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omrigat  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:41:29 AM(UTC)
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Hello
Is there anyone here with experience in youth hostels? I'm planning on TMB with 13, and would love to tips and highlights, for the preparation and planning of the route.
Many thanks, Omri
(I posted the first message in a thread I TMB writes again because I didn't get there answer)
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:25:42 PM(UTC)
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What about the gym. And yours? What about when flying?  A couple of days gross? Tended to walk?

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:16:04 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the response.
Fitness: both reasonable fitness, but not a lot of experience. In preparation we climbed the Mount Hermon.
Equipment: working under the proposals here and in other forums. If you have a special offer on a trip with youth (e.g. the weight Division) I'd love to hear.
Flying: in mid-August, I don't have an exact date yet.
A few days? Up to six days, with two days of rest in between.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:26:17 PM(UTC)
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13 it has been little man. Bar Mitzvah trip should refer to it as an adult. That's the whole point isn't it?
On the other hand should do everything to facilitate it. May build over the cabin and cabin equipment carrying minimum orbit itself.
If you decide to carry all the equipment, so to restrict the child pod to 3 pounds when carrying 12-13 pounds.
Another thing, I don't think we need to start right. Rather stay in Chamonix and make one day of acclimation route point.
The rest of the walk should be minimal "by the book". To arrive relatively early into the cabin and make lots of pauses along the way.
Most importantly of course will have the Mitzvah wherever possible. Ice cream, pizza, Cola. Sumptuous tour Amnonl 41471.519375
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:44:16 PM(UTC)
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Thanks so much for your help. Do you have a recommendation for a special interest sites that are accessible from the track?
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:54:48 PM(UTC)
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Definitely. Her cute train from Chamonix to Mr. de glacier glass. Decreased iron ladders and walk glacier with krampons.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:47:38 PM(UTC)
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Omri,
I saw an Israeli family she did with the kids the TMB
Ages: 11, 13 and 17.
They said they did a lot of constipation
Take Apple's enhancements. Refuges and cards
Add thing they gave to children to plan your trip
And it increased the interest/responsibility.
Anyway they did each round on 15-16 days.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:25:05 PM(UTC)
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Hi omry

The bottom line is that it is very personal.

My son is 10 years old soon and he could walk fitness walking the TMB now with about 4-5 kg.
"Secret is that he is accustomed to a full days with a backpack.

Since you indicate that your son is not accustomed to such routine trips then you have to just try and see how things flow.

The advice of Amnon sound.
One thing I would've done otherwise I'd give up after day and goes straight to the track. Excellent idea of the iceberg was maintains cherry end.

Regarding recommendation for Osprey equipment has an excellent series of children's cases. If the child is still not "caught" height 25 Zip is a great option. Not long back adjusted. Allow it to carry water, micro fleece, windbreaker and some food.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:39:07 PM(UTC)
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I think even short treks of one week is appropriate for most children and adolescents.

Disconnecting from the Internet, Facebook, tv (whom many adults is welcome also about themselves and about their children) it is difficult for children.

In addition, kids get bored quickly and I walk in the same view (albeit spectacular) in a week will much grievances of bored/tired/when arriving etc.

Boy needs the achievement and no Trek competitiveness and achievement. If you have already and the I bar mitzvah boy to climb Kilimanjaro for example (which does not need any data type but rather difficult primarily because low temperatures and sparse oxygen) that a child can connect and show off more easily because you have to tell to friends when he returns.

At the time when he was bar mitzvah age (today officer in the IDF) planned something similar in the Alps and in the planning stage, I realized that the child isn't crazy about the idea. Instead it made an amazing trip in Eastern Switzerland (canton Appenzell) when the visitors were devoted to hiking (all Swiss village average exported some hiking search yellow signs accented times) and after lunch (whimpering) lifts style waterslides, mini golf, a visit to the nearby Spa etc.

