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#1 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:34:55 PM(UTC)
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Hi dear friends,
I'm back from a few weeks in the country and also for Israel.
Moved generally experiences good and bad scary, funny and etc.
But one particularly troubling, or rather a particular experience that attacked me repeatedly when I met in ו'שביליסטים ' rule.
In my opinion, two kinds of (and excuse my terminology, but I think it indicates something deep and Basic), a call first defined to reach from point Y to point x, and there is talk that it might also travel to it from point y to point x, but no such obligation.
All people that I met, except for a few precious people,
They used the first option, for when they are equipped with expensive equipment at levels unimaginable until a matching DrawString shoe Cap thread, most of them already knew exactly the course they do each week, where they slept on the same day, where to eat, drink coffee and shit poop of dusk. The camera of course depends on the shoulder, Israel National Trail books and fill cases as well etc etc.
And, really, a custom unity.
Launched-equipment, open mind, open eyes to see the beauty of the world and goes the shirt army unit broken, no sticking no tikatuki call phone camera for most of the book of deer, not necessarily sell them etc etc.

I believe you've already understood the point I'm trying to convey.
This trip is an opportunity, a chance to campaign.
An opportunity to disconnect an hour or a month in the outside world that we so attached to him, unable to get out and discover new worlds both outside and in our heads (and if you ask me, both options stuck each other).
And most people ignore it, and bring them to the wonderful world, this great world called through the certainty and control.

Cast control, leave it at home, let yourself not knowing in advance where everything stops, etc.
Dedicated sleep one night where the fashion police, just like that. Not an Angel nor with resin, without good shower or bed linen, but just in front of the fire and the sky.
Save yourself thousands of dollars on a system that supports the squad back bullshit you lower back, because what is a journey without a little pain? Without some difficulty and lunacy? Why sweat evaporates? Give yours a little ache, legs a bit to feel the ground you tread on it.
Unplug the phone, leave a voice message that only a few days you can get
One day, one day all around without a camera, back to see the beauty of this country through your eyes!
Mainly, save me and me in the comments: "you're probably not really understand what that Bill dated"/"what!? Really alone?! " /"The harmonica is overweight and there's more and more and reactions of people who have never experienced the journey.
Trip and Israel in particular path can be extended far beyond seeing new people, landscapes, and receive new eyes.

I could write another endlessly, but I hope it's enough.
I would love comments
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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:06:10 PM(UTC)
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Let yourself drift, forget it, and it's great experience, don't argue. It is suitable for you and probably not suitable for others.

I met many travelers also like that you go from X to Y and never heard one hiker said at the end of the journey: marked X on this trip.

Everybody describe it as an amazing journey, a wonderful lifetime experience, each in his own way. One goes with the other thousands of dollars cheaper with each according to what suits him or his pocket.

My first trip in a row went without a camera, and it was wonderful. The photo, I left my partner. The two small sections: 49 no less and differently. With a camera.

The third new and different experience. The reactions of those who met you are relevant as over-reacting. Met in the Negev who saw them as they leave without planning

And it cost them dearly, and I mean also money they had to spend on the trip itself that is not planned properly, or want to save on equipment, and in the end were forced

Off the trail after two days to return to Eilat and buy new and suitable pod only what's in store. And suffer from lower back pain if possible without them?

Harmonica great guitar (less good), going alone is great (maybe better in two desert), but believe me they all experienced the journey and everybody knew the beauty of our country, each in his own way.

And you were special, and it's a good thing!

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#3 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2013 5:01:32 AM(UTC)
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I didn't quite understand what you were trying to say here.
Who's to say that a has suffered?
Who decided that good and expensive equipment?
If I traveled with a funkier head band-Israel instead less army t-shirt Patriot with a runway end shirt (Hint: no)

On one hand I think I enjoyed most in the desert because the disconnect me. On the other hand-don't think anyone can judge someone else about the way he's going.
Everyone does this journey the way he wants and what is best for him. I just can't understand why someone occasionally jumps to demands to move Forum criticized that step up for him that look. And if that's not enough-requires others to stop judging him.

Want some good advice to most long journeys?
Stop looking at clothing, backpacks and accommodation arrangements of other people (unless you want to learn) and start to walk.
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#4 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2013 11:15:53 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = GibsonLP] I didn't quite understand what you were trying to say here.
Who's to say that a has suffered?
Who decided that good and expensive equipment?
If I traveled with a funkier head band-Israel instead less army t-shirt Patriot with a runway end shirt (Hint: no)

On one hand I think I enjoyed most in the desert because the disconnect me. On the other hand-don't think anyone can judge someone else about the way he's going.
Everyone does this journey the way he wants and what is best for him. I just can't understand why someone occasionally jumps to demands to move Forum criticized that step up for him that look. And if that's not enough-requires others to stop judging him.

Want some good advice to most long journeys?
Stop looking at clothing, backpacks and accommodation arrangements of other people (unless you want to learn) and start to walk.

Every word.

About the pathetic at all.

