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neutrino  
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 12:58:23 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

The topic may be a little overtalked but I want the same adein.
A week ago I slept near an abandoned military camp lines of Lutz. I used the tent, mattress and platib km The North Face do not remember the name but it was Comfort model 20F.

It was really really good. Not hot. Not cold. At 8 pm, so certainly went away. As someone who is thinking about purchasing quilt (though not for a while) and want to use it, I think it's a little overkill 20F. But still I wonder how come the bag in question was so pleasant.

True, the place where sleep was a bit beyond 1000 se across the sea. And ... Maybe the rating engine temp of TNF not so? But, the middle of the summer!

My question is to invite 20F or 30F?

Another question is about the mattress. I'm pretty happy with platib. I thought a simple platib to Z-Lite Termarest. I know that is very popular. Would you be comfortable using quilt? Its surface in the form of egg carton. Someone tried to sleep on?

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#2 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:21:36 AM(UTC)
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I think the zlite, after two weeks of trip is completely compacted and returned it to REI. They have another one end weighs about the same only more bulky to pack it, good RIDGEREST holding up relative to platib.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 2:15:32 AM(UTC)
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If you invite only so Israel 30F quilt will do!
I use quilt country that's enough 40F even in winter.
The country's warm most of the year is here and winter is mild compared to Europe. So shouldn't I think 20F experienced traveler need summer summer quilt 40F might be enough to land every year in winter to add Leiner as ל20F and quilt Khan
Although it could be cost-effective, 30F
And can also (not summer) and h.
Abroad also depends on where 30F enough.
For winter or mountain trekking and 20F might 10F venues
If you can do well if 30F liner in many places depending on the season
I think the country's best 40F quilt this year.
It's not ש"קש this quilt can unwind and 30F is definitely what should Israel too hot.
Khan is already depending on where or when but it's good to 30F to Europe and New Zealand, and to the East is excellent for most of the year in high mountains have 20F depending on the season.
Why not use an inflatable mattress more comfortable and easy ink as
THERM A REST NEO
Of this platib. And LIGHT Z also uncomfortable. Easyman 41441.0177662037
neutrino  
#4 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:03:26 PM(UTC)
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Me is platib. And to tshkacho that is much more durable. Don't need repair kit. Maybe snowy places winter take the NEO AIR, but in Israel? There are many desert sharp stones that could perforate it then sleeping without a mattress.

About temperature ratings. That's what I thought. Enough 30F and if so hot summer open. But instead of an annual one week ago winter will be cold. Don't know if 30F. Again I slept in a sleeping bag 20F (closed) in mid-June! And was very comfortable. I wouldn't want to sleep that night something like 30F.

Buy 2 best but this might be a bit expensive.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:49:36 PM(UTC)
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With a thickness of platib?

Like any system, even a set of equipment that is measured in the weak could be you had a borderline because no mattress.

I walk the marble mdergis Julie's quilt as 20F, and is great for winter the desert. A little more warm nights is very easy to sleep-fan fun quilt.

You are going to use quilt abroad?
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#6 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:31:23 PM(UTC)
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Yair

The apshtim platib is one of 2-2.5 cm thick.

Would you recommend a 20F kovillt? I am going to use it overseas but not in the near future (children).

Thank you!

Gregg.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:46:48 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = neutrino] Yair

The apshtim platib is one of 2-2.5 cm thick.

Would you recommend a 20F kovillt? I am going to use it overseas but not in the near future (children).

Thank you!

Gregg.


You travel this summer? In humid areas?

Let's say I wasn't asleep in her lodging, most of my trips are past seasons/winter, and some of them. I haven't had too many heat-Max find hand/foot or not cover torso.

If you are traveling through the desert in the winter I would go with-20F and weight supplements are not equal and large in my opinion.

Keep in mind that you need a good blackest night cold and warm hat.

neutrino  
#8 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:25:41 PM(UTC)
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Thank you

So indeed 20F. What is a good mattress? You are going to bounce?
How sleeping straight on a mattress? Without Miller? Or that some piece of cloth?
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#9 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:43:15 PM(UTC)
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Best TAYVEK under the mattress. Isolated.
Keeps moisture and fat.
Very easy and quick dry hard ground sheet for mat, or under a tent or tarptant.
Not recommended for use when the tent or
Because breaking cover. To get on EBAY or AMAZON. Not expensive by Pete + $ shipping
Comes in 2 weeks. Easyman 41441.8841898148
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#10 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2013 12:59:42 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = neutrino] thanks,

So indeed 20F. What is a good mattress? You are going to bounce?
How sleeping straight on a mattress? Without Miller? Or that some piece of cloth?


I sleep on NEO-AIR, with clothing.
Usually the NEO on thin platib (7 mm-serves me also pauses during the day) in the tarptant.

If you're comfortable with platib of 2-2.5 (it is considered above average thick, so well has advantages and disadvantages for each option.
Yagil  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:03:00 PM(UTC)
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Recall again that standard temperature ratings based on a series of assumptions:
1.
2. good food.
3. and healthy.
4 and sleeping in a tent.
5. on a mattress.
6. with a layer of clothing. Including socks.
7 and he is not especially sensitive to cold.
One of those parameters, and rating changes wonders.
You could be feeling the cold then have a km isolated; It could be that your bag after a few years of green, then his little temperature rating because it no less air time; Besides, the ranking of TNF in the past was known as a bit too optimistic.
neutrino  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:04:39 PM(UTC)
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Yair, yagil,

Thank you very much for the input. I decided to go to 20F. And Max. Get a sleep in the desert because of the astronomical observations which I attended. I dated a lot in all seasons. Looks like a good option so quilt because it covers wide ice temperatures.
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