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neutrino  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:33:25 AM(UTC)
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Hello friends,

I recently moved to area excursions run shoes. Although I run space in them (and pretty much this loft distances) I don't understand why I have used in the past in the shoes. Just stupidity. Expensive, heavy, and that's something you don't need. Running shoes are designed for those distances and the territory.
In winter it is fine to wear hiking boots, but spring/summer/autumn — just no justification.

Today I have the Innov-8 235 235 they're weighing Trailroc grams. The bdlev!

I heard members of the Forum that people still love to travel in shoes. Guys, do not twist, believe better.

Tours are fun and happy new year to everyone!

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:39:50 AM(UTC)
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I tried to order the 315, but the shipment did not arrive before I went to back away and TMB made contact with the store and they gave me back my money. Maybe next time I will actually buy.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:22:54 AM(UTC)
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I use this company's shoes for two years.
Some of the more successful models, some less. I loved the f-lite 230. I also had roclite315, 330, terroc recolite 190, bare-xf.
Any two sets in model value.

The biggest drawback is that they are really durable and not fall apart very quickly.
The weight of 235גר is of course the one shoe.

And the twist — each, in my opinion, the right to explore what he wants and how he wants. I'm taking a trip up to shoes.
The UL turned in recent years that really annoying other travelers.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:23:44 AM(UTC)
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Summer in the country.
If the backpack is easy to 9 kilograms heavier backpack needs
If the sturdy legs allow shell to 11 pounds.
Heavyweight can bend,
Depends on hard surface of rocks, mud, water, mountains.
We do not recommend running shoes.
We recommend light light backpack trip if 40 litres.
Neither protects snakes and thorns we recommend adding giiters.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:36:31 AM(UTC)
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These books, finger with some trumped-up cases in Deb a reality, things are very personal.
Some explore them at grand canyon in one day with a heavy bag (38 miles with her 2קמ + km) and felt comfortable.
Ditto for mud, water and rocks.
Liters is a measure of volume, not of kshl.


Important note-they really aren't worth the MSRP price.
So I only 6pm and similar sites assuming 70% 50. Sereje4ka 41520.3589467593
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 12:23:25 PM(UTC)
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Only high shoe can protect your feet. True running shoe ... comfortable and easy. The first injury.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 1:41:08 PM(UTC)
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I also feel it is very dependant on the weight of the bag. I just don't feel comfortable on a trip of more than a day and a half with shoes.
Also, with heavy shoes-I can go to any track-long wet dry short easy.
And not really low. And I have now just means (or rather, desire to do with priorities) to hold two pairs of hiking boots.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 5:50:30 PM(UTC)
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Serezhe4ka,
True, each choose what suits him. I just share my experience with friends. Maybe not wrote a good post, but I'm not going to push the UL. Draw the last time UL has made to BUZZWORD of travelers.

What I don't understand is the connection between shoe along the way. What is the logic? If you go in 30 km every day, what difference does it make to the height of the shoe

Its members, which injuries? To run 20-30 km it is the destiny of the shoes. Do you think btiol 30 miles per day you have a chance of injury? Why Weight?

By the way, if you travel with relatively small weights, so I think there is no need to lock.

What I don't tell it that the traveler do play here. I for example 67 kilos with a etleti (low) so maybe these factors no shoe zazavim absorbers fits me.

Serezhe4ka, where did you get those shoes? Do you live in?

Everything I wrote-IMHO.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 5:53:12 PM(UTC)
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Apparently going along a path of studying the case. I didn't realize it at first. Then again, apparently for hikers "" shouldn't go toward field Sprint shoes
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 6:20:40 PM(UTC)
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Regarding the first question and its sequel:
Likelihood of injury increases with taiifot. And his threshold, but I guess many people notice how easy it is to twist the leg when eiiphim.
So from this perspective, even the weight and the bag are a very serious factor in selecting a shoe.

What I want to emphasize that it is very personal. Can't load here for starting X or Y backs pounds pounds in orbit have serious shoe. Did the big trip in the USA and I for a minute, including Grand Canyon in one day with a heavy bag.

I bought them at 6pm.com website when lived in and through the most. Many returned to the store with a complaint about durability and got full credit.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 6:47:30 PM(UTC)
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In the short term:
Hiker/runner who once a month on the ankle tendons/support won't be strong enough if suddenly will load much larger than usual no matter where he came from (distance, terrain, weight or other) and rather high shoe and I think including socks fit just as important.
Hiker/runner who once a week or more, no matter the type of shoe, comfortable, quality and fit.

In the long term:
Ankle injuries, bone, tendons, cartilages and so caused long-lasting due to natural erosion and damage containment and therefore as a quality shoe will believe the damage caused will be smaller in the long (compared to the same weight/space conditions).

