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neutrino  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:00:52 PM(UTC)
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Harmonic Wave,

Also I don't like wars. But Sony's mirorles has a much larger sensor than the other cameras. Quality lens-obviously it MUST if going that way anymore.

BTW, Sony doesn't stop here, it will launch in irorles with camera in Full Frame! The first in the world. It really is a different League.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:05:50 PM(UTC)
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You're right, but it's not the big sensor, the only parameter that affects the image quality.

The camera you're talking about the A7 really looks amazing, but all this discussion away from the subject of the thread.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:15:50 PM(UTC)
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Right is right. I'm a little sick of photography and so it happens.
These large sensor + lens parameters. Well, back to the discussion.

What about banks used? Or Nex-5 c- It will be in the budget.
Good quality. The question is even if you settle for one lens or not. If you need ice, then it necessarily irorles to be more expensive and heavier. Therefore olterazom can match.

I personally shoot two large images:
Views)
1) portraits, macro and mini-borom Yes.

Therefore banks with two lenses pretty enough for me. Usually I shoot landscapes with Sigma 19mm f/2.8 and with Sony 50 mm f/1.8. If you settle for this lens to be considerably easier and cheaper.

The disadvantage of this kind of poor quality-olterasomem compared to cameras with zoom lenses don't. And it happens because the complex optical system, a lot of lens elements.

According to the requirements you are going to get quite a lot of money.

Let's say first if a DSLR is not at all an option by price/weight/size.

If Yes, then go for it because it meets all what you wrote. However, zoom lenses with large ice bought (e.g. 18-200) not worth the money (an average of $ 900-$ 1000) As the larger zoom ice so the quality is worse. Nothing can be done. DSLR with lens 18-200 is quite a waste of money to mark that you're not getting the best quality and the camera with the lens very heavy and large. But it is more convenient because you don't need to change lenses. All compromises.

I went to the mirorles precisely because of these factors. Since the lighter lenses and katnot. However, the viewfinder-dgitelit just a joke. After at DSLR optical viewfinder, you can't use that shit.

If recap
If you have large zoom's ice (i.e. 18-200):
DSLR): buy 3 lenses: 18, 50 and 70-200 zoom. Cost a lot of money ($ 10000) is very heavy (4 + pounds) but best quality
1) installation irorles 3 lenses with a focal length, be quite expensive ($ 6000) but considerably easier (k +) with quality similar to a DSLR at 0)
2) olterazom. Be cheaper (2000-4000) and easy but don't expect good quality except Cyber-shot camera with RX10 this lens is very good and pretty big sensor, but the price — $ 1100.

If you're like me and settle for a bird's eye view of Lensed with zoom lens "normal" of 50-70 mm:
DSLR): regulation 2 lenses: 18 and 50. Which will not exceed 6000 (2.5 to 3 pounds) but the best quality
1) irorles: buy 2 lenses with the same focal length. 600-800 grams. Will be $ 3000-4000 with quality similar to a DSLR
2) compact camera option is very good like SONY-RX100 very easy. Price: 3000 or pre-owned in 2000.

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#24 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:50:10 PM(UTC)
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Yair, Jonathan, Ofer-thank you!

For a long time I sit and watch your pictures, very spectacular.

Brian, thanks for much for the invite, and of course information.

Jonathan first, most importantly – fun to travel with the kids (they already too big to travel with me, preferring their friends ...).
Thanks for your reply and mlatotich, and sharing.
Your photos are gorgeous; And by skipping, scenery, (took it with a X20 zoom), sunset, flowering, panoramic pictures. Joy.

Ofer, was, if you remember, not just pictures of Scandinavia, but also pictures taken from our country. If I understand it correctly, your camera is a camera without a mirror, am I right?
Demands on shridesi aspect of the camera relatively low due to the mild nature of my relative paths.
The option to shoot in light conditions and too little may be important to mind the country conditions.

Greg, your pictures are amazing – picture that looks (supposedly) two Suns WINS admiration here petition!
You could be right and I should look for a used (but first you have to decide is what kind ...)
I don't think I can travel with more than one lens, due to several reasons:

Weight and volume-even so I give up equipment details, especially when I have to carry water for two days.

Nature photography-check out campgrounds, I shoot mostly called on while walking. I can't believe that I have the patience required to change lenses.

Budget limit.




Interesting.

All users in all types of cameras (compact ISO images to other reflex cameras and webcams shows free).

All very satisfied, and rightly so, because all of you achieve spectacular results.

That's great but confusing.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:54:15 PM(UTC)
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Gregg banks used an interesting option, but not to stay versatile lens money (we should compromise on the zoom for a quality camera).

Giora indeed anyone "shield" on the election (in many studies in psychology).

The main reason that the images are beautiful (or not) is the talents of photographers. The camera plays a secondary role, except in very specific situations (e.g. birds).

Anyway, you get an idea of the pros and cons. I've been playing a little with each other and I connect to it.

