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#1 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 3:02:37 AM(UTC)
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Hello to everyone!
I and two of my friends finished the journey to Israel last week, and felt that it is our duty to tell of an incident that happened during the trail for other travelers.

During the trail we decided to stay with Malachi a Safed-Abigail and Bud Jersey, hvdenikim, parents, two kids.
I talked to Abigail a few days before in order to coordinate and she replied in the affirmative and pleasure.
When we got home got us Abigail alone.
Our homes about three bilists.
During the evening the girls Abigail from shbilisties women's class held for weeks out of rudeness due to accommodation and other experience will have been answered in the affirmative.
Abigail White said her husband soon would arrive to take them, although unlike girls, they haven't asked before if they wish to go to prayer.
The boys returned because they are tired and would rather not go.

We went with Abigail, class is over at 11 at night (relatively late hour camping is well known), but though the experience was special and different, Abigail complimented us that came with it and prepare for sleep.

Despite the relief that was over tonight "ל"כפות from the evening over dinner, nice and a little weird but overall good.

The unusual case began at 2 a.m. When Nitzan, Abigail's husband.
Bud probably came very drunk from class, had a prayer.
He began to yell really loud throughout the House, singing hymns.
In addition, he also went into the boys ' room, asked for their camping site and demanded that I pray with him "wake up and burn with fire alukio" words.
He commented that small children and his wife, Abigail, and of course we also woke up due to noise. The incident lasted about an hour.

This experience was very unpleasant. The next day we got up and walked out of the House before they woke up, but the experience helped us throughout the day and throughout the week after finally.
We felt that this was an exceptional event and does not deserve to host people.
The next day I wanted and expected that Abigail, with which I call to apologize or say a few words.
That didn't happen.

We recommend that you do not reach them. Whoever ends the Amud settlement funds reached Miron to obtain and to sleep in the garage. Is clean enough, water and sheets.

Here's the story. Definitely not pleasant experience but it does not even measure the overall atmosphere and especially the great Angels we met along the way.

Thank you for reading.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:04:01 PM(UTC)
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Goeie not heard of before last.
Be'er ora and had with a man who set himself as a guardian angel. They also had four daughters.
The man demanded $ 10 for each entree, and 30 NIS for each water bottle refills.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:41:37 PM(UTC)
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There are many places that charge for their services.
In past discussions, who is an Angel. Today the point is clear: the Angel Bill asks no return for him.


In oikishbil there is a clear separation between angels to all the others. Other lists no such separation.

Guy Be'er ora is not an Angel. Here's what the man from Be'er ora wrote about himself:

Zohar 0525664107, hut accommodation, mats, mattresses, electrical, water, shower, WC, electric $ 35 per person.

Grocery shopping unlimited Commission of 20 per person.
Buying groceries without fee is $ 50 per person.

Laundry 30 per machine.

, Gas, groceries storage case or any other extra service fee. Please send an email to zohar1023@gmail.com

Those who do not want to use the services of the hotel goes to night uterus/copy.

To ensure that visitors do not continue complaining I asked didn't glow shows himself more like a guardian angel.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:44:27 PM(UTC)
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It looks like an innovative stationary version of what is called "GAZLEN" gazlan

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:01:36 PM(UTC)
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In "thief" won't we have to buy. Who wants a chocolate Magnum iorkeam eye pays 15 $.

BTW: the numbers you reported inaccurate. He charges but not 30 $ for filling a water bottle. Yankale17 41415.7530324074
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:00:24 PM(UTC)
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More information about Angel in Be'er ora: shining path was an Angel for several years. Was Lin people at
Free of charge, including bathroom and Internet. He was also purchasing for groceries at Eilat without payment of
The service itself, but only for the groceries.
All I wanted was a message of 48 hours in advance. He has like all other Angels another life outside.
Help for camping. The whole thing was played as common knowledge. That quite a few bilists like to call
On the same day and ask: "If you're at home, so I came in today, please" .

It's not like there are 8 light bar trail angels. They all came. After a few years he will play and stop being an Angel.

Problem: the society for the protection of nature, does not update its lists too often. Thus lay thinking.
When it comes to luminance is an Angel and that trail long ago. I told him he should ask again from society for protection of nature from updating their lists. Yankale17 41415.7546875
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#7 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2013 10:10:02 PM(UTC)
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I have to say something, I went to Israel (unfortunately not done it) started in the North and the beautiful sitting at bud and Abigail and their child (before was two years ago) and they took care to have us all well, invested, and ofwhat they stay, and the fact that poor people means and giving everything they can give to people, and we're feeling the best I can below.
I don't think we should judge people based on one event with as this event was very unpleasant, and ruining the experience that Saturday I got to talk quite a bit with bud and be awwira really good, and I remember them as one I won't forget.
I believe he stays personal and he made a mistake. It is my personal opinion, everyone does his choice whether to stay there.
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#8 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22:38 PM(UTC)
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Must reinforce the words of Moses. We were there for just over a year ago. Abigail and Bud were very nice to us. Even offered us their bed when they realized we were married. (We refused politely.)
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#9 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2013 3:24:54 AM(UTC)
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Can it be that people have experienced in other things.
We went through something that we considered to be very unusual trail Angels hand, and anticipated the mininum-get the apology the next day.

