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#1 Posted : Sunday, June 9, 2013 10:39:56 PM(UTC)
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Who has experience with it?

I leave the Nikon at home. Take the NEX 6 with OSS genuine pancake 16-50 mm, and a pile of fringe/minors/and other accessories.
I think a serious tear lens extra will be, so in the meantime I will use the original lens with increasing angle accessories landscape and macro.
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#2 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 11:14:34 AM(UTC)
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I bought a month ago the Panasonic GX1.
No doubt the cameras without this wonderful-looking with their size and weight
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#3 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 12:38:26 PM(UTC)
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Hello

I'm an amateur photographer. Nikon D80 camera with 5 years. I have the same with 3 lenses. All camera equipment weighed more than 3 pounds. Once qualified I took my Monfrotto tripod I added 3 more pounds.

I'm smarter now (at least on equipment). I bought 6 months ago Sony NEX 6 with 2 lenses: 16-Mr.pancake 19mm 50 mm f/2.8 and Sigma's. A week ago I bought Sony 50 mm f/1.8 to replace my Nikkor 50 mm f/1.4 I with adapter.

All my photography equipment (Nex6 + 19mm + 50 mm) weighs 800 grams And that includes Neutral Density Filter Graduate + B + W filter + Spare Battery Haze. The difference in weight is so big I felt it on the first trip.

Now quality experiences. Mr.pancake 16-50 mm lens is really trash. The only advantage this compact, lightweight and a button to zoom the lens (good video). But very bad quality. 16 mm aibotim complicated and can be repaired (if you shoot RAW). JPG the camera tries to correct distortions and download them, but not to the end and cut a pretty big part what frame.

However, Sigma's 19mm just amazing! Very sharp. Until now filmed and Nikon 50 mm f/1.4 with adapter (Ebay $ 15)-focus magnet. But quite nice. Beautiful photographs. Like I said I ordered last week a Sony 50 mm f/1.8 (from B&H at $ 300) have wrap-focus (video and photos).

I am very pleased with your camera and lenses (except Mr.pancake.) Good quality. But there are also disadvantages:
-Battery-hogging that pkset all the time and not just in a slip-on shoes like the SLR cameras. And so until I logged on to Sleep Mode. With the 16-50 mm Mr.pancake any logon/logoff. Sleep Mode causes the movement of lens in/out and spends significant energy.
The Viewfinder, just a joke. I don't use it at all. Battery Eater than screen!!! After photo with any SLR Viewfinder won't be Electric. Even that of Nex. I suffered when it was switched on. All in the camera body (on the neck) makes the transition from screen to viewfinder which is not letting go to Sleep Mmode. Think is pkset all the time and the battery won't last more than a day.

In other words good lenses still have to buy. Like DSLR sensor gives pretty pictures. Battery is running low, but that can be overcome.

I would love to meet you and to show the camera so you can take and understand if for you.

Sample images: hpsach link
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#4 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 12:44:15 PM(UTC)
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Clumsy me. You already ...:) bag Sorry for misunderstanding.

So I buy the lenses I was taking something to my views as mm and 50 mm 19th from Sony and maybe 30ממ of Sigma.

19ממ + 30ממ now on sale on B&H:
$ 200 for both. It's a bargain!
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#5 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 4:11:40 PM(UTC)
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What an interesting topic.
Neutrinos would love to know what you look at when choosing a camera.
I bought on the advice of a friend (who worked in a camera store at the time) for the G?teborg Ballet Panasonic DMC ZR3.
With Leica lens. I think not bad but photos come out I really amateur.
It weighs very little but I think I can carry several hundred grams more institutions to better pictures.

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#6 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 10:13:20 PM(UTC)
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Artur,

First name Greg (Yes, my net cafes it:).) Chers

The issue of choosing a target camera or another is Sima. There is a very important factor as far as you want to mess with. How much you want to invest in learning (I don't know if you have any).

I'm very photo Nana itself. Therefore we can say some invested in equipment. There are people who invested 10 times more, but for me the line is probably lower. So are the expectations. I'm not ready to carrying around with my DSLR. That's just my opinion.

About a compact Sony RX100 that gorgeous! But really good! She has a big sensor. I've seen pictures of it. I think that is the best compact.

Along with all this, the most important photo-shoot. All my lousy picture guilty. And what's coming from-more or less the result of learning and familiarity with the equipment (technique).

