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yu79  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:58:02 PM(UTC)
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Hello

After that I went for a day trip from the North (once every two weeks or three) I soon in daily trips from Phoenix and South (once a month from November to March)

I read quite a lot of material from a variety of sources, but I have already closed deliberation about the tent.
At night when the temperature is less than 10-12 degrees I probably take a tent anyway (even though I have a km 2° fit I can't put my face into the bag and Barb tent). If the temperature be higher I think I skip the tent unless I sleep at night and draughty garage, then maybe I should still take.
The question is what are ghosts campgrounds (can justify tent level) and some relatively protected Parking lots that are relevant to me this season: the parking lot between the small crater road up Scorpions, a river section, farm, Ms. Conn

In addition, as far as I know, all the sections I have clean water sources available in the middle of the track, are: from Phoenix, Oron-Oron-SDE Boker, SDE Boker-mitzpe Ramon, gap blends. If there are surprises, I'd love to know it will save me carrying water for two days.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:33:53 PM(UTC)
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Exposed to wind farm parking although there can find relatively safe corner for a bag or two.
The other more.
No water in specified sections except on the farm after a flood.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:20:01 PM(UTC)
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Water in the eye tracking and eye top and heel should be potable. It doesn't help you much because it's close to.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:29:35 PM(UTC)
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Water in bottom of brackish and eye tracking does not potable. Yankale17 41571.5624884259
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:19:22 PM(UTC)
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A little scared about the parking lot between the small crater road up Scorpions because this warning pillar:
Http://amudanan.co.il/#!wiki=P450288
But when I looked at the map I noticed another car park approximately 600 m night West of it.
יענקל'ה-is going to the West parking lot?
And just out of curiosity-is there really two campgrounds so close? If so then why?

In about the farm I guess need to filter and/or flush water after flood?
Ein akev anyway wouldn't help me much because it is the beginning of the track.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:30:34 PM(UTC)
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Just anyone published here he can do water bouncing in SDE Boker area nominal cost:
Http://www.hike.co.il/forum_posts.asp?TID=10155&PN=1
If he can give you a lot of water, it looks like a great solution.
About the farm-filled eye farm name (200 yards off the trail's variance) and the water is simple excellent name (don't think I really needed to purify). Sure, not amaayn.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:43:20 PM(UTC)
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Must not rely on ein eve! Hazard!!
There rainy season only and not the emanations of the hysterical.
I repeat my recommendation to set in by computer.
You can reach the foot of a computer inside the crater by car and soft feet and hand to plant there. Nthei 41571.8641666667
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#8 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 9:57:05 AM(UTC)
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The following recommendations are given based on my experience only, therefore it is advisable to refer to the proper precautions:

A. General comment about moving from single or dual tracks:

We should experiment first on track which we must carry water for days, or did the water overnight. Assuming that the first route is from Tamar to Auron, you can adjust the water jump the small crater.
(More information about springs in Forum search).

B. water.

Recommend to examine the issue before each section and a section, as the experience with the aggregation and skills needs, you can estimate how long it will take to get to the nearest water point, what and how you should carry, etc. In addition, the timing of the impact on the chances of finding grottoes.
(As noted, two-track Sunday should taste for bouncing).


C. in cold conditions.

In my opinion, wearing, wearing hats and neck warmers, effect on sleep, conditions of using. There are many alternatives; Dog hat, lklooha hat, sock, neck warmers, disposable layer dialog, various materials (wool, fleece, lining materials/water resistant/repellent). These lighter than a tent and of course multi-purpose. Recommend to try.

D. tent.

Recommend Search Forum on whether to carry a tent or avoided. I think you will find quite a few issues that should give them.

The camps overnight and wind facing the wind without a tent.

In many campgrounds find them eye protection walls made predecessors. Nylon can contribute. Recommend to increase the period for each accommodation maintains.


And Eve.

Based on evidence from a variety of seasons, strengthens the strong position of nthei. Also, I think fell typing error in announcement of ran, since the distance between the Israel trail is about 800 meters into.

