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#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:38:38 PM(UTC)
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Hello

I wanted to ask please what really needs and what just trying to sell me.

Flashlight with red light-they say you can see Red Army night less than whites and say the opposite, so it's important to rescue. What are you? You can skip the red light?

Escape blanket — it really keeps the heat? How to bag? How do we use it? Out of the bag? In the bag? Whether liner, a body-liner thing, or a bag-liner thing? If placed outside the bag is not torn in spirit? It safeguards? Metal- There is a difference between the money and the gold

Rope-rope in the Israel National Trail (INT) or pzzor cord short enough?

Fire-sticks? And how to light a gas burner with (have a hand free to tap for gas).

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:39:50 PM(UTC)
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I think it's important, long string that can hold your weight.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 6:10:59 PM(UTC)
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Hello peoples,

Flashlight head regardless of emergency extension have a flashlight:
1) If you do not make a place to stay in the light
2) camping, cooking in the dark.
3) entering the caves.

So. Red light not hurt (but less offensive) in saw. For example, in the light of a full moon could travel without a flashlight, but if you want to cook in the Moonlight won't be comfortable. If you want to preserve saw Red Lantern light night and cook. Then you can see. I use red light! Because I like astronomy and taking a very dark site of (mostly South or West of mitzpe Ramon) I use a red light. If someone is blinded with white light cannot see objects in the sky.
Along with all this, you might not need light. I don't use a red light because you saw tours reconsiders night and lantern on stilts that have campgrounds on no saw.

Escape blanket. In my opinion the country is meaningless. Dead weight. In Israel there is no problem to find someone in distress (cellular reception almost everywhere) so the point of signaling distress is irrelevant. Heating- You have? Why this quilt better It can help when you and you rthob how to dry off. I personally don't see it useful item.

Rope 3-5 SE seems enough.
Fire sticks. Again, in the country to get hardship but possible. The Governor fell in the desert, which broke. And phone. What can I do? With a broken hand won't be able to use a stick. But you can easily get a fire thing (tried): Amazon



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#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 6:18:40 PM(UTC)
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Ely, I didn't see your response. If the route includes steep ascents/descents or very smooth surface (degrees). Yes, but it doesn't seem to use it. Good for drying wet clothing hung and another million.

The way my survival kit also includes all the first aid.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:00:08 PM(UTC)
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Thank you very much.

From Roger.

Flashlight with red light the red light really intended to see better, and to be seen.

Escape blanket – please refer to the questions and explain how to use?

Sticks of fire-an interesting idea. If both spark plugs one is other laminated and elsewhere?

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:26:55 PM(UTC)
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Hey Greg.
I think it's long string well that stays in the bag and walked away. Like you said, it can be used for everything from hanging in shpzurim grottoes and repairs of the case. And also not anticipated track where significant, slight deviation from the track can produce a situation that is almost amithr lifesaver. And it's not especially heavy item, it's amazing how few strings triggers can hold
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:32:56 PM(UTC)
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My 2 cents:
In the land almost anywhere there is cellular and in most cases you are not farther than a few hours from any settlement.

The base is accidentally bad (injuries, destruction of critical equipment etc) I cut to nearest city/available if things get really bad rescue.

And so I think all the list only one point this flashlight head.
And maybe a short rope (2 metres enough) but not too bad ש"יכול to hold your weight (it's expensive, and it has no point if you don't know how to use it).
See no reason to just escape blanket weight. The quilt is intended
For extreme cases and should avoid hypothermia.
The chances of reaching this country approaches zero.
Sticks of fire-again I think more regulation 2 lighters are simple.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:38:43 PM(UTC)
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People, red light, not to be seen. In fact you can hardly see it.
I think two lighters will do the trick. The simple Sparklite.

Eli, some others recommend I don't take it at all. I thought to add but do not know what exactly.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:48:43 PM(UTC)
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Quite agree with Maureen.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:56:45 PM(UTC)
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Sorry, which is very important-a whistle.

I'm convinced it's worth taking a whistle. An example of a scenario where she could help you fall again both feet. Even if you have phone reception then you seen yet? PAOs SOS and then easily find you. Read stories (100) who saved many hikers and whistle voice helped them greatly.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 12:31:50 AM(UTC)
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Moran's right/a: just add:
1. use of blanket travel escape * which * sleeping bag. When you have a sleeping bag, you can get into it. Moreover, when seeing other people, as part of the first aid kit in my group, but not necessarily when I leave alone.
2. whistle absolutely and definitely.
3-I haven't had a need to compromise for Israel. Have a rest easy and relatively strong, but is mainly used for loading shells when I want to go down with the rope/rope ladder, and it's not * really * essential.
4. can I take a torch red cellophane and turn every light in Adom if necessary, no need to choose.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 12:36:38 AM(UTC)
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And of course don't forget my hapzzolis and Caf?, it is vital the square you marginally less powder in taliit!
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#13 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 1:19:43 AM(UTC)
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Yagil, what is hapzzolis? And the other thing? I just Hebrew.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 9:26:28 AM(UTC)
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Thank you to everyone.

Strings, whistle, flashlight red cellophane I got head.

Mirror were taking a small mirror and signal? There are metal.

Comforter-escape to Earth. I ask also for trekking in the mountains. How do you use?

Thank you

The powder, I taliit take powdered.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 9:35:49 AM(UTC)
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If you travel alone, I would look to get inside after eating Thistles:) tzbers Or anything else (all kinds of small wounds on my face). To signal it doesn't help. I wouldn't count on it and take a look.

