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יענקל'ה סער  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:45:32 PM(UTC)
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Look, I understand that you are a man of many talents in Navigator and more. Don't quote you nor half quote (because the other half is a joke. )

There is one particular "fear" that the forum messages, even if they have rows of Gordon and/or Zelda. And there's no reason to flaunt or do not have attributes.

We all love to travel and often express criticism of others in any way. Good advice can be better or less and be happy. Enjoy your way and let others enjoy en route.

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#22 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:46:43 PM(UTC)
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I have to say that before I said a bit more take the shape of your writing is hard but you are arrogant, there's nothing to do.

Are you aware that your "not very original and you have so a place to strut and this arrogance?

You can be assured that at least some people on the Forum here that writers are experienced in the field and "no less or more than you.

You my friend is the one who misses the point of a walk in nature and mind in a few subjects.

Who will have more hero or macho or benefit people. The link is only in your mind and those who normally come to be extracted or just die.

I wrote earlier that some modesty. That was sarcasm too as you like. It takes a lot of humility to be.
Who goes with palaberot finish on one or another stage as retarded.

You think you're hot shit? Do you think you are? I'm happy for you. I don't pretend to know you and those tracks. I'd be happy if you were sharing information and experience rather than trying to function as Christ was mizzen (and thanks for all the quotes wrong relating sources).

The greatest aiikrim in the world (and forgive me if I am nauseated that you're not one of them) are actually the ones who understand that this is pure. Walking distances. Ferris trails. Nature. No more deep and pure it for less. Therefore, sharing of information and experience is important in the me and I know from talking to some of them, too.
To this forum as this forum exists. I personally really excited when I hear about a course or somebody walking experience even if I already went and if I help it even if I had nothing to do with it. Knowing myself humbled what's right or wrong.

There's no competition. There are no win or lose. There's love for walking in nature. If you feel free not to post here. I don't think anyone here need a Messiah or a prophet to show him the way. " Let me also guess that maybe I'm wrong but to eat roots still doesn't make you an expert on survival. I hope you never get caught real danger mode test your skills as a "space" that my concern that you're not that Cannon as you might think.

Finish it I hope you understand things and maybe think about share and contribute and not hatmshach. Someone might buy to shed light on some new stuff that I'm sure everyone is always happy to read rather than "scary" theories also nonnative weight.

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#23 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:51:51 PM(UTC)
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And writing to you just two days ago, deer wrote that descend on you too.

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#24 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:53:17 PM(UTC)
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I'm going to try to get the light from the darkness,
And you're saying isoshho difference of meaning.

I by no means arguing who's got bigger,
The total came to offer specific ideas that I believe in,
I didn't say that because you're a spoiled, claimed and still claim to lose and Miss much to my taste.

The greatest aiikrim in the world?
Tell a friend you serious or you are writing?
Because if you're serious, so how are the Club.
And say, "is there such a loyalty card that you get and I could show it to the girls
And juries that determine who? That I climbed the last 17 minutes with Tabor tatonka 75, old Oslo flat Delta Island, and have a little extra weight around the loins, it cost me my score? But I am not balding, so that excess weight on your head, then take off in a few seconds! Good? Nev.
Come on.

And close.
If half the response dealing with writing about the purity of nature or natural btoher or something.
Dishonest is that alright with you? to devote the second half reaction to attack me for things being not the best aiikrim and blah blah.

As I wrote already above,
Not yet started passing shifts from one of bilists and the old him,
I suggest a certain idea.
As dared to admit some writing between the lines, it is an idea that have them know what I'm talking about.
Who has experienced it can understand a little more it is not athelb,
To whoever writes athelb experiencing or living too much in the world of images.
And I have a little contempt for sanctity you attribute to valuable equipment,
The seriousness of this abysmal seriousness that makes you say ridiculous phrases like: "you really don't seem to know what the touch or talk about the best aiikrim or something like that, I'm not sure if I understand if he is serious about the phrase or not.
The comfort? Comfort makes 90 ignorance and to what existed here. So simply.
If people take for 60 and need a specific equipment, fine, but what do you want from me?
God you aged 60, you're supposed to understand I didn't mean you.

In short,
I was hoping for a bit more discussion is appropriate, I wish a chute and thoughtful and level so low.
I was hoping not to fall on deaf ears and fell,
That Berel Lazar is not only the person who absolutely won't listen,
But he's like a deer, engaged only if new idea or not and if I or my donkey original white or pink.
I didn't (except for a few single words I could gather) to get really interesting and important question.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:28:36 PM(UTC)
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Interesting question and your original ה"רעיון important I guess. If you bother to read a little, you would see that many discussions here are exactly that. I wrote you that instead of pouring the amount of pointless text and attempt to arrogance, I'm sure she's destitute, so make yourself useful and contributes to a forum on the nature walk that you claim to love so much. Maybe even better shut up because someone else listens and tries to imitate the stupidity that you are exhibiting here. At the end of another retard will you.

