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eduoxman  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:16:23 PM(UTC)
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Everyone and especially to easyman. I've read all the threads on the subject. My daughter and another 4 girls going to South America next month. From lachilot in Ushuaia and others are planning to do trekking in TORRES DEL PAINE.

They can buy/rent a tent there and that they will do more, but trekking miles also in Bariloche and Bolivia. Summer temperatures in southern Argentina, Chelan drops to 5 minimum IE 3 seasons should. It also has a good eyeliner should give another five degrees.

I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars.

Can it accommodate?

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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:35:45 PM(UTC)
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Not in this summer will be cold ש"קש is good in summer.
It is forbidden to save it here safe bought her ש"קש.
The Conference has a sale on ש"קשים Ricochet of THE NORTH FACE bought
My girlfriend a few weeks ago before I went to India to invest a little,
Around 500 model weight
Aleutian to 2S + 2 I would recommend more degrees than that but as 800 or higher, but it's definitely a linking hypothermia particularly mountains is ש"קש to + 8.
I'm currently בכ3 degrees and that of my company costs.
Always cold, girls (Meanwhile waiting for the old mlonmpuer)
Never trust a liner when adding degrees adds but intended to keep clean that. Easyman 41578.5678819444
eduoxman  
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:37:03 PM(UTC)
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And the same tent. After TORRES DEL PAINE on December minimum temperature is plus buildingat 10 safety factor: plus 5 degrees. Does the bag this tent should conclude. The second option is that they hire equipment with all the disadvantages.

Thanks for the answers.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:38:13 PM(UTC)
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Oshooaya jumped in the snow even in summer (January), Torres del Paine and situated at zero temperature. Need km.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:40:25 PM(UTC)
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10 degrees in Torres del Paine? Maybe this minimum temperature during the day. Definitely not during the night.
(But I think not bad tent)
eduoxman  
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:41:55 PM(UTC)
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Thanks isiman for the quick response and preparation. Where you minus 3?

Again, see my updated post that temperature is at least 10 degrees plus. Maybe 5 degrees plus. So it is enough. For $ 500, then perhaps Ricochet nervousness. Ditto about the tent.

Have fun and thanks again!!

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#7 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:42:46 PM(UTC)
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The tent looks good rain cover 3000 mm, weight good.
The bag will not risk her hypothermic ~
Need Winter Conference ש"קש Ricochet like I said 500 weight you buy winter, ש"קש
Excellent tent
When I was saved I bought the damn tent 3 k DUOT heavy but costs $ 100 do not recommend also rent heavy equipment and problems with it.
eduoxman  
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:48:23 PM(UTC)
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Or k. Thank you. So I invite tent. I checked again, indeed as-ranch7 type, minimum night temperatures just above zero.

Many thanks

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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:54:50 PM(UTC)
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Ricochet has special conference I also buy on eBay.
I said I wouldn't buy in this country but THE NORTH FACE's quality
And at a good price and cost 500 also weight note not through 12 or 13 pounds.
The tent to a 2.3-mile 1.5 to 2 pounds pod 2 or 3 pounds of clothing and more suggest to buy OUTDOOR shell cover
And transport flights and casing and lock be careful in South America for parts, any help in I'm still here at equipment
In waiting for approvals for boring and then eating all day. Easyman 41578.5803009259
eduoxman  
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:17:14 PM(UTC)
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And one last chance: according to this specification should, even in terms of weight is reasonable.

And where buy platib? Or isolated from mattress?

Thanks again.

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easyman  
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:25:08 PM(UTC)
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Of that can make it look good in 4 + degrees but cold comfort if a tent if Leiner and clothing can do it better
About zronplatib = pain better than air mattress search on eBay.
You seem to be focused on Chinese equipment cheaper mattresses, have
Unknown brands but the shipment a month ago you invitation border
And if there is a holiday in China ate it during the Hong Kong this means two to three.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:26:57 PM(UTC)
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Many thanks again and ...

Eduardo

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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:04:11 PM(UTC)
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If allowed to slip a Word, so in my opinion there is a significant difference between a bouncy platib mattresses.
Slightly more comfortable inflatable but also sensitive, expensive and heavy platib mattress.
Platib mattress costs $ 50 and a few nights in the field is sufficient.
eduoxman  
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:40:21 PM(UTC)
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SK, thanks for the reply too. I akacht it. I saw on eBay in China, inflatable mattress (even a bouncing only) $ 50 if it's heavier then used me at campgrounds in the country to which you can reach with the car.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:50:51 PM(UTC)
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Again China shipping time = 10% comes from 2 till 3 weeks, 25% within three weeks to a month, 50% comes in a month to 40 days
10% 40 days, 5% not coming at all.
Problematic name and mailbox is now very busy holiday in China had a mess,
There until the trip is not the time to invite from China needs at least six weeks before your trip.
The country has a tent on shekel great Chabris 600 Chinese find ש"קש in כ300. Easyman 41578.6632175926
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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:19:26 PM(UTC)
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As one who did the track in question offer like this:

There is no reason to buy equipment to land tours South America: saving travel equipment company exists is not a bad comic called doite doita (German doiter) and very low cost. I purchased two of their keyboard and single tent. Even I went specifically to their factory in Santiago-an adventure in itself.

The second track of the average traveler is Punta Arenas (before torosim) tax free area with large travelers shop called Belper. You can buy everything there (not just diota) at low prices as a port town from gear moved to the Mainland. Everything the Israelis complete equipment there.

In the back I'd buy only shoes and all other equipment buyer that will save hundreds and possibly thousands of dollars.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:58:24 PM(UTC)
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South America is very tiickra at this time.
Not cheap when it was their tent and cumbersome
It is better to buy a tent land easier difference
Not big. Easyman 41578.7188657407
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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:21:21 PM(UTC)
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Eduardo,

About trekking in Patagonia a daughter need 5 kg-temperature lower The weather in the areas in question (Southern Patagonia-Torres del Paine-Lakes region and Bariloche) not very stable and in summer there is a good chance to run into bad weather.
If she plans to sleep on the ground also in Bolivia is even hotter to km (about 4000 meters of altitude routes).
In short, you don't want to save and buy something bag temperature doesn't fit (5 + is improper temperature ...)

About buying equipment, I traveled there eight years ago so I'm not really up to date, prices and supply, there were luring more of these.
About Doite product-at least about the time they were products of medium level minus — usually generic Chinese products brand doita pasted on them (something along the lines of outdoor brand of easy-MS).
With me. 41578.7635300926
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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:04:00 PM(UTC)
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Also I say have five very cold there.
The mountains in the summer, there's nothing to save here.
Travel or Conference Ricochet
There are 800 price difficult to weight 1000
China will not arrive in time and safe.
Their quality and temperature range.
eduoxman  
#20 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:22:45 AM(UTC)
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Dear friends: exciting to see your investment and your caring!!
The summary is as follows: despite the recommendations of easyman, and your knowledge of arrival, ordered today the tent, the shcsh and the mzaronit broth. Prices are funny. According to the shcsh specifications (right or wrong ...) is minus 15.

As I said: on time, take it, doesn't come in time, I made because I stay with him.

The tip of the store from ponta customs solved arenas is important tip. They need to go from Ushuaia to Puerto nettles and 2 options: one is through ponta arnans. If the equipment doesn't come, then direct them there. Anyway, it's about four girls and I just bought my daughter (outside the tent he notation) and the other girls have to bring there. They thought to hire equipment, but as easyman wrote, apparently they will receive quality equipment.

Thanks again to all of you.
Eduardo.
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