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sereje4ka  
#41 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:11:02 PM(UTC)
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I don't think anybody excited about discussing.
But if you've experienced, Anna treat, because young people want to learn.
Also to me.

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#42 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:13:20 PM(UTC)
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Members did a favor and stop wrestling.
I have a crush because the weight 23 kg of me and not because the 18 wet

Eli. Please concentrate on completing the report about the weight.
Can be in front of 3000 km long path were compromises on comfort
This time there was no reason to do so, and the environmental conditions even justified additional equipment
When you mount the equipment lists could always find justification and night per item
CER weight 800 g tent and immediately respond someone who can improvise Cape tent

Sergei, in light of the evolution of the debate, it's time to get reverse.
Let's get the discussion in and we won that part of it would be amazing to my photos upload and album network.
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#43 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:23:17 PM(UTC)
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Sereje4ka:

Well, I got it. You really don't know to find unnecessary things and probably not so were.
סק"ש installation" more expensive and easier "etc doesn't count as serious criticism.

Phraseology.

1. about tent. What do you need to be aware that there is much lighter and stronger tents no less and maybe more.
2,3-tsbsd comment. This isn't about money but about equipment that allow easier this recommendation. you can't afford to buy but that doesn't mean your equipment.
4. If the case falls in the water, which is quite common in track one. Put everything in a bag sealing and be careful walking you don't have 20 layers of protection and fear of what could happen anytime if you so stay home.
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6. it's not subjective, probably not. Rain/snow without a serious disease and your shoes full of Gators alive going dry them I walk with no storm pants, poncho and all sorts of various suits and moved some rain/snow storm in my life.
7. you heard about Layering? The first dated in the third wash and go. In case of an emergency to wear 2 out of 3. I agree about three kinds of method about funkier head band-Israel.
8. you start to realize that you don't know what you're talking about. Razor is a fundamental product first aid case, his goal is to take the injured area before treating bullshit you can download your hair in a thousand and one ways and it's basic equipment and what you don't, and once again a phraseology.
9. agrees.
10. because it is convenient and saves a lot of time. There is no chance of knocking book because hotels etc. acceptance closes at 5 p.m. Need to know where you're going. Stop follow hotels and you won't have to carry a guide and if you really want it, you get only the relevant pages and throw all the ones you no longer need.

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12-you probably don't know how many cows and goats. Look, I'm not drinking water in places, in other places, not risk. Who wants to please. Filter fabric and akuamira if worked in places a little more contaminated Elves then work there as well.

It is possible now to stop destroying this entry? Imtl 41485.6013078704
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#44 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:34:22 PM(UTC)
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... Double messagesereje4ka41485.6129976852
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:41:51 PM(UTC)
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I just wanted to say that your pictures are amazing and more another trek to my waiting list . But what is among the equipment.

Tilapia can you cut the thread of the story of me and my equipment somewhere else?

To me, please continue.

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#46 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:42:05 PM(UTC)
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1. truly man likes his privacy. It's personal preference. I'm not too comfortable with another person in a tent, no matter what the weight. Then slide the weight recommended two irrelevant.
2. agrees also that the original response and mine and yours all unnecessary file has easier and more expensive when f scsh
4. I personally take laying on an emergency weight of 20גרם. And then all but sealed Basque asked why so many Basque dishes.
6. not worth poncho Pant Gore-Tex and Gators in serious rain or snow. You trtav in less than an hour on the waist. I also use a poncho when conditions are suitable for poncho
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqnHv_xmK7U
Pshot poncho not suitable for snow and a long walk in the high weeds rain. Isn't it rather than it had.
8. the athf me safe and quick bat weight 15גר download portal.
10. This is a personal preference, it is forbidden to put tents in Switzerland out of camping is on.

12. akooamira it more heavy filter option. Because you need the container and then blackmail him. With filters like mine or me can drink straight from the mainstream. Not to carry water from point to point.
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:45:15 PM(UTC)
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Sergey. Let me, please continue on the topic of the thread. 41485.6201273148 yankale17
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:45:48 PM(UTC)
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You won't understand or accept it when it comes to style.
What this duty can be considered in different eyes.

And again, not just request me to transfer the equipment to another thread in the Forum. Enough to destroy this thread
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#49 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:46:17 PM(UTC)
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Eli update everything in the message first, it doesn't bother him.
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#50 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:48:58 PM(UTC)
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To me, maybe it doesn't bother us, but yes, Sergei Amnon, do please some order with headmaster Scissorhands. Ellie's great reporting. Yankale17 41485.6198958333
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#51 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:01:28 PM(UTC)
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You can't take the ensuing discussion here is context.
If we put it in the Forum that disarm supplies relevancy

But I'm just heading back every tongue of one request: no equipment issues and debate could deteriorate into a hole No.

