOD.

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moransh  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 8:51:04 PM(UTC)
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Mike (?)
Thanks for the list I found a couple coats they like. I guess I just buy the first one find at a good price.
The coat right now is for the evening of the 5th region. If I need a coat for more significant temperature happen I will buy another coat.
I basically don't really suffer from the cold. By the way, when you say you need more help, you're talking about a situation where you wear base + mid + above?
About the hood what you said makes sense, I look for the version with the hood.

Moran
MikeC  
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:51:31 PM(UTC)
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Moran

5° C can be cool if dry and no wind. Can be freezing if the humidity is very high and windy.
And no less dependent on your aggregate mode (fatigue/liquid/food

In addition to mind has a very strong dependency on using style-if you are those who go to dark then courses into-cool shcsh.
If like me you stop before dark and started to cook a little, reading, taking pictures and talking to people (if any) then you're way out of shcsh before. Then more important to have a solution to wear warm enough

I found myself in situations that I was cold with this coat. And wearing two shirts + then it about MID GTX gloves and hats had etc.
This usually happens when the supposed after a hard day of z and I just when you really want to be hot:(

Of course, you can work around this in several ways: more MID, another HAGUE, to be in your QUILT I just indicates that the most effective way in terms of weight is to add some more upside in and so I was thinking a little more heavy coat

About purchase-as mentioned I have great experience with purchase of used on BPL, OM etc

Mickey
moransh  
#12 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 4:24:35 AM(UTC)
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Hey,
Better buy me:)
I'm not the kind of people who come and go to sleep and I don't want to buy and carry another Mid/vest, so I think we really go on a coat with insulation.

By the way, what is OM?

Moran
MikeC  
#13 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 10:42:33 PM(UTC)
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Moran

OM = outdoorsmagic.com which is a European/uk forum

You can find used equipment in cascadeclimbers.com plus cumin BPL

Al is pending-a great coat for three seasons. But with what I know today I always take and maybe buy something with a little more upside down.

Mickey
moransh  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:15:15 AM(UTC)
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I understood. I am going to go on one of the most isolated coats (microlight, fatherlight etc.).

Thank you!
Moran
moransh  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:42:31 PM(UTC)
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In the end I went with the Rab microlight arriving today.
The initial coat feels very durable quality and relatively easy cut and allows base + mid under comfortably. I think people are tall and thin coat may be slightly shorter.
Less Spartan coat what I bit mont bell cord to help prevent air entry. If it's interesting, I can add a review after I use it a little.

The coat itself ordered over the Internet from:
Http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/
Andy and says I have no interest in the field but buying store experience was very positive, beyond that they have friendly products they ship to land at reasonable prices and the sales tax off on all shipments to Israel which makes it even more worthwhile.
In addition, since the coat was out of stock they ordered from rab specially the jacket (I gave and colour) and without any obligation on my part. The coat itself received within 10 days from the moment of purchase.

Moran
MikeC  
#16 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:39:17 PM(UTC)
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I also bought there and got great service (including a $ 5פאומד item added for free at their own expense) and reasonable delivery

Mickey
Amtrak  
#17 Posted : Friday, March 1, 2013 2:36:37 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the link to this store is very impressive. Can I buy equipment with ease, and a selection of different companies. Dangerous for me.
MikeC  
#18 Posted : Monday, March 4, 2013 1:32:06 AM(UTC)
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-Among those who think that only mentioned the MH GHOST WHISPERER DRAWCORD at HEM has just as much as you want

The rest are nothing like the MB or elastic as WM FLASH
moransh  
#19 Posted : Monday, March 4, 2013 9:45:21 PM(UTC)
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The shop was! Already stopped myself several times:)
By the way, in the context of patagonia outerwear presented yesterday the new coat.
Also fill power 1000 (I think they first) and reverse past waterproof treatment (similar to berghuas's ilam).
All this at an attractive price of $ 700!.
MikeC  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:03:57 PM(UTC)
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Moran

There are some interesting threads on BPL for this coat two months (there manage to get one way service representative PROTOTYPES of PATA.

This technology is different (!) than the others (there are 3 manufacturers that everyone buys them) that does not use FLOUROCARBONS as a standard EXTENSION .DWR (sensitive to dirt and abrasions) in PLASMA, but SILICONE fibers enable ENCAPSULATION. And it's more interesting.

Actually it's CLAD development SOON and bought some PATA's girlfriend.
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