High or low shoe that not only attests quality examination examination of the materials and recommendations of people can show the true picture.

Of course you can also walk with flip-flops and many claim it's convenient but everyone should make his choice, and if you ask runners/hikers who did this for many years, most of them suffer from problems like these and others in the legs, back, etc. because walking/jogging and so as the US so there would be fewer problems. Warham 41520.6593171296
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 6:59:07 PM(UTC)
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Neutrinos, light weight. Heavier people need good support. Even those relatively weak ankle got locked. High shoe also did a spin.

Not very good at downhill and ankle not only bent, but broken. I know some cases rest months in a cast because of a broken ankle that has gone on in sports and shoe.

Two years ago, in the first trip of the season (October) I went with high ankle shield and shoe + tricks on Snake River sharp ankle ankle. Three months was a colony.

If I was with had broken ankle sport shoe. So here you are injured even a shoe. After the first injury.

Ankle injury and likely weaker coming back. Hence my recommendation: always lock. The lower priority of the probability of injury.

Not a good place to gain experience.

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 8:26:17 PM(UTC)
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All about personal support. I need to travel with as few shoe support as long as possible.
And I traveled with heavy backpack weighing myself quite heavy (90) with a minimalist shoe.

Giving it, at the beginning of my career as I travel from constant ankle twist. I went through a higher shoe. But things only got worse.

Once I started working with ankle muscles (and published a basic exercise for those interested in a thread about fitness, which is taken from the book
The Egoscue Method)
And I began to walk as much as possible with low shoe-things started to improve.

Anyone who chooses his way.
Just don't write here have high shoe, because it's just not true. 41520.7310648148 sereje4ka
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 8:52:53 PM(UTC)
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Make up: who has weak ankle high sneaker has an alternative: to strengthen the ankle. But not everyone can or wants to strengthen the ankle in the ways you suggest.

Injured ankles have decades ago and remained weak. 90% of Israel's atiilim for example are non-day travelers with physical fitness like yours.

And still are. Who has weak ankle have high shoe or risk of injury. Those who want to strengthen the ankle will be blessed.

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:12:47 PM(UTC)
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Agree with Greg. Who should push a thick shoe arch support can use three-quarters of athletic shoe. In this case the lock also provides some protection for the ankle area. It is also important to pay attention to the rock. BTW, good gripping soles with rock (high friction with the rock) wear out fast.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:23:44 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yankale17]

. Who has weak ankle have high shoe or risk of injury.



That's exactly the argument I disagree with, but I got my claims.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:15:39 AM(UTC)
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Friends,

Two years ago I began to train the muscles and moved to Barefoot running. Today I ran 25 miles in the shoe:


It's just like anywhere. Very flexible, very thin fabric top. The problem is if these shoes – no banot protection. Knocked up toe of right foot twice in the last Sprint. So I bought the inov-8. But I'm very happy with these shoes. You see, surface area. It should be an amazing ground handling sokoni

However, I had ankle problems (I ran a total of 4 years) wood-wood.

I think notha in most cases (not all) defenses to deal manihan is overrated. I can explain the benefits and iachpanot, a technique most people don't like this from Schuss. I personally know people who run barefoot helped them (moved back problems, knee pain ...). I think better to strengthen muscles and tendons than trust.

Again, IMHO
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:48:25 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = neutrino]
I can explain the benefits and iachpanot, a technique most people don't like this from Schuss. I personally know people who run barefoot helped them (moved back problems, knee pain ...). I think better to strengthen muscles and tendons than trust.

To explain my experience on why I don't like minimalist shoes (and still used water crossings, creeks, etc.)
1) stones-I prefer to look forward most of the time and below and therefore occasionally foot hits rocks and sore fingers or fingernails getting beaten up when walking in sandals/shoes others minimalistic.
2) stones-foot feeling it must be something personal that my foot is very sensitive to stones and was always so (even after a few years of beach volley barefoot foot).
3) jumping/drop a very personal aspect I feel is the best sneaker sight or not, especially in small increments or drop from a height of one foot down. And most minimalist shoes don't contain bash and the shocks are absorbed in other parts of the body.

What you said about strengthening tendons/muscle and shoe fits doesn't contradict each other, and can also reinforce good shoe wear.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:50:16 AM(UTC)
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In other words each and opinions.

I love to feel the dooch ground. The aikomis and its stones. At first I was a little bit difficult because we have to be careful, but today I practiced putting the foot where it should.

Also the foot adapts and you're not running enough careful every stone in a way. The legs do this automaticaly.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:50:39 PM(UTC)
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