There are three hardcore who made great trail conditions.
This is the main message of this post
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#52 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:01:44 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yankale17] to me, maybe it doesn't bother us, but yes, Sergei Amnon, do please some order with headmaster Scissorhands. Ellie's great reporting.


What exactly? Existing forum for discussions and negotiations on equipment.
Meanwhile, no one asked a question related to the track itself, were comments on more equipment.
So when they closed the track and how should go, what question.

Anyway, here's a link to kvua's post
Http://www.hike.co.il/forum_posts.asp?TID=9828&PN=1
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#53 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:05:16 PM(UTC)
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I accept your request to stop discussing.
This course provided that "style messages to lose weight and a lot don't want to elaborate on what exactly" stop coming. Because I want to learn from the experience of others.

-Note on the list of my equipment not used.
1 repair kit other than duck tape
2. first-aid kit and bandages alkoholi range specification
3. reverse jacket weighing 200 grams (which was useful to me in the night)
4. batteries battery camera book and a flashlight.
5. gloves and ears 100גם total


It would be interesting to hear the list summarizes Mali.
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#54 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:30:23 PM(UTC)
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The truth is that students mostly from personal experience and very little from the experience of others.
If me carrying 23 kg and with it so it's totally cool.
I carried a time apalazim 5 kg chicken fried of Hardee's. I don't regret it for a moment.
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#55 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:49:30 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = io_travel] all this weight issue is really bugging me. Even if we assume that I can improve this very (...) if the weight of 18 kg to Trek (with full accommodation + food and water ל"כמה" + cooking equipment accessories and another bear canister) is "likely" really have a chance to lose 18 lbs.? If not-do the shmshcl body is 52 kg (for example)? As part of the body weight according to "rules of thumb" it seemed excessive.

However, our business.   Ellie stunning picture is great!


You came to this hobby a little late age and so this is definitely a problem.
That's the advantage of being young. Learn in the army to carry weight and practice.
But at 25 pounds feels different at 40 and totally different at age 50 (age 70 sensations should ask Israel).
Like the JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION routes usually carry more than 10 kg, but also girls who met carried less.
Backpack 10 kg body weight 50 is 20% lift which is possible.
If you plan the shipments can go with.
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#56 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:35:12 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,
Firstly to follow the Forum over the last two years is amazing the growth of its message in recent months, probably because the TMB (luckily I long to TMB that I think is going to be קצ'קר No. 2)
Secondly, Koach to all users mshikiaim their activists in providing answers to questions (sometimes even after the question has been asked multiple times by different users).
And WHR, go for this Trike 3-Wheeler and I want to know if there are places to stay along the cellular free Trike 3-Wheeler.
In addition, where along the route you can buy maps of 1:25000 except trust (I know the amount of maps covering the route)
And the guys returned from your beautiful picture atriic.
Thanks in advance,
Lior
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#57 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:51:30 PM(UTC)
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Had trouble finding even maps in Chamonix. We saw them again only in Zermatt, not before.
I think maps 1:25000 aovrkil serious tracks that are marked and maintained very well, especially if you follow one of the election (which is not always done). We used two maps of 1:50000

As I recall wasn't recorded at monfort, cabane de moiry
But if you don't use gps and want to diversify so route selection of 1:25000 more intelligent. Sereje4ka 41485.8703240741
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#58 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:13:16 AM(UTC)
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By the way, also had a gas problem finding after Arola.
There was always a peanut (lighter gas Pack mtanzl degrees) or puncture balloons.
Balloons with flare not found to Zermatt.

I think the roof would be useful since there wasn't almost below zero temperatures.
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/230875659273?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

The Valley is good for Israel, Alpine stove fuel owners can use balloons to light in weight and cost.
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#59 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:34:41 AM(UTC)
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Many thanks for the info and quick response.
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#60 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:44:19 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = l. j. a. and r.].
Firstly to follow the Forum over the last two years is amazing the growth of its message in recent months, probably because the TMB (luckily I long to TMB that I think is going to be קצ'קר No. 2)
Secondly, Koach to all users mshikiaim their activists in providing answers to questions (sometimes even after the question has been asked multiple times by different users).
And WHR, go for this Trike 3-Wheeler and I want to know if there are places to stay along the cellular free Trike 3-Wheeler.
In addition, where along the route you can buy maps of 1:25000 except trust (I know the amount of maps covering the route)
And the guys returned from your beautiful picture atriic.
Thanks in advance,
Lior


Regarding the map, other maps I mentioned in dialog:
Set of 5 maps covering the scale 1:50000:282T, 283T, 273T, saw 284T 274T, in several places.
A set of three maps covering the scale of 1:60000:22, 23, 24 — were looking for and not seen at all.
Set of 9 maps covering the scale 1:25000: I have maps and books are not necessary because the set of two maps in the report covers everything.

About me-remember that was recorded only in the following locations: CABANE DE MOIRY finally step 9, and CABANE finally step 6 PRAUFLERI
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