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#7 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 10:16:41 PM(UTC)
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I see you haven't answered the question.
Say if you want to buy some irorles I will tell what I was buying.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:14:49 AM(UTC)
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Hello Greg
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I sent a private message.
Arthur I decided to work a camera similar to yours, with bigger Zoom camera that provides the capability of single-lens reflex camera but not the dimensions and weight of these cameras. The reason for the transition that the quality my camera, Nikon P100 it took because of the weight and large zoom (at the time), not enough to really good picture and I can't replace her lenses.
Before I had Panasonic DMZ and Chase's excellent lenses! But had problems with Ficus and rendering quality, so I moved on.
Today, cameras no shows offer the capabilities of single-lens reflex camera filled with thin body, due to the mirror.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:31:25 AM(UTC)
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You say basically that the irorles can take the DSLR cameras approaching Professional suite of point & sail
Then of course outrageouspricearthur41436.9803935185
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:52:34 AM(UTC)
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Maybe. In the market segment designed to originate, it buys today the dominance of your DSLR and what was mine. Some of them are expensive and some are less. Depending on the manufacturer and model.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:47:07 AM(UTC)
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Create, happily. Talk to today.

Arthur actually to understand all the differences, we start from scratch.

SLR Single Lens Reflex =-lumr camera with one lens. Why That used cameras with two lenses completely so that identity through one lens to see what shooting the second lens is actually one that the film camera. Figure:


These cameras are called Twin Lens Reflex Cameras that have two lenses and one mirror is used for convenience only-so you can watch from filling:



Then the cameras were very heavy! Also have two lenses to replace if you can replace them.

-SLR and lens requires only one that can see and shoot. How it works Pshot on camera have a mechanism which raises the appearance and revealing film:



Add two things here:
Shows a lift gate to expose film and this piece doagat glass Pentaprism to invert an image twice to keep it as it is.
This structure also allows SLR to see through the viewfinder (and Pen taprism) and to film (a rise).

DSLR-SLR film version of which has been replaced by a sensor.

The mirorles comes with the intention to make a small camera. The pentaprism is very smoothly! So what I did is took the mirror and pentaprism to need more. But The viewfinder is not possible! Thus began some cameras to add digital viewfinder is garbage!!! :)

The mirorles works on the same principle as any compact camera has two differences:
Big sensor) on a DSLR
1) changing lenses

The same picture quality mirorles practically and everything depends on the lens. A large part of the irorles cameras can wear the lenses of Canon/NIkon adapter. Then get the same quality in a small package

But remember two things:
0 lens SLR/DSLR's) still very heavy.
1) focus wrap if using adapters

So I bought 3 iadut for NEX lenses.
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#12 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 3:25:24 AM(UTC)
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I see, thanks for the explanation.

I will use this information when I want to upgrade my camera.

The main problem I am so amateur that I don't see a difference between the pictures in my Panasonic and finest photographs most cameras. So it's hard for me to understand why I have to spend the big bucks.
Although in low light conditions the images leave nothing but the rest of the time I'm very pleased.
Too bad I can't see how would I shoot photographs on trips if they were considered more cameras filmed.
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#13 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 3:47:26 AM(UTC)
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Check photos photographers photography nature society. In General, I recommend to members the photo lovers Forum to do it. Tours guided by the inspectors, and reserves information exchange. Very nice.
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#14 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 4:36:17 PM(UTC)
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Arthur, for example try aboch (bokeh-tshtosh whatever's in focus) as in this picture (on Scirpus):

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#15 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 4:39:29 PM(UTC)
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Although this DSLR, with irorles you get exactly the same quality. I have more pictures of the puppies of nutria games sky album: link
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#16 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 5:28:47 PM(UTC)
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Wow! Greg, great photo!

I attach my picture for instance she anikon P100 SLR-like. Adjusted loss quality upload, you see the difference? (Although as Greg said: all the screw-ups in the photo are mine, and mine alone):




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#17 Posted : Saturday, June 15, 2013 2:08:27 AM(UTC)
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Create, in my opinion:
-A toshtesht image. Don't know if this lens/focus or something else.
-Optical image Boca pretty, but still not enough detail in an image or they aren't sharp enough (compared to tsthecl on SLR storms of Otter).
Third image I liked this photo of salandra. Focus out and she didn't get my stamp black spot. Used in spot metering? I personally would angle and crop. I was trying to take pictures without Flash.

Again, that's just what I think. Everybody likes the way. I am not a professional photographer.

To answer your question, yes I usually see a difference even at reduced picture, but not always. SLR-or irorles is there something beyond the resolution of the sensor and it's optics. Because a good lens do see differences. I'd say even if you don't buy "good" lenses you use 50% of SLR/irorles's capacity. So get ready to spend some money (a lot) for lenses for a while (year 5):)

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#18 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:37:55 PM(UTC)
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My two cents, as the proud owner of a Mirrorless camera and SLR.
I work with camera in the Sony A700 and d is a complete range of lens-Sony showhouseminolta. It is an old camera "was bought in early 2008, but the truth is that its still picture quality is very good for most things. Sometimes I take a man off the Sony A77, which inherited the A700, depending on what I need to shoot.
My little camera Panasonic EP2.
Both have 12 Megapixel, but different proportions: the Sony is the film classic "grade-1 1.5 wide, height and Panasonic is the grade-4 screen width, 3. The difference? Especially in mind. As a veteran photographer I'm used to the classic format, then more comfortable to reach an appropriate composition with him.

