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הלך עברי  
#21 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 12:59:42 PM(UTC)
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#22 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 2:03:24 PM(UTC)
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You never know when you need it until you need it
Some escape blanket uses and it weighs less than 100 g.
1 as an escape fire blanket.
2 as an emergency blanket.
3 a ground cloth to the tent or under.
4. as a means of signaling.
5 can be used as an emergency shelter.
You can get emergency BIVVY is used when the emergency if wet that
Can also dress up to protect it from damp cloth better breathing
Weighs about 150 grams up to 220 grams as the blanket can be used to those things.
Rain poncho or Cape is also used for shelter or tent ground sheet
And emergency signaling and water storage and water evaporation.
It is very important for chopstick fire turns in the rain too.
Strong emergency whistle.
Signal mirror
Magnifier for fires and other applications.
Cotton.
Basic first aid + anti diarrhea, vomiting, Tylenol, and bullets against altitude sickness when necessary (do not prevent the disease but only slight symptoms decrease in height to prevent the disease and cure it).   .
From at least 10 m + 10 meter rope.
Ortlieb ldrman. or Gerber from Swiss or models.
Includes scissors, pliers (important if you encounter no faucet handle) bullish trend
Corkscrews and screwdrivers.
Head torch to light better or simply take ntznch as bicycles and CORDLOCK or little lantern flashlight led to backup.
A compass and a map. (Do not rely on GPS only).
Press filters for filtering water purification tablets +.
A basic tent repair kit and equipment including sewing kit and 10 m
Rubber beading in case a broken tent pole you want to take as little Silicon adhesive tube E6000 weighs 20 g + a little duct tape
Welcome to this iikoplest clogs and all the problem can't get it 40 easy to roll.
Small fishing kit some hooks, buoy, and fishing.
Small magnet
Manual to charge cell phones and so on.
Alkaline batteries.
A neon stick.
A bullish trend.
Reflects half reflects light and useful 25X10.
A small bell to tie to.
Earplugs in the Israel National Trail (INT) and if travellers.
Survival bracelet includes a whistle has on eBay or some Member Forum
Who sells this search in the Forum.
Places if bears get defensive spray.
Nets better 100% DEET, mosquito bracelet and a hat.
To distant places or longer treks without settlement places close.
Or even if settlement places.
Better to take an emergency beacon satellite signal and sending messages and even shows your position in Google. SPOT (there's also a SPOT that connects to a smart phone and a satellite $ 120 including shipping on eBay).
(Please note that some countries prohibit satellite communications in Egypt or in some area and on these devices to find out before you take that it can lead to ban the device to heavy fines and more.). Price $ 100
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#23 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 5:45:21 PM(UTC)
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You never know when you need it until you need it
This is exactly the approach that brings people out with 25 kg for walks!!

I'm sorry, but about 3/4 of your list (and I stress again this is just my opinion) I download without thinking twice.
For example (and a large part of the world) you can do so easily without a water filter, without escape, bivy blanket, rope 10 m fishing Kit (?), spot, etc.
No one here is not bear Grylls looking to land in the middle of the Amazon and to manage.

Moran
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#24 Posted : Friday, July 5, 2013 5:52:55 PM(UTC)
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All my survival kit including the all-inclusive BIVVY weigh 500 g
Even less, including first aid.
Not including ldrman. GERBER DIME weighs 62 grams.
I'm talking about PRTs weighing 40 g
I worked and I studied a lot and I tried many products and weights
Until I got to the set.
Soon came up with the list if the weights.
And I suggest all travel to learn from griles or Nadine codes
Possible need for survival anywhere in Israel
Especially in the South.
Not to underestimate the forces of nature and explore if excessive confidence if will be fine.
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#25 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 11:45:33 AM(UTC)
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I knew the issue carry us those arguments:)

I love that you access through various scenarios of emergency and find them a solution with the equipment. So first of all know what to do in every situation and don't take a lot of unnecessary things.

In the showdown, the most important item that a cell phone. With what's left it imitate until (!) hours to be rescued. Say you're in an area without a signal. What you need to do is go to some. Then here came in emergency equipment.

Worst case is if you fall into, you broke your hand and/or foot. Must take strong pain forgotten in order to be able to go anywhere. This is just to call and help azick Extra water and food looks not bad interview. I also take spierim but not much. The wilderness planting seems not so relevant. How to burn?
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#26 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 2:05:43 PM(UTC)
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Even in the eyes of the less relevant land fires, mainly because I almost never cold here into dangerous. And, if you're smart, signalling no reason you searched over a very large area Chamber.