We are a group of 50 + most of us with back problems or knees (or both) really really go with a backpack and no sticks to amplify and back problems. It empowers us to experience. Just pathetic.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:17:26 AM(UTC)
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I'm getting an idea of what you wrote.

We walked the whole trail, medium with Minos, sweaty, dirty, Malachi Bill maybe once a week (for the bathroom), and it is not always. Although the General route was planned in advance, but don't know where to sleep every time and you know it's not pointless. A little sore, a little rest, no directory etc. etc. etc.

But ...

It hasn't made us only people who did this. " Met a bunch of people are more or less columns, some even laughed at us, too, about how our equipment looks and more dialogues of the kind you describe. And you know what? They are also their subjective experience perfectly safe they those who did "really" path, and we lived among in the minds of a couple of amateurs who might not come until the end. And it really doesn't matter.

I agree with most things, just because I love more than campaign approach. I just don't agree with the criticism about the other side. I know the feeling of coming back after a long journey, feel you did it alone, with both legs without help or perks, then it's easy to underestimate those hikers to sleep in. For the record, I'm somehow sure that's what you mean, just like that it implies work.

However as time goes on, the equipment is replaced by something better, lifts her chastity, then one day you might find yourself standing in front of a bunch of loose are fresh (and messy, of course) in the parking lot, a stream your company Rover, respect them just roasted salmon fish and some beers. It also allowed.

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#6 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 12:50:38 PM(UTC)
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Hi guys, thanks for responding.
For the avoidance of doubt,
Still not arranged shifts thugs who beat pedestrians for mdogamim or itmino charges at most trail angels,
But I'm bugging point and hurts me
And I'm not standing here in front of the private person and the specific case raised as ' ioblosh ', but I'm talking about the phenomenon as a whole, and perhaps more on the phenomenon a kind of ideology.

I didn't claim that there is some kind of ranking for those man who makes for more truth etc etc,
I despise all my heart in such matters, and even prefer the man walking across ' bilist ' or anything else.

But when I write again I'm going against the idea and against man,
And as some responses already, who suffers it, the detachment and implication of all trust-know what I'm talking about.
And gear I really don't have a problem with good equipment,
I myself am going with not bad at all, but about the equipment and refer to is a major symptom to the point I'm talking about,
From the moment you walk into the store, listening to sellers until blblani, nzervat sex perception slowly if you haven't bought a thousand shekels-then I have no way to deal with the road. And of course it also created the other front marching with us, us.
And even the whole world walking day frenzy to rest everything as much as possible. Get example: gps, one of the most useful things in the world today, no man feels lost.
Why this causes discomfort? She makes that when navigation in my unit in the army, people don't know their brother, or a man who knows how to navigate! Without orientation in space?
And the worst thing to me is the disconnect comfort causes instead of dad to take the child, the child learns naturally what is an extension and a saddle and hidden, there's no such things.
The discomfort many times disconnection, detachment against other human beings (sms for example),
And when I think about the trip, part of the experience is also adopted, muscle, sweat and coffee after the request.
And when all this-the journey becomes like a tour of the tour bus.
Use in Court of Yehuda Amichai maybe some light up words:
"In the desert, according to several tourism or tell history as having sex with a woman, according to several positions.

And, if nothing happens on this forum will carry other than equipment issues, find a partner or things like,
Who like us know what a great platform creates the trip to our brain and consciousness.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:00:06 PM(UTC)
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"My land"

Firstly, if you specify your profile name, you land is a bit much. However mother nature.

Secondly, I refer to your last statement-there is definitely room for other topics, some general forum.

And I move even irrelevant topics so one forum to another, but if it helps Publisher.

You can write whatever you want, almost anywhere in the forums.

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#8 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:29:26 PM(UTC)
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I agree not the equipment makes the person to move. Equipment is important and necessary. What's more important is to test the limits of your own to get the "מ"איזור of life and deal with something unfamiliar. Here the most usually fall. Or stop or just going from town to town and long trail.

I think some dude kteltam here. What I don't agree with Let's go approach would be okay because perhaps it fits in the Israel National Trail (INT) (and I think here), but certainly not fit elsewhere.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 2:32:57 PM(UTC)
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#10 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:18:11 PM(UTC)
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It all depends very much on the nature of the traveler, and ability. Some could go to an unspecified period due to the undefined terms and without discomfort, others have to plan everything in advance, providing maximum comfort or suffer.
Anyway, when the tour is hard enough and there are always surprises.
Never went as planned and need to be aware and to be flexible and adjust to the time and abilities, just so you can really enjoy a good trip.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:46:52 PM(UTC)
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I agree with rinse hold deer to ground out, but I also think there's no reason in the world to visit others because their equipment or their design.

We're constantly getting educators on a long trip without equipment and without planning it very unwise. Then the Earth loves to get thrown on the ground and he may also navigate great.

And identify edible roots and more. The average traveler needs and equipment planning. The Earth reminds me of the pilgrim who went several years ago near Tzur Hadassah, when on the cross.