Of course, if your child is ' nature boy who spends most of his time in various cruisers so what I wrote up there might not apply to him. That only you know. Anyway gotta think if walking in his dream come true you TMB or uses his bar mitzvah to fulfill yourself a dream.

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:49:44 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Amnonl] 13 this for little man. Bar Mitzvah trip should refer to it as an adult. That's the whole point isn't it?
On the other hand should do everything to facilitate it. May build over the cabin and cabin equipment carrying minimum orbit itself.
If you decide to carry all the equipment, so to restrict the child pod to 3 pounds when carrying 12-13 pounds.
Another thing, I don't think we need to start right. Rather stay in Chamonix and make one day of acclimation route point.
The rest of the walk should be minimal "by the book". To arrive relatively early into the cabin and make lots of pauses along the way.
Most importantly of course will have the Mitzvah wherever possible. Ice cream, pizza, Cola. Sumptuous tour


I think this is a cross-town attractions of Chamonix have many star attractions and also typical glacial tutorials walk snow Sandals everything involved in the routine and the boy challenges can position inspire him, especially with preparing new unknown environment.

The ideas of great amnun Trek, I managed to get to sleep in the cabin and return should give the child and teach him responsibility to navigate, or rather to let him lead your trip and figure out how and what is connecting to turn it on, it's another matter-filled Trek develops most people connect to trek to the right point, need to build challenges and records, a part of climbing Mont Blanc can work if you connect it boy in short is a lot more complicated than you thought. The only way you can tell the actual territory if mountaineering Hermon then part of climbing Mont Blanc + climbing courses may match.

Anyway, lighten up with the persistence and patience in the right direction here can be cut into gems video promoting Louis de Fun?s question if the boy will love you in the right direction:

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And regarding them name kite find is if you want the ozone machine. Naty_h 41471.7224305556
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:48:30 PM(UTC)
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I think the idea of partial TMB with the child is actually a great idea.
And even better would be to spice it all activities that might inspire youth. For example:

1) rollercoaster, Ice Cave, walking on a glacier
2) increase in cable car high point 3800 m
3) paraglider
Cream pies 4) and Coca-Cola.
omrigat  
#12 Posted : Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:28:52 PM(UTC)
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Thanks to everyone for the info and helpful tips
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#13 Posted : Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:55:33 PM(UTC)
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If still relevant, returned last week what with AV1 ten, although very accustomed to hiking with a backpack on my back, but I was still a child.
Some things we did and helped:

One controversy. He was carrying a relatively easy case, with water, snacks, and brass. The rest of his gear I carried.

Two, I-cares every morning [bought in] to the way which glucose available. Every time I saw that he was getting tired injected waffle-shaped sugar, chocolate, etc.

Third, and most importantly-design. Something children property, unlike adults, they need to learn how to regulate your energy. You can see it running: they run very fast Sprint, but stop at the end and therefore have difficulty with running long distances. Need to ensure at all times that they don't give too much gas to finish them. We we set rest stops, even if we grownups were still fresh for. This we learned more in preparation. Walk up to 25 minutes in a row requires a 5 minute break. Steep ascents that people left out one character introolim for 15 minutes, 2 minutes. Unlike adults, child 2 minutes is enough. Each time it's more than that, he started to climb rocks.

And mental preparation is very important to know the route, the character, the main points it, etc. Whether to show the child the exact route very dependent on anticipated the boy himself.

In General, Turk could very well fit into a 13-year-old boy, if you do the preparation. Our first boy mentioned Internet or tv once. Nor is bored. Nature provides quite a bit of interest, and allow the child to him. Not to mention the quality time with my parents, which is a significant added value. The only thing was that chshagano to the cabin, and we wanted to sit at the restaurant for a beer he'd rather curl up in bed with a book and let the legs muscles a rest.

In short, it is a good idea.
omrigat  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:12:07 PM(UTC)
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Thank you very much. A few days go? A few days of rest?
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