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yaelbar7  
#1 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 12:20:46 AM(UTC)
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Hello
My friend and I (25) flying to Spain in September and are planning to travel between 8-9/21 (full weeks) in the design is based on the GR11.
Read carefully all publications at the site, the GR11 publications decided to do the piece that connects the two parks, actually from ESPOT to TORLA.
Have a few questions, I would love to help on this.
1. course number aloneli planet offers Hiking in Spain Travel Guide some pervert of the GR11 route, does anyone have any idea which is better?
2. both fit but not likely, none of us went to do a long trek, is that enough time for two weeks to do the course?
3. is it possible when we plan to explore and build on the tent? Or it will be too cold?
4. does the track goes nice towns as possible (/should) stop to rest?
5. is there any where to buy basic products field cooking (rice pasta) the track not in shacks? (Because I realized there is relatively expensive)

Pretty face who can help,

Yael Gai
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naty_h  
#2 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 5:19:01 PM(UTC)
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Two weeks is not a long time.

Considering the beautiful Ordesa and Park and at least a week why not start him Camping accommodation in Torla in the tent will cost 10 euros for two or in Italy or rpoachia Lucien at riat costs 10 euros per person per night.

Beautiful towns nearby:
Gross, Campo, Rafting Canyoning climbing of ainsa, attractions, etc.

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When you decide, get reservations can be made now that the environment will begin to go, if you stay long
I think this area is among the most beautiful in Spain if you add visit Pamplona Zaragoza and Barcelona so I didn't stay long.

Rai also carries the Ordesa Monte Perdido park planning and execution.

And tutorial videos and the environment:
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yaelbar7  
#3 Posted : Saturday, July 6, 2013 10:00:22 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the recommendations.

We land in Barcelona 10/9 and go back 3/2010 IE have time before and after to explore Barcelona and the surrounding area.

The reason I mentioned weeks Trek is because we wanted to make part of the GR11 sequentially-mostly for the experience of a long trek.

In truth, the second option was to make a Ordesa in Park and igoastorts Park week (Carros de Foc).
We discussed many of the GR11 route between connecting parks and visit each one separately.
En route from ESPOT to TORLA doesn't capture the most beautiful areas of the parks?
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#4 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 2:59:01 AM(UTC)
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Hi Yael,

The dilemma of whether to split or go one section on the G11 depends on how you want the experience of a longer route (though it's not weeks 4 days in a row).

About top questions:

3. should be fine in a tent with a good mattress. Keep in mind that mountains (especially this year) you may experience rain and hail. However, two years ago, Dawn farm Forum summer weather very August (scale).

There are many tales through the network to meet the rest of your questions (for days, equipment etc.). Basically, the GR should not carry food for more than 3-4 days, but keep in mind that the isolated cabins disagree likely to sell basic goods (bread, cheese, etc.) but offer cooked meals.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:36:14 AM(UTC)
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If you're without a car-a long one it preferred option in my opinion.
It's a waste of money, time and hassle of the daily stress bhatniidoth.

The track between Torla to espot is beautiful (some I some I saw in photos), you can walk a part of the HRP and part of the GR11.

No problem to do it in two weeks, but is not easy. Cabins cannot obtain der beyond picnic bag (and bread).
If you're the GR11 (what by the HRP) has pretty good availability of villages and therefore of foodstuffs.

Another option raised many times in the Forum is to go down to lscon, giving you 9 turla days through French National Park Ordesa.
Stay a few days available that you can explore in a day in the Ordesa.

If you are planning to go to go eastward Ordesa I recommend to buy the digital version of the friendly matches (or HRP GR11) and print out the relevant part. I have the question of the HRP-lscon to Gavarnie (from where you can continue to Ordesa-Torla) and the part which continues East to agoastorts. If you want I can upload to the sections.

Personal opinion: If you lack experience, in my opinion, rather based on cabins and to reduce the weight. Inexpensive cabins in Spain and also iithrot the need to stock up.

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naty_h  
#6 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 2:58:34 PM(UTC)
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Look at this map:

GR11

You may, perhaps faster public transport to get to JACA and from there to Saint kandanzzo de Gallego or ski resort, and then to the East than achieve Torla, a map and a list of places where you can rpogiot sleep or need, I recommend to start just West and continue East as we do here, and vice versa.

Here are some blog on:

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איתי  
#7 Posted : Sunday, July 7, 2013 11:01:25 PM(UTC)
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Join the lscon's recommendations to Gavarnie, Torla, the only thing of the hrp to be done on the basis of cabins in a row (if you're not in shape, the inexperienced on the GR10 this with not just of the hrp).
I think it's better for the public areas of the GR11.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:29:04 PM(UTC)
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Thanks to everyone for your help.
In light of the recommendations and comments that I think you've split up into several parts.

Ordesa-Torla 1 waterfall way "equina G?riz" La Br?che de Roland from there to to Gavarnie. (Three days)

2. igoastorts-route or Carros de Foc-based or based on the GR11 route I realized that crosses the Park. (6 days)


The questions that remain.
1. which is better-Carros de Foc or on the basis of the GR11?
2. are these two sections cover all locations must be used in parks? It's shorter and we've still got three days left, where else to explore?
3. we gave up the section from lscon to Torla because there were messages that claim is very hard. Is it really more difficult than making a circular route Torla? The track lscon to Torla through Gavarnie is based on the GR10-
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#9 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:08:50 PM(UTC)
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Another question I forgot to ask-since we travel at the end of the season – from mid to late September, is it better to do the first part of Gavarnie and igoastorts you?