There are many easy alternatives. Emergency kit has a hard disk of a laptop. The puck really smooth and reflects very well! Weighs 4 grams. And there are also black disk as a signal (through looking at a plane/helicopter.
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#16 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 3:07:55 AM(UTC)
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Atliit-powder anymore, especially in the Negev.

Escape blanket made from two sides-one (that brings heat/light) and the other dark. To protect yourself from the Sun the silver side should turn out.
To warm up the cold, silver side facing inward toward the body.

Again, it is not so necessary for miles to trips without km I take either one.

By the way, the most important survival gear is common sense (built much experience). Everything mentioned here, nothing really "survive" in the Israel National Trail (INT) (except maybe a whistle and a thin string that doesn't weigh much and nice to have).

Your questions indicate that you don't have a lot of experience in long walks and I advise you not to travel alone at first. When travelling with someone else less importance to this item or other escapee (and sometimes also have backup equipment damaged, e.g. lighter stopped working you can ask an author).

When you've amassed some experience to know only what is essential and what you have is less important.
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#17 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 3:38:44 AM(UTC)
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I also don't see the point of survival equipment to most Israel trail, except for the desert.
This is because most of the time you are close to the cell phone is a great invention if spare battery will serve you in most cases.
When I took a blanket out but now I take it only during winter, optional external cover and lightweight to make bag if really cold and moisture protection.
A safety and security reasons, after the settlement of the other South East takes always set includes: thin string tied as a ring neck, long chain hanging from the side of outer casing secured and placed in the network. About currency led flashlight cutters (buying Tin extreme, 10 PCs a couple of dollars very effective), a whistle of FOX, and a tiny compass + temperature gauge believed Comet sonto's type. This signaling frame + backup flashlight {don't forget the flashlight head btramil}, navigation, exploited. If you throw a night for leveling high, say in the desert and broke a leg etc. in the field can hang the flashlight on something high and light. See you. And unlike the main use of this identification and safety light behind my night road side walk, I had more than I thought. If something really dramatic happens can leave the backpack, hang the cord to go where needed. All that weighs a few ounces, and in my opinion there is no need for more than that, and it only takes in an area where there is a security risk or the physical is the original patented arcont mine and I'm very proud of her!
Beyond that, any experienced hiker take any topic packs and equipment repair. Some of the most olterliits take walking stick tape to repair the equipment and body together, sewing thread with a needle.
I think it makes no sense to spend a lot of money in these schemes. They must be very simple, very easy, most products can be found everywhere, and very reliable.
Every drop or one long area with potential risk, Ltd. is always in the backpack. Weight 60 to 100 grams, depending on the route. Contains some items and is designed to stop bleeding until help arrives, or treat common problems such as falling open wounds, sores, diarrhea, pain, etc. RA system is "stolen" and weight should be careful and use more knowledge (triangle replaces plastic ח"ע, for example). As a team on a roll, yagil takes a little longer but not much more.
Repair Kit-after years in space, the ideal for me, here are a few small items inside a box of spices 50 g, a round plastic cover with screws. Tired of it after hitting thick bags themselves, opened or torn. Weighs 30 grams with its contents. There are also 5 meter wire plastic shims: very easy to shoe repair, or tying a wide or corner contains a stone etc. Usually after use, I treat him as a one-time equipment and consumables. I used to take 3-5 meters from the rest but stopped because he had no use, if you are afraid that will come with lanyard-good and disposable with round stone "piirstic" local version only the gas that enough to ignite instead sparks and Dan wool. In addition to replacing emergency matches and all have light or spark will spark even when not counting. To start fire often use what's in the piirsterterim area but they rattled my snippets of thin, inner light and slippery even weigh almost.
Always got a Switchblade knife-a little vizeri as dedicated a tree or a simple knife and quality, MOORA 11$ 's u.s. trained person can do wonderful things, especially survival situations. Prefer lightweight knife carbon stainless steel blade for soft hard and expensive modern because it is much easier to grind it out in the field and is sharper after the foot peddle, and weigh less.
Over time, purchase experience. General advise to unnecessary items, also in terms of hassle, even in terms of weight and money. Work on useful dialog items whenever possible {but don't flinch from two different products if needed}, efficient, reliable and simple. The most expensive item is the discretion and common sense and can prevent most emergency situations, just not get them in the first place. 41460.0501041667 tzurlis
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#18 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 10:52:23 AM(UTC)
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First of all, thank you all for seeking answers.

Get everything you said, especially on common sense.

Shows-think I look (by then end of the season of forgotten, I don't like).

Getaway-comforter realized that only if, despite the cold, or wet. Then wrap the outside of the bag, and fold the bottom not run? It make a sound? It snapped?

Study on temperature compass saw Keychain with both together (of Silva or Slava I think). Know It is trustworthy? You can rely on? A small compass authors watch worth? Also the clock all the time for me, so maybe it's more comfortable?

-Haven't read enough so that no more what to ask and contemplation.

Thanks again.

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#19 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 12:03:07 PM(UTC)
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Compasses in this level are of Silva, sonto & rocket. A watch strap code isn't very accurate. Sonto and rocket, Silva is not always very good, and after a few years to be exact. Search model, sonto's commet is accurate and effective. You can navigate even with azimuth level back. This is the compass that I put in the survival kits of groups or delegations of the most difficult regions of the globe.
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