For strong painkillers, what take? What is recommended? And effectiveness is not in doubt? Something that will dull the pain enough where you?

And why up to 10 hours If you have water, I guess a lot more?
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#27 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 3:41:48 PM(UTC)
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Thank you very much.

First of all, you're right. I'm not going to do that. I don't cut, going for only a day. Questions in case something happens without planning.

Embrace the fuse with a whistle, flashlight and a compass.

If you can please a few questions about what you wrote.

Tiny Flashlight I saw there in large networks, prices $ 100 and more. Where can I buy cheap and tiny online? Throughout Israel on? In selling all sorts of things? Pharmacy stores?

Compass temperature gauge if Silva unreliable, found one real cheap kmpadaon's. Know It costs $ 8, you might want to buy just to try before. Not good, looking for something else. What is your opinion?

Ortlieb-sounds pretty compelling, especially to open faucet. I checked other catalogs, and I saw that there are lots and lots of models. Large part, connecting to the hardiest part keys. The question is what must be Standard screwdriver blade brochure and Phillips all have almost How about scissors? Dedicated Decker? Something else?

Escape blanket-silver and gold-plated. What's the difference? The IDF has one side of gold and silver, so which side heats and which not?

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#28 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 4:16:15 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = moransh] you never know when you need it until you need it
This is exactly the approach that brings people out with 25 kg for walks!!

I'm sorry, but about 3/4 of your list (and I stress again this is just my opinion) I download without thinking twice.

Moran


Me too, except Bell on your backpack, of course (?). Reminds me of the cows graze in the Pyrenees.

Ami-silver side is one that brings heat-see my explanation above.
Why not buy a small flashlight online? The price differences are very significant. HarmonicWave 41461.5550925926
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#29 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 5:31:45 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the reply.
I read your explanation, don't blow (seriously, I read every word in the Forum, and learn a lot from everyone).
I ask because I found a catalogue of a particular network one blanket covered by aluminium silver and another blanket covered by gold aluminum (more expensive). Which is confusing because if the heat before, why should Golden blanket? What does the gold plated?
She might have this party and that although it is not written, it covers of the medics in the army. Why invest in gold if he does nothing? You can leave it without icing, probably cheaper to produce. Gold is still doing something that's not making money.

You're right. On the Internet you can buy things there, or have expensive things. If you need something cheap and now can be found in the country without waiting at least a week and then spend time in, so why not? Flashlight button is just a backup, so head Lantern shouldn't mind a brand that worked thousands of hours, like the networks. Always try to sell the brand and maybe rightly so if that's. So I thought there must be other stores which question.

Thank you.
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#30 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 5:41:16 PM(UTC)
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An excellent backup cordlock
Escape blanket of SOL the best silver lining in Orange.
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#31 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 6:53:28 PM(UTC)
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#32 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 7:11:26 PM(UTC)
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Recommend or WRITE book IN RAIN it's WATERPROOF
Kick's interiors used by astronauts at NASA
Writing advantage in every situation and also rain and writing.
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#33 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 8:52:25 PM(UTC)
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Pencil writing upside. (And what, for heaven's sake, when you want to write?) Ely 41461.7451851852
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#34 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 9:10:13 PM(UTC)
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This space, astronauts and pen where there's no gravity
Therefore write space upside down.
This pen is great for divers and for those who want to book write underwater
I use it in the rain and wet field trips. 41461.7578935185 easyman
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#35 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 10:53:02 PM(UTC)
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There is a story about death that is associated with this pen!

When start shiloachim to the Americans that space pen writes underwater weight conditions prevailing in a spaceship.
They formed a team, and after six years of research and development and $ 12 million, were able to produce ink pen writing in terms of underweight, write about any type of material including glass, provided the temperature varies from 20° c to 300° c
The Russians, however, threw trash and pens just provided for their astronauts pencils

Represent faithfully the discussion in my opinion:)
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#36 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 4:31:46 AM(UTC)
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Moran, an interesting story and set the American and Soviet approach. But I think (not sure) there is a problem of the pencil graphic may enter the lungs (no gravity). For the same reason, for example, no astronauts to eat bread because regular crumbs just flying in a spaceship and danger.

