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PastorOfMuppets  
#1 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 12:21:57 AM(UTC)
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Hi everyone, great forum and I read it a lot lately.

I'm planning a trip to Iceland in the summer, and even though it's summer, I have a sleeping bag (for cases of temperatures below freezing).
I did a brief search network, and many select shops in the country, and they were very heavy.
I found the ZPACKS and read the topics about them in the Forum, and they do look rather several times for miles!
Their weight just crazy-expensive price notwithstanding, it looks like a huge weight savings.

There are other options I might have missed? Advice or tips? I will always be happy:)
Thanks in advance!
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easyman  
#2 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:51:11 AM(UTC)
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Only if you sleep in a tent and mattress why not go to quilt? More convenient, easier
Warming in the same way, cheaper shows how threads down nice quilt for $ 200.
I went to quilt a long time more comfortable.
Z PACKS one of the best and the people that created that, kowiltim, backpacks and tents UL UL SUPER SUPER lightweight.
Can be ordered in special order all kinds of options.
It is better to invite all the newly opened ש"קש and quilt.
Have to wait until the Egyptians that if it could be shipping two months if in stock. ..... 41336.2601388889 easyman
PastorOfMuppets  
#3 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 3:45:42 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
I realized that actually the quilt area ה"מעוך" human mattress so that this area is saved.
Then connect the mattress with straps/quilt rubber cords for tightening and howling?
And ZPACK. is basically just shaped like quilt closing zipper and wires/connections of all kinds?

If this is it, I really don't want to have to mess with straps, strings, and things that can be released to me during bedtime.
Strong winds in Iceland is common, and I don't want anything to happen to a profit and then I become popsicle quilt. (I sleep in a tent, but is not completely sealed the spirits).
Here the zipper issue seems appropriate.

I'd love to repairs if I got something wrong in the subject:) quilt
Thank you!
easyman  
#4 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 4:13:04 PM(UTC)
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Well I didn't have any problems with anything and loose quilt
And I was no conditions to camping conditions wind and water it is important to have sealed even if ש"קש if a zipper, I wasn't going to Iceland if the tent is not waterproof rain and winds, even in summer, and strong winds and rains in summer and also that backwards and water don't go well together.
In my opinion, ask at least for 7 ש"קש degrees tzlzium or 20 f I think it beats unexpected source conditions. I recommend 12 or 10 Celsius Fahrenheit.   L. ZPACKS has excellent artwork kg and lighter.
And it can be opened completely if a loop can legs open and close and then you also have quilt ש"קש (useful dialog) so you can sleep well at night because fun hot hot nights that make you can't sleep very hot (and warm nights in Iceland also Greenland).
You can send an email to ask what LEGO Factory also want special order, just consider two months until u reaches Earth. 41336.5841087963 easyman
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#5 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 5:03:43 PM(UTC)
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Read a report about his trip on IMTL Iceland here on the site.

You can ask him what equipment he used (I believe in Julie's quilt).
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#6 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 5:54:41 PM(UTC)
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And Zpacks tent Hexamid
PastorOfMuppets  
#7 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:26:26 PM(UTC)
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Read:) reporting

Okay, so now it's pretty much the dilemma between ZPACKS and EE's quilt.
What really draws on EE, it's very cheap price. The difference in weight less than mind. And you can buy one adapted to lower temperatures can make up for loss of heat due to the quilt structure?

I'd like another opinion on quilt usage.
Still sounds cumbersome ...
HarmonicWave  
#8 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:37:26 PM(UTC)
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For me rather less cumbersome-a question of personal taste.

Recommend that you continue to get acquainted with the search engine here in the Forum.
This kind of trouble here and listed many advantages/disadvantages of kowiltim vs k

Read more questions, so specific.
easyman  
#9 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 7:00:07 PM(UTC)
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You don't lose any heat!
Of the quilt and swells.
Less cumbersome is that there's just no limits or zipper can break.
Foot pocket, and sits you excellent.
What does have an inflatable mattress rather not have to sleep in the tent seal water
And if rain cover and mosquito net or tarptant, not sealed and quilt live
Water and flip. No matter the ש"קש quilt coat gets wet, ineffective becomes heavy, long time no special drying Sun,
Take advice on emergency support buying on eBay 10 $ 150 a gram weigh
Seal water and spirit rather large double and easier to get if you've got all the quilt types also have made breathing of SOL Orange sol emergency bivvy put shcsh above the quilt or (to buy their escape blanket is very good even when an emergency signal and ground sheet).
Or as a backup if that (can use in emergencies) gets wet if you depart if upside down.
Always have a backup if flip got wet coat and quilt too or ש"קש. Remember in Iceland and Northern Europe and in the Middle it rains in summer and too unpredictable storms so to prepare for any situation. As an experienced climber and bread I'm going out into the field ready for the weather can change in an hour. 41336.6876157407 easyman
MikeC  
#10 Posted : Monday, March 4, 2013 1:28:44 AM(UTC)
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You lack knowledge and information (which doesn't necessarily mean I didn't enjoy anything you buy)