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#9 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 10:32:31 AM(UTC)
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Also overnight parking and overnight parking farm expects little exposed to the winds.

Both froze.

Safety reasons most of the night in the Negev camps are located in high places.

Unusual is the parking lot of the Creek and there was one occur the most nights.

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#10 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 11:47:14 AM(UTC)
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I was in the eye of a farm in mid-April. Probably you're right, and now he's going to be dry, but if you arrive in the area in February-April and it's possible to find out the situation first spring (ask supervisors/Miss), I think he can be a good source of water.
(Always a good idea to get phone numbers of water springs in the area to back up)

Another questionable "source" that worked for me is ג'יפאים on the part of Israel from the morning until Arad made during Chol hamoed Pesach. At this time all the lots night filled with families, ג'יפאים, promenades, Scout classes etc, they usually are happy to help with a few gallons.

Of course the two notes should be taken very carefully-not exactly reliable water sources. Incidentally, the landfills should be careful from three landfills I did for two stolen, one including water.
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#11 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 11:53:14 AM(UTC)
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Without trying to open a discussion that the latest madivenim here in the Forum shows that the safest thing.
It took two days water or rely on bounces.
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#12 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 2:53:33 PM(UTC)
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Thanks to all the responders.

I'd be happy if someone treats the question remained unanswered:
There are two campgrounds are among the small crater road up Scorpions a 600 metres apart (as shown on map 2009 version I have)? And if the West less draughty East Baltimore?

About landfills/bounces/taking water for two days, I've read many forum discussions on the topic and I chose the last option.
She wasn't so awful to me, because I have only about 30 hours since leaving the car until I get back I can save weight (no showers, no warm water/food, just three and a half meals etc.). According to my account with water for a couple of days I get to 15-17 kg (2 lbs depending on tent).
-Bouncing had lied to make 8-ons (in addition to capzzot to the car at the end/beginning of the track I have) all the tracks or two.
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#13 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 3:28:58 PM(UTC)
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Indeed there are two campgrounds. You can find a corner less vulnerable to wind in the lower parking lot ()
Less exposed to winds. Your choice to carry water for 17 days, correct it's probably likely kg
When it comes to water.
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#14 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 8:08:43 PM(UTC)
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Take a tent and distracted from the spirit.
Nor are Bedouins or other night thieves.
Nor snakes, scorpions and other good things.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:05:51 AM(UTC)
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A small crater in the parking lot (the top above the front base up on me) very vulnerable to earthquake there, and we were able to establish there.
There's a spot right at the edge of the parking lot (technically a few meters of the border nature reserve ...) a little more protected from winds.
When we were at the ranch were at least two ghost protected areas established by other travelers. We come first to the garage (luckily) and contributed our share to add some stones to the wall.
Suggest you rethink your gear, 15 kg weight sounds not so wet with water and food for two days. Even without cooking equipment unless you have just olteraliit equipment.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:34:08 AM(UTC)
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Camping-all logistical route one stake. And a third sleep nights.
How Take a tent Igloo with. Throw in the files and nothing moves him.
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#17 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:41:43 AM(UTC)
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Is it just for you. There are situations where even if you yourself inside for all existing equipment — get in the wind like a hot air balloon. Few people appreciate the intensity of winds and the thrust acting on the tent when it swells like a sail. Pegs are a must in strong winds. Brand ofer 41580.9460763889
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#18 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:51:23 AM(UTC)
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In Israel such winds are very rare.
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#19 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 2:02:53 AM(UTC)
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Ofer, if tisachb with 4 pegs a Szent lmnia, 180 and probably hold more weight than the average person with a bag.
Tent stake of single or double or Quartet never hold more than the human body weight + bag will hold.
And if the wind so strong--and favor stay home.
Incidentally, I slept in a tent in a rather windy and rather quite exposed-on nozzle, cockscomb, autumnal night krirerrr. Today I looked in the mirror and saw to my surprise that I was still alive. Pshshhh.
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#20 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 3:10:47 AM(UTC)
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The Stratospire not stand on its own. A price for light weight.
At other times we set up the tent quite easily, just was really hard – very hard ground and ghosts.
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