About pen, pencil, indeed do the trick. I don't think write metal for water or rain. If I write something so that already in the tent.

Go back to discussion. The points raised. I do the same thing. Print maps of Cologne at the parents and friends. I'm not checking the latest phone numbers but agree needs to be done. Sunrise/sunset times I usually know that deal with astronomy.

The simplistic calculation means following:
The Moon takes 30 days to make a complete rotation, right here and this simplifies the math.)
360 degrees, divided by 30 = 12 degrees per day.
The earth rotates on itself 360 degrees fast day. IE 360 divided by 24 = 15 degrees per hour.
Hence, the moon shines on December 15 (48 minutes).

Allow precise and moving into consideration, taking into account the rotation axis hatiit at 66 degrees, the eccentricity of Earth's orbit and another million, but leave It's a pretty good approximation.

BTW, speaking of astronomy, helps to know your way around not only in space but also with map.
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#37 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 9:25:02 AM(UTC)
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Pillows, no I'm not going to go that way (+ 250 g). And I think country has almost nothing for survival: mobile & partner.

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#38 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:13:50 AM(UTC)
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With respect to the land of Israel-beautiful
And it's really beautiful and I a few years in the country.
According to responses in the Forum know what shouldn't trip to the Holy land.
Tent. (Respect at all for what's hot, and rain).
Mosquito net. (There's hardly a mosquito noises).
Flashlight (for iPhone).
Ortlieb. (What I'm kgaiver just need a can opener).
Pen and Notepad writing equipment. (You can type on the iPhone).
A coat in winter. (Which is hardly here winter rain).
Have clothing shirt and pants and lower body evaporates. (Here).
Gore-Tex shoes in winter (water winter barely there).
First aid equipment. (There's enough communities everywhere a bandage).
Survival equipment. (How come Amazon?).
Fishing system (The fish time escaped map).
Repair Kit (just got the liver of a bandage).
Water purification equipment. (Who needs it is missing?).
A compass and a map. (Maggie GPS).
From what I understand do need to shell country 20 or 30 liters
Some canned tuna or hatched and Keith Bamba.
From MIA or small locker.
50 ש"קש weight or has 39 operation.
Type platib. (19 in).
A broomstick to solid wood walks.
Hat sucker complacent even sunglasses.
5 k camera cameras and a tripod.
And most importantly, אייפון5, iPad, iPod, Google goggles bogey modeled the latest GPS and of course batteries reserve all the equipment and be fine.
Well I mostly travel and taking ה"נל and equipment like electronic equipment only small camera (I wish the cameras disposable sharp) and need to be mobile.
From what I understand Israel is heaven for discerning travellers or olteraliit or digital (if lit screens travelers 24 hours).


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#39 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 1:25:29 PM(UTC)
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Nice discussion here evolved with two different approaches are recognized:
The ashrdatit claims that the value for the worst and therefore brings all sorts of means.
Some really cool and useful and some just seem cool.
The second approach: aimsh emorth leave you any bullshit ".
The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

A number of my insights:

Cover:
Getaway-blanket for years I carry one backpack.
Once helped me a lot in the night putting tour with the break, twice tried to make with shelter from the Sun and is ripped and torn.
So I have a solid opinion about her but since she, could be a useful and occupies volume I still issue a blanket like this regularly.
BTW, I'm not sure the source of the rumor that is fireproof, I think she's not!

Big-bag trash can be used as a makeshift shelter for Traveler himself and wrapping equipment.
You should choose the bag harder and orange to detection and identification.

Lighting the fire:
In my opinion the preservation and include this ability.
Travel may find itself cold stress conditions for all kinds of different reasons.
Take a day trip beyond the expected, unexpected rain wetting, half or even falling back water etc.
Fire lighting helps greatly in suspected polluted dispenser, self check in night and day (by smoke), as a source of warmth and light and to improve morale and feeling of psikologi security.

Fire stick-I don't know where it's another teriind fresh means (literally).
But as I wrote before, lighter will make power work effectively, moisture conditions, and even with one hand (which is not possible using a stick fire)
It seems that ash is nice but I stick it gives a sense of back to the stone age ().
Who or on money, can be ordered at $ 1.50 includes shipping on eBay.

Cotton oosalin spirit, cotton balls dipped in wax, they are cheap and easy measures to improve the fire-lighting capability interested-in information network and on YouTube.