Of course I'd pick him. bilist, we feel an obligation to share what was hoino there for other travelers.
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#10 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2013 11:34:05 PM(UTC)
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A conversation with bud Jersey is confirmed, half here was an unpleasant event.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:02:22 AM(UTC)
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-Thanks for the share! I'm sure that was not nice and it is important to know about it.

However, as also your message, you tend to hear about Dr. cases negative rather than positive about, so people felt the need to balance the picture, and to report on the positive experiences from the angels.

About-call it doesn't seem so obvious, and confusion about the incident prevented her.

Anyway, I hope it doesn't reach too much about the overall experience!
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:43:31 AM(UTC)
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I hike mostly (rather high and cold areas). But trails and tracks in I do, I always sleep in the tent or outside.
What is all this "Angels? No more fun to disconnect some of the House.
Technology and nature sleep, due to set up camp each.
Fun trip or a journey like this.
And why not start along the path a symbolic price if hostels Passport Bill, and parking lots and cabins and places stock up water, food etc.
And that would be more like tourists and overseas trails that attract thousands of tourists. And make trails bike travellers. 41426.4160763889 easyman
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:48:26 PM(UTC)
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This is a religious organisation want to battle you.

You ask good questions about Inns along the trail. Now the angels are giving it for free and ispram approaching 300.
There are also quite a few paid cheap accommodations for 50 or so.
Even b & BS along the trail are joined and at reasonable prices.

About cabins or something like abroad there is talk and discussions for a long time. There are quite a few problems because
The different authorities involved: Rath, the society for the protection of nature, the JNF, sources, local authorities etc.

One day, אי"ה. Now it's more than a year ago.

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:19:06 PM(UTC)
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Yes I know that angels give it for free.
But not everyone will feel pleasant to enter such hospitality.
I personally prefer camping but it would be nice for those who don't like to be free.
And trouble the angels and not so much like a tent as I do have cheap hostel if Passport Bill like the Camino in Spain
Or year-round cabins for overnight and obtain water and food
And beside space for tents.
And it also includes the South even problematic that anyone who wants a passport gives discounts at Hostels pay amount to.
As soon as I can convince authorities the advisability to incoming tourism mainly
Then they go for it and it is important to mention the bike tourism
And develop through a dirt bike in the Israel National Trail (INT) to bring more travellers and tourists.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:26:10 PM(UTC)
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As it relates to the detailed modalities of the ways Israel is based on hosting places en route.
The riders are saving costs and staying in places, i.e. not in 650 b ILS per night per couple but
4-bed room, shower, breakfast and dinner and there are quite a few such places along the path to ways, and where there are barriers.

The pedestrian travel solutions. The application takes time, lots of time. 5 years maybe more specifically. Yankale17 41422.5607638889
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:46:32 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yankale17]

The pedestrian travel solutions. The application takes time, lots of time. 5 years maybe more specifically.


Hope that Israel will take more time. Development of the cabins wiping and harmless in the eyes (as opposed to blank fixed water ').
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:47:12 AM(UTC)
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I think so far in the Negev and the water points.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:55:25 AM(UTC)
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5 years water points.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:42:05 AM(UTC)
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:08:28 AM(UTC)
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Went excellent post reporter breaks, I think you are right 100% all about if not angels anywhere in the world or that hosts but not called Angels and all the honor they display, but like you said it has to be only when there is no other option or cheap hostel, parking, parking or camping or cabins or hostels in affordable and even showers, tents and gas stations.
I think the fun during this tour and the establishment of camp, sleeping in a tent.
Cook on a campfire (where permitted) or oalia and feel nature
I've travelled the country not enough in the Hospital where I spent most of my time
And you're right about the development.
There are Israelis who don't respect the nature and the mentality here.
Different from the rest of Canada and Europe and Australia respect nothing here of course there are others (incidentally the Israelis once had more respect nature currently dirty garbage collected 750 ton quantities at incredible tracts of Passover) and 4 x 4 ATV everywhere and terrible music.
Don't respect peace and privacy, and indeed the presence of a faucet or straight to become cabin resort in the middle of the peace if weight 650 rooms if kontanitlit breakfast just lost the simplicity of Israeli land and find the sea without GPS.
Most leisure travellers this forum definitely look like Israelis.
Ariav breaks move think like you and respect you.
The traveler.
Israel needs education to love nature and environment and other considerations and anyone who travels in the country and a walk and consider the nature and environment. 41423.6398726852 easyman
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