I highly recommend reading the ZPACKS cluster of Anat (NINELIVES) and more of Arthur (NEUTRINO) by shcsh

And read a little about the differences in BPL etc

Big:
-Real weight savings between a small quilt shcsh
There are many people who use the quilt (!!) more difficult than you think-it requires discipline specific but no big deal.
-More than a few great producers of kowilts not specified
-More benefits of quilt lie down and his shortcomings are becoming more meaningful

After reading some seems to get a very clear picture of the TRADEOFFS.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 6, 2013 1:49:16 AM(UTC)
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Thank you everyone for your replies,

Indeed, information and knowledge got so open. (And read before all the issues related to the Forum, I found in my search).

I did a bit of a mess, so now fix a bit:
* After reading more, I decided that I'd rather not quilt kg.

Currently, I have two options:
1. k. ZPACKS, high price, very low weight. (HOOD obtrusive).
2. the km Mountain Hardwear 20F basal Lamina, price-low $ 600, but high-weight 1400 Gr.

Here are the weight and the price they're my considerations.

What I'd like is to know whether manufacturers (at least towards large companies) could be another option. That I'm not aware of. (Exactly what you said, although meant to quilt makers).

easyman  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 6, 2013 2:13:26 AM(UTC)
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To one of the best companies MH world.
ש"קש great, but didn't make his synthetic so the weight relative to average even if synthetic wet like that.
If you pay more expensive but make make get ש"קש of a pound
More or less, I think it is better make lightweight and heats great, but have a backup as I wrote first if gets wet it's upside down problem
BTW the HOOD can be bought separately I think you for ZPACKS if separate HOOD couple $ also serves as a warm hat and make reservations fast because the wait can take you months to at least עדיף10F 20F. Easyman 41338.9718402778
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 6, 2013 2:43:23 AM(UTC)
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Recommend to watch what should western mountaineering and feathered friends to offer.

BTW, reading online and personal experiences of people who took the bag of zpacks to their rankings very optimistic. Shaharellert 41338.9927314815
MikeC  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, March 6, 2013 12:31:18 PM(UTC)
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What's important to me to pay attention to it:
ZPACKS "easy" but wonders length:
1 TEMP RATING ENGINE) is not real (and relatively low volume filling compared to the industry standard)
2) HOOD-if sleep in reverse or Cap 20F have very hot stocking-not (!) would Hat Bell anyway if you weren't sleeping. You have to weight the weight
3) you are comparing similar to BASAL LAMINA and ULTRA OVERFEATURED and homarip them less easy. Compare to something relevant made from UL
4) TUBE on ZIPPER DRAFT – and it seems if you use as COLD SPOT, but make for QUILT if you use you – read the large cluster of Anat and offered to consider how the data there.

I was looking at (which depends on temperature)
Western mountaineering Versalite or Summerlite or Ultralite

MH-Speed 32

Marmot Plasma 30-15,

Feathered friends at Hummingbird

RAB infinity or Nuetrino


Alpinist + SL Catabatic Nunatak


Sierra Designs Cal6/13 Dridown



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PastorOfMuppets  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:15:42 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, I took into account.
Not really comparing them, but showed different considerations options
By the way, you can add Draft Tube to ZP PARSING.

I did a search to find something cheaper than most things you proposed
I found this:
-Somnus http://www.backcountry.com/stoic-sz 15-sleeping-bag-15-degree down
There are positive opinions on BPL and positive as well.
Comments on weight 2 lb spray foam 2oz.
MikeC  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:29:35 PM(UTC)
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If you just received DRAFT TUBE etc-shcsh don't understand what the big deal is.

It's part of the Hallein SOMNOUS LABLEL BACKCOUNTRY's cool WHITE are completely but stop producing soon.
PastorOfMuppets  
#17 Posted : Saturday, March 9, 2013 4:15:12 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for helping,
I ordered at the end of the Stoic Somnus SZ 15, a second opinion might give him six months:)
HarmonicWave  
#18 Posted : Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:23:39 PM(UTC)
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Congratulations, enjoy, and would come back to report not only on the tour equipment
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