Wow I must say you're more childish than it seemed at first. It doesn't really matter anymore, not really important who you are and what you are. Again, my hope is that some older and doesn't sound you in some grim message.

After your hatimerot writing this kind of absurd trying to get us out of our misery and preached some sarcasm when you don't understand sarcasm is minimal. The big moves. A very small and smart.

Dude, the dumb and childish discussion with you. I see all you want is simple. Hope you've had enough and stop quibbling and especially not try your bullshit and trails a little more rough than I described you did here because you will be correcting that mediaeval experience I don't wish you the same.

When you win a real journey I hope to be mature enough to process you went through something like that and maybe understand what walk in nature. Until then do the world a favor and stay home or at least shut up.
Welcome out.
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#26 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:28:34 AM(UTC)
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I want to talk about is far more serious. The time has come for us, too, the salt of the Earth and pepper of the Earth, we all start to realize that this is the future, here lies the love.
And (literally) is unnecessary
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#27 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:57:28 AM(UTC)
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How do you always mention the Hobie. See you at the beach for starters and volcano on this occasion also go another section of trail.

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#28 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:30:33 AM(UTC)
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All words, I created the strange impression that you simply "anti progress" which is not necessarily just about trips but worldview. I got to meet and travel with several travellers still don't use cell phones and electronic equipment particularly personal lives and of course it shows about travel in style, tools, accessories, etc.
Am I right? That seems to be taking the use of technology to improve your trip a little too hard.
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#29 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:23:11 PM(UTC)
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I'm not impressed that the Earth actually anti progress, is in favour of access. What's wrong in my opinion is the other's access auditing.

And the technology are too often have too much of it, at least for me. Here's an example from last week: travel to go for.

From the trailhead to end can be seen with the naked eye, and in any given moment where you are. Here are John and Nimrod, Shams restaurant, greeting, Ruby mountain,

Thus all mkodoth and to communities. Our travel. He wants to see on his GPS in combination with

Map of the Internet where it is at any moment. In my opinion this kind of toy. If persist to go only with GPS and Internet here is lost

Pretty soon some of his natural ability to gauge distances, learn some geography and to remember her at least the trip etc etc, this guy needs the approval of GPS

It is between Nimrod and restaurant 1 km which is Birkat RAM. Does he feel without GPS?

I met people who have opened absolute dependence on GPS don't leave home without it, anywhere.

What do you think?

P.s.

This thread has the potential to become the thread. (Except what AV1)

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#30 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:03:48 PM(UTC)
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יענקל'ה,
If you can add another point for you,
Not only will it travel slowly opens and dependencies or quickly loses the ability to orient in space,
But the worst thing during the whole trip is a buffer between him and what he called the pure experience of deer.
The same goes for a camera that makes traveling to experience things like how the picture will look and never stand aghast about direct versus nature, the worse the isolation concerns any amount of liikim to her image.

In the foreground, like everything in this life – good and bad.
But especially it reveals less positive sides when it comes to dominate the spaces between humans (such as Facebook, sms deteriorating ability to communicate and feel in the real world) and relationships between humans and nature, that is not in the foreground.
Progress on one of the accessible to older people, adds information that is accessible to anyone who wishes, can share experiences and tours etc etc.
And the other side makes to a particular pattern of behaviour such as mastery, uncertainty, ltanati, draggable that they things pure experience maivim of the trip, and nature.
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#31 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:37:52 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yankale17]


What do you think?


As a hiker who loves nature and excursions but also the technology in all its facets, I see no reason not to combine them both. You have to remember that every choice has its advantages and disadvantages no matter what.
Indeed agree with you on the subject of GPS (and road surface) the more trusted than that lose some ability to navigate alone efficiently and evidenced the use of cell phones in school that day don't remember numbers at all (except for a few rare), which is considered trivial 15 years ago, but the question is, is it wasn't worth it and how much time it saves searching contacts. I guess the road not far from it, although I personally use only abroad.
Ditto for GPS field, if you use it wisely so you can shorten the silly talk and be better, not worse.
Just don't overdo.
In one case I think it's important to use paper maps before GPS and which has no experience in the field and explore the first few times. As has been said here, I think it is very important to learn to find your way around on the ground without accessories cut through (and there are many other than GPS) on first and only then go to Accessories.
I say relatively meager experience for others here in the Forum, after using a topographic paper maps 10 years and three years in dedicated GPS of parallel to paper maps because the combination helped me a lot in planning and to implement much hotrel level tours in small groups mainly in the country but also abroad. I for example don't even use it for navigation but rather to evaluate the distance vs. time remaining to find out what to keep pace and not get stuck in the dark in unwanted areas or in isolated cases to assess deviation from the path when there is one.
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#32 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:49:27 PM(UTC)
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As someone who uses the iPhone didn't even take mobile during, I have to agree about the thing that's kind of numb in any sense. Ditto for ג'יפיאס. This camera is also something of the past. I can't connect to it see's the journey and nature through the lens. For me personally this camera to capture a particular moment and as required.