OK, done, now.
I sell photos here and there. My images have appeared in respectable places? for example, in national geographic's article on Israel they chose a picture I took at. In my opinion, not the best, but they must share.
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Never had * ever * all photos sold, somebody bought the size greater than 12 gapiksal, although I also had pictures taken in and film scans worth the size to 15-30 gapiksal.
In short, there is no reason to even look at the amount of mgapiksal in camera.

What does taste sensor size. As the larger sensor pixels less crowded and less digital "noise" (think about every pixel is a MOS transistor, and waste some electricity that you don't need). This means in General a better image quality as the larger sensor, same amount of gapikslim. Furthermore, a small sensor with gapikslim could render a result worse than large sensor with less gapikslim. Of course, there are other factors-the camera's processing, generation of sensor, etc, but it's a rule of thumb. To illustrate: a few Phuket cameras come with a sensor size of 1/2.3 inch. In Phuket with 12 gapiksal, 13 times the pixels are packed (!) than in your my A700 camera with similar sized sensor.
This difference is reflected in the digital noise, sometimes destroying the resolution (i.e., with 21 small sensor gapiksal and not necessarily haven't seen specifics on the 12th company of the same size), extreme low-light quality decline (and then have to increase the sensitivity of the electronic sensor, meaning more ' noise ') and in need of inexpensive cameras use crowd noise reduction, which involves the blurring and makes the image look like a pastel painting.

Now, as the camera has the same size Nex6 sensor as to average SLR. The Panasonic has a smaller format, great for day shots, but no photographs. Just too noisy.
There's another little And parameter. Not get physical explanations, enough has been said that the size of the sensor (picture ו'מעגל), are beginning to see a decline in closed impair. I.e., a small aperture that gives maximum depth of field or a longer exposure, may have a serious impact on quality. Phuket cameras sometimes moderate aperture like 5.6-leads to serious quality declines.

The advantages of an SLR with me:
1. higher quality in low light.
2. speed greater focus (another otopocus method).
3. not necessary, but the majority come with most SLR manual override capability faster than most non-SLR cameras.
4. I have many lenses, the gay film.
5. a viewfinder more convenient than a digital screen.
6. as the larger sensor, depth of field. Very useful when you want to blur the background (Phuket cameras is almost impossible to separate the subject from the background).
7. a long battery life: the battery can I use large optical viewfinder.

The benefits of non-camera:
1. easier. When I go on a trip with two lenses and a spare battery, my Kit weighs around 3 pounds (16-80 mm lens, equivalent to 24-120 in the film, and 10-20 mm lens, equivalent to a 30-15 in the film). However, Kit corresponds with the Panasonic was considering it.
2. applicable to smaller sensors: greater depth of field. Easy to view photos and sometimes wildlife.
3. relevant to smaller sensors: sensor size, the relative cost increase. In other words, if we assume the film 24-120 lens and sensor size smaller for factor of twice-as in-lens Panasonic becomes 48-240. It is excellent for wildlife photographers, because they get double that increase costs, and one of the most expensive in the world is increasing lenses; But it's less good for photographers who love wide angle, because their angle lens becomes suddenly normal lens. There are also wide angle lenses of course format 2 x Panasonic, but Judea and.
4. some languages on the back, very handy in many situations. No optical viewfinder. Advantage of pocket cameras.
5. as the sensor is smaller, easier to manufacture lenses. Physical reasons, as glass grew, the likelihood of distortions. So you can get a great lens at a reasonable price, which arises especially because much easier to produce them.
There's more, but I think these are the main considerations.

Today I'm taking primarily SLR camera because I have it because I have my contacts in Greece in Israel and I am willing to pay more for that price, although sometimes it makes me a little income. But if I now coming to Appalachian spring, PCT or the route I'd take camera with smaller sensor and buy her two excellent lenses and peace for Israel. Landscape photography otopocus speed is irrelevant; Also a high sensitivity is not needed, because you can do a long exposure and not running anywhere. Thus the weight, and the ability to obtain excellent quality at low sensitivity photography, becomes a significant factor. Manual control is annoying, but in order to save almost pounds on a long journey in which the photo is not the main goal, it seems a compromise.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:09:38 AM(UTC)
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Yagil,

Agree with you. I encourage you to look at a series of NEX. If you can live without M completely (i.e. A or S), so that's great! Written quality and you can use the lenses you have.

M a bit cumbersome because DIAL added. DIAL way is narrow, but the speed DIAL MENU's way exposure. Very uncomfortable for me. All other konterolim very successful. There are 3 buttons that you can program to suit your needs (I put MANUAL FOCUS and SPOT METERING).

But like you said there is no optical viewfinder!
For six months I didn't use my DSLR. I know I should sell it, but I kind of like it ...:) There is no doubt that it is more comfortable to me.

In NEX also has a video that I have him on a DSLR (sleep wasn't). Amazing video! When photographing children playing with my 50 mm f/1.4 as the movie:) olivodi
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