Thanks again!

Yael
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#10 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:45:56 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yaelbar7] another question I forgot to ask-since we travel at the end of the season – from mid to late September, is it better to do the first part of Gavarnie and igoastorts you?

Thanks again!

Yael


A difficult question to answer because nobody knows how the weather behaves.
You may enjoy only one of the two parks you decide what more or harder to start and complete.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:26:45 AM(UTC)
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Mid to late September could be problematic.
Agauestorts is lower and therefore likely that the weather will be better there.

I was still in planning, and decide only at the last minute by the weather, was planning to first reach Torla.

The lscon can go to Gavarnie both on the gr10 and the hrp. The route passes through some high passim hrp and potentially problematic at this time. On the gr10 situation should be better and the track is a little less difficult.

Brush de Rolan is beyond that snowy left cloth deep into summer, also about difficult to assess your ability to cross in the second half of September-it totally depends on weather
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#12 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:01:28 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yaelbar7] thanks to everyone for your help.
In light of the recommendations and comments that I think you've split up into several parts.

Ordesa-Torla 1 waterfall way "equina G?riz" La Br?che de Roland from there to to Gavarnie. (Three days)

2. igoastorts-route or Carros de Foc-based or based on the GR11 route I realized that crosses the Park. (6 days)


The questions that remain.
1. which is better-Carros de Foc or on the basis of the GR11?
2. are these two sections cover all locations must be used in parks? It's shorter and we've still got three days left, where else to explore?
3. we gave up the section from lscon to Torla because there were messages that claim is very hard. Is it really more difficult than making a circular route Torla? The track lscon to Torla through Gavarnie is based on the GR10-


The walk from Torla to Colle del kabaio is 19 km, turla. to the park entrance 8 km and 11 km
From the entrance to the parking lot to the Cola pradera ponytail, about six to seven hours by now, for goritz about three miles a Microbe taken through another GR11 get three hours is increase of 600 meters in the path is not easy and quite a lot of nachlonim that need to cross season there are equivalent to prdera in the off season have to go or do you quite expensive taxi But maybe have partners from Lucian in hut sharayet in Torla or acamping.

The section from the far gabarani goritz all day, I don't know but turla goritz forth takes days, so planning to finish in three days is pretty optimistic, for goritz can also be reached via a beautiful road oacharlo the arazas River and in other ways such as del Rey wonders map: paja



Geass shop de can turla precise explanation is better than the explanation received in administration of the Park, the owners speak English, once you reach goritz might interest you reach a number of viewpoints, including possibly closer to Monte Perdido, at least another whole day around.
There's some beautiful trails in the park itself so that planning for five to six days is much more realistic and it is quite minimalistic and optimistic.

Here two irshurim that might help:


The planning and execution of Ordesa Park

The values in the two parks in tmonotocatt. Naty_h 41469.4518518519
shaharellert  
#13 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:17:17 PM(UTC)
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Do not be in any way from Torla to park entrance. There is a battle that leads you to the Mall itself, then began to walk.

Day 1-walk through waterfall goritz equina.
Day 2: walk to Gavarnie via de roland. From the rafiog des sraddetes took the Eastern route-Gavarnie circus.
3-day walk camping bujaruelo-there are several variations, if you are looking for a slightly more extreme route-GR10-West and then South through HRP through puerto de bernutuero.



Not be a problem even in late September that agoastorts most leave room open winter huts for hikers. You want to make.
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#14 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:30:36 PM(UTC)
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Dawn bus times to Ordesa National Park here on the post of 2011 are:

Ordesa Torla pradera the bus times.
shaharellert  
#15 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:54:25 PM(UTC)
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They depart 5.5 and in Torla. Hants still active.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:27:35 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert] coming in 5.5 and in Torla. Hants still active.


That's exactly the point, they did leave on this date but they have not yet decided where to start nor do we know what to decide, by the way, there's nothing to count on Spain's post and things change quickly and sometimes without notice, within the reserve is the way to pretty nice pradera turla and is one of the most beautiful part of the Park. Naty_h 41469.8533796296
shaharellert  
#17 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 12:24:03 AM(UTC)
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Then take a taxi. It's not worth to go section.
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#18 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 12:49:10 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert] then to take a taxi. It's not worth to go section.


Agree in part, on par but after park entrance passages that better, I have suggested a very comprehensive look should fall instead recommended in Torla in Italy rpoachia 10 euros per night or camping it costs and make some star trails that, to recall there expensive company taquesi turla called recall 4 around 42 euros if you share with other partners. .
shaharellert  
#19 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 4:24:21 PM(UTC)
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You don't need a 4WD to get turla Pando. You need a cab.

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#20 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 7:16:22 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert] you don't need a 4WD to get turla Pando. You need a cab.



I write based on what I've seen, whether in low season some when I may not have been almost nothing actually, don't you oniotrgilotgem 4 was hard to find, what happens in September I guess so there was everything, chshiitam
The truth was very different to turn may completely dead town where three shops were open, the most prestigious stores were closed and nothing prdera least 400 cars in the parking lot.

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