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#12 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 2:33:52 AM(UTC)
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Ma, I added my name, now only remains to choose which is better.

Dear gentlemen,
No need to get carried away,
Normal Earth humans ungrateful for her.
So too, with some other scary ideas and blessings by another person if I think about the journey and the way in which beauty and so merited.
In fact, some cool wouldn't hurt.

As a friend wrote above,
I am an excellent Navigator and eats roots and Bible in and cross portfolios that I was Jewish tradition (and what you say about this weight!?)
Maybe you should do some calculation to belong according to Scripture and the weight on the left. :)

And anyway,
I've spent my conceptual nerali while not deaf ears-space Groove.
I plan to return to the roads soon,
And like I told a guy named Marcel Proust: "true journey is composed of finding new views, but looking through new eyes".
So I wish for all of us.

Zelda says:
"The flame to Cypress
When I see
How do you get pregnant
Some clad genius?
Something inside is rampant
How to pass the life
These terrible
Without a hint of madness.
Without a hint of spirituality
Without a shred of imagination
Without a shred of freedom.
In ancient and gloomy pride. "

And it seems the smart guy who brings me to prove the song,
Forget, so what if Zelda thought otherwise!
So I think, and that's what counts.
Greetings dear people.
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#13 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 1:51:53 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Earth land]
So too, with some other scary ideas

I think you flatter yourself (and me) when the opposing opinion as resulting "מ"פחד

Nothing to you didn't scare me. You love to athelb on the ground as I can think that pleasure more than a day's walk for finishing with hot water. It's not like I went to sleep, sweat and sour and no shower in the garage the night little crater or on farm or Ms. Conn and continued to walk the next day as I am.

It just means for me at least it's not the experience for trees (or "journey" as you like to call it).

The main problem with mind like I better mention that Gibson is the inherent arrogance and a blowjob from a line that says there is only one way to go on (my) and many wrong ways (of each other).

A little modesty wouldn't hurt.

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#14 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 2:32:42 PM(UTC)
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Modesty in this gait keyword.
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#15 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 2:58:05 PM(UTC)
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"As a friend wrote above,
I am an excellent Navigator and eats roots and Bible in ''
And it said "foreign and ihallch in your mouth."
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#16 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 2:59:05 PM(UTC)
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Underground-but since then, the country will "" Well, well, your reasons. Lay the arguments.

There is no fear of man.
The trail is open to all of it, every religion, kaza.
Open Forum for opinion and respond accordingly.
I'd like to think there's a smart-ass respond to challenges or deaf ears.
In faith to live and hold equipment at night.
Let's move on.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:49:29 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Earth land]
...
Dear gentlemen,
No need to get carried away,
Normal Earth humans ungrateful for her.
So too, with some other scary ideas
...
...
An excellent Navigator.
...

...
So I think, and that's what counts.
...


These citations can quietly be quotations Miri Regev's. זמי1 41380.9063888889
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:21:49 AM(UTC)
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D. stop.

The bndadam gave an idea, thought about, reacted and it was nice.

There is no other way to move my "experience than excited her and praise her (and me).

Leave the deep analysis of what soil type. If I analyze this way most of the lectures I ever heard say (pretty interesting I must say), or travel stories I tell my friends, I was also easily manages to scrape some pearls of arrogance or modesty. Because we are the most well-known and recognized forum across the world as a source of humility.

To exit by Smarty class here is for the song:

Him I'd burn the establishment named periods this year.

And your damn dependence

On the ground, in the air, the Sun, and meter.

The Cypress is silent,

He knows which devour

Has freedom.

It has imagination.

It has spirituality

But the flame.

You wouldn't believe the flame

(Credit to Google of course)

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:03:17 PM(UTC)
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:50:55 PM(UTC)
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Friends,
This actually disappointed.
Like a bunch of kindergarten children stand in a line and shrieking.
The base was opened,
Do a little bit of humor can't be useful?
With a keyboard of my obnoxious one line, 5 different writers ignore the topic and with the insights and witty comments very much!
How said the reactions themselves prove any case approaches in relation to walking, and all loaded one proven older messages to the Organization, (but my understanding is a touchy subject, perhaps leaving him and want an explanation, just ask a private message).

And,
Of course, such things were towering half my wink,
But only half
I navigate well and truly eating roots, and you touching my nerves and fear, showed this so beautiful now, isn't it?
In the gemara is an important heat wave passed, one that's Chandler! speed him in and hit that break up Israel humbly Gamaliel, and undoubtedly serious and said: "don't break I humbly Israel still remain. Do you understand? Maybe just a little?
The arrogance is half and half seriously.
Just to change the word conceit in word recognition.


Gibson, do you understand the words read out of context?
Let me explain the said source.
I brought part of song of Zelda, but what to do and poetry of Zelda disagreed me, so I got the part I appreciate the good words approach, and integrity, I mention that another thought, but Zelda when I expressed my opinion in response to what is important.



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