Always a basic navigation and map reading is more important. ג'יפיאס nice thing and sometimes but always taking paper maps.

I agree completely that we need to develop basic skills of walking before you add all sorts of gadgets. Otherwise, rely on a single day can also simply not work in a situation you need. My opinion is also that enhances the experience of walking in the nature.

At the end of the day. It is standing on a glacier or La or lakes or anything like that and admire the beauty and strength. This is the most basic there is noinstrument41382.4938194444 imtl
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#33 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:32:36 PM(UTC)
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#34 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:04:46 PM(UTC)
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Went past,
Comment great, really.

But nonetheless,
Is more beautiful when demagogue or satire,
According to the comment, you're a smart guy.
I guess you know that is satire or slap but not really serious argument.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:13:53 PM(UTC)
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I do not treat soil that I think is a troll and I had to tell him I said.

But the debate on the hazarot/slave to satellite navigation equipment, digital cameras and other accessories is appropriate and important, and here my two cents on the matter.

J.p. ACEs etc.. Firstly they are not accurate. We went with three smartphones each gives a different result at the end of the section. Sometimes the difference is in kilometers. Measure walking us explained that these laplictiot very easy money conditions. In their work, for example (as stated measurements) authentication is required 4 different satellites need to be everybody in a certain minimal angle above the horizon. In contrast, applications satisfying 3-2 satellites and restrict their angle and thus distorted measurements.

Another thing you should remember to do every other device stop PAUSE keep track all the time and he related that trace as explained above each time he puts you in a different point. We've had cases that established a 15-minute rest and found that while lounging in a place we couldn't go another 400-300 meters

Navigation and we don't use it at all. Oh, it's just fun and those who build on it rather than a map or natural orientation.

However about the photo, I disagree. I find myself often indulging in pictures that I took on the AV1 in the Pyrenees or the various sections and having a great time to experience the stunning flowers and animals we met again.

Of course, like any slave to it is harmful. And repeat from section Bill with 500 pictures and above was probably busier in photography than watching and enjoying the view not through the viewfinder. But whoever loses the proportionality that just adds to the experience and especially helps to preserve it and to experience it over and over again.

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#36 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:25:52 PM(UTC)
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Threading!

Everything else has already been said.

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#37 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:32:01 PM(UTC)
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J.p. ACEs etc.. Firstly they are not accurate. We went with three smartphones each gives a different result at the end of the section. Sometimes the difference is in kilometers.



The problem starts at the beginning of the sentence, not a Smartphone GPS and originally designated specifically for space navigation. A GPS in much less serious and like you said, he can work simultaneously in front of a small number of satellites compared to dedicated GPS that can indeed across 12-16 satellites simultaneously and have read much more accurate and faster. In addition, a sample of the mobile software is very processor and software settings to the setting of the amount of samples per minute or depending on the distance.
However, like anything, can be learned from experience. Each device has its weak points and use it a lot so you can infer what revival on points and take them into account.
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#38 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 12:02:43 AM(UTC)
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And what works for no to? Duplicate steps. It's not bad, kind of like a mobile GPS. At least when I know I'm not comfortable moving.

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#39 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 11:52:11 AM(UTC)
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Don't be so humble you're not that great
Golde. Zelda's girlfriend.

To go back to it.
What bother me, especially the way you bring the stuff is not saying that disengagement, saying that neither expensive equipment is good/no good. Not saying that ...
The things I was most things you wrote are the settings that your way is the only and the rest are missing (the one true god, can open here chassidut) plus that you say "scare" people.

I suggest you open your eyes and read a bit, even here in the Forum.
Old-fashioned debate about "pioristim" ultra light suitcases with inimalisti equipment and are carrying "equipment" is held here every few days. The big difference is that all the parties understand that everyone needs to do what's best for him and what makes him fun.
Give a personal example: when we did the trail a year ago has not yet issued new measurement for I thought it fit to carry on backpack each dedicated surveillance device function will stab I so-of data and information and for me one of the greatest ה"קיקים" this so-called professional slang "To" sweat the details. For me it's more a trip level connects strongly to me and my way of living my life. Who put you to judge me? If you think it's more that, telling me the wrong way is very close to messianism and remember-your predecessor was crucified.

About what you say about Eyal (IMTL)-pick closed tens of thousands of kilometres of walking in the world. No sign indicates, I did it so testify on his behalf. If such a Club is probably where (gentle formulation after wife's expensive interference).
And I, from above the 900 km I walk in sequence in the Israel National Trail (INT) can tell you that your opinion counts a lot. Just as opinions of others. GibsonLP 41383.3712384259
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