Water purification
All already know that especially in a land without adequate water capacity for survival and proper functioning is questionable and I do not talk about death from lack of water but also and mainly on the effects of dehydration in the first stages yet can cause many problems such as lack of balance, lack of concentration, dizziness that might jeopardize that for (steep).

For the sake of cleansing and purifying water, gauze pad, a piece of cloth — will be the first physical filter suspected contaminated water or MOP review.
Iodine-most bacteria would Sin again.
What it means in the system of the traveler.
[Using iodine-5-10 drops per liter depending on the suspected infection, wait at least 30 minutes, preferably clear warm water.
Populations have the sensitivity to use iodine, suffering from thyroid problems, pregnant women, etc.]

Cutting tools, measures, etc.
I have a Pocket knife and a iteronix model. I had no need for more.
The walks I take a utility knife or something similar.
About Ortlieb, expensive models cost hundreds of dollars and weigh quite a bit (about 200 g)
I never stated I needed this tool's capabilities (traveled on four continents and in more than 30 countries, most third world and many in the country) but if anything, take anything from the smallest.

Lighting and signalling and detection
Flashlight, whistle, fire blanket, a garbage bag or fabric color sheet controls all these and more can be used as a means of identification.
The mirror has the ability to Flash distances and may be a long distance identification
It must be remembered that even shiny metal (blade), Tin (cover removed) and maybe even so in his backpack for the traveler can have a similar response.
However I'm still not convinced of the need to see regularly, I'd be happy to opinions on the issue.

You should also pack all the dedicated carrying case findings preferably waterproof and color and his friend DrawString or strap so that it can be carried on the waist to the neck. S.K.41462.4462847222
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#40 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 2:24:01 PM(UTC)
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Really interesting and thorough thread.
Compass: akomet apparently no longer produced. He was replaced by the model, which is difficult to achieve (...) GEM, a link to purchase.

Against diarrhea: coal tablets, also clkoli best light, Imodium stomach. Nothing valuable Indian Meanwhile found a better alternative. I have 6 pieces set. Anyway preferably in combination with 3-4 cups of tea hyssop or similar to stop the chaos. Hold set me Zaatar, and Salvia fruticosa, cooking system. Also uses other plants.
Painkillers: ibuprofen. It optlgin-6 d, and something as relatively strong and naproxen etc-4 PCs. These are basically all the pills I'm taking, and six water purification pills.

To purchase led flashlight, search led photon Amazon or Ivy, or fancy with this style switch . You can also buy futon original on 5-11 $, depending on the model, I think it's a pity that sometimes you lose them and you should always have some in the drawer, I prefer ashrier case of simpler-great lanterns like one in quality.

In response to the comments of s. k., supports most said.
Write-equipment always got easy notebook and write. 911 prefer difference pentel pencil (like that used in the army), who writes about everything including rock, clear and colorful. Or graphic piece, originally written to registry. Both have crafts shops.
Izzy-Lederman, but flat screwdriver blade of the knife is affiliated with some fits in either opens the valve handle downloaded off his head, and it leaves me quite a bit. Beyond that, I have never found any use for one globe. At first I was hanging out with him and then lowered.
-Access for me, at least, India dedicated equipment replacements useful addition. In talking too long taking a plastic bag, then'd prefer orange or dark green signal. It also means if really cold water extraction, another layer of the body.
Water I am taking, but only in the desert en route a convenience-you can filter through mountains t-shirt or hat then purified chemical or boil. Trust my abilities to find or make the water emergency in wilderness one of several methods, maybe the next Forum meeting to do a presentation on it. Eat less critical. 3 days without food but not kill attenuates Anyway there is always food in a backpack that will hold me btktsov days alive.
Leaving story road for reliable third party is the cornerstones of backpacking. In Israel, I tend to call three times a day – in the morning when I leave at noon to get SMS and mobile location location if necessary {need to remember is not always there, and the need for mobile energy when looking for a connection and stops. SMS is a cost effective method of communication. Once contact is sent away, and after he leaves, I turn off the device and in the evening}, speak with your wife and kids what to do, Miss. The rest of the time off the phone if something happens is pod. If I didn't call my wife begins to worry if nothing more than half is read to extract the given axis in space.
Alternatively, if your cell phone works all the time for GPS mapping, implements the "Amtrak" method for continuous solar charger loaded while walking.
As mentioned above should adjust the equipment and conditions. Minimum equipment, maximum useful dialog. Tzurlis 41462.7559259259
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