You can find a lot of information, including video and photographic examples of reviews for each camera model you have it online.
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:15:56 PM(UTC)
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Ultimately, the true purpose of photography including, is peace of mind if the happy pictures, is sufficient.

If a good camera allows the owner's qualifications to be expressed, it seems that I need a truly excellent camera-one that succeeds in overcoming the lack of talent. (Or at least a camera forgiving for mistakes).

Indeed, I've learned a lot about the pros and cons of the different types of camera-and I again thank everyone.

Try to feel the different cameras, and add a call to ask for advice.

Guess it's one of the best threads are photogenic forsman Forum groups of pictures.

Thanks again.
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#27 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:05:51 AM(UTC)
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Move, make no mistake, camera quality and not necessarily be "forgiving for mistakes and I think the majority has become only emphasizes the mistakes.

The compact cameras that "future members" masses in d better not forgive errors (by the way, almost like every technology product)

I'm not saying don't upgrade, just be aware that not only improved the camera will enhance the images (you are aware or were enrolled in a course). 41592.3390740741 with me
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#28 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:39:16 PM(UTC)
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If it is a random and casual photography and ambushes, as a more compact camera will take you less time to shoot.

I think you wrote that you want to show the children the pictures. Take them with you best.

The SECOND BEST for this purpose does not necessarily pass through SLR camera. I get two images from NIKKON COOLPIX P500
I purchased on E-BAY for $ 300 is not new. It's much more than I need. And just because. "."
I travel abroad without a camera or something wouldn't hurt, compact



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#29 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:38:28 PM(UTC)
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Harmonix, went with me.

All of you are right.

Someone takes a picture that the photographer, not the camera.
When I bought a DSLR three months early, came out really bad picture. But after studying hatnseti left me better photos. I'm not a professional photographer.
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#30 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:40:38 PM(UTC)
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Etc extra: despite the many possibilities that allows camera I am using only one mode (AUTO)
And zooming.

Memory: you can purchase a card you want. 4, 8, 16 have also. The problem with large memory cards if
They go wrong for some reason or another (and it happens) have gone a lot of photos.

For your needs doesn't have to photograph this maximum resolution Pack on the card and then on the computer, so in my opinion.
I take the minimum resolution which is more than enough. If you happen to have a rare beauty image space.
The resolution of a few seconds, but it happens very rarely. (Like the picture with the deer he did to me.
Pose for one minute.) Yankale17 41592.6538773148
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#31 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:57:19 PM(UTC)
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To me, yankele, Greg

Thank you for your time, advice and information and recommendations about the picture.

Greg, you're right. I enrolled to study photography, hope that you can teach an old pony some new tricks.

To me, your reasons for yankele-compact, reinforces the experience of successful with.

The problem is that hard to find Compact with peephole (I am sick of seeing the photographer ...).

In fact I only found one with compact viewfinder.
Data look high, but reasonable price:

Http://www.megapixel.co.il/cameras/nikon/coolpix-p7800

CMOS 4.7 X 3.5
Resolution 12
7 Zoom
Battery for 350 photos
Weight 400

Keep looking, hopefully be reduced soon.

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#32 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:06:33 PM(UTC)
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I use black and white elephants yesterday took two elephants on elephants of the Nephilim.


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#33 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:32:07 PM(UTC)
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If you read no viewfinder specs toshia although our habit (born mid-20th century) to photograph only
Tutorial, you will need to put glasses in order to see clearly.

The COOLPIX7800 seemed totally COOL slow zoom. It's all a matter of price.

Izzy: elephant key?
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#34 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:32:15 PM(UTC)
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Yankele,

Have a guess, this is-important information.
To avoid replacing the glasses during a trip (and), I'm putting oltipocl sunglasses color changers.

Indeed, better zoom greater than 7, but that price since. , By the dikutii in the topic:

To achieve a large zoom lens reflex cameras required a heavy, steady, particularly purposeful monochrome, which requires at least one additional lens for landscape photography.

-Figures to cameras and large zoom feature (including 50 and 60).

Between compactness you can find variable zoom sizes (5-20)
But as mentioned, it is rare to find cost-effective compact viewfinder.

Yair and Jonathan warned us about the need for compromise.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:23:12 PM(UTC)
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I'm still with reading glasses and glasses for distance. The trip only regular sunglasses + glasses that cost $ 50.

Think also about the glasses to PC. The problem with oltipocl color-altering if lost, I didn't.
Some include two couples lost together , down the drain a lot of shekels.

I would purchase this camera

The pictures you take no one is not an SLR. Angle and zoom lens of 42, can take a neighbor makabim Reut the hairs
In the ear. And it significantly cheaper what 7800. Yankale17 41592.8595717593
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#36 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:58:07 PM(UTC)
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Yankele,

Oltipocl sunglasses color changers too expensive — but rather because being hemshech 3D, very hard to lose them; Remove them only for bathing and sleeping.

Thank you for the recommendation.
It brought camera is GPS-like, very similar in performance and characteristics to CANON SX50 it brought a message (think Canon except rather heard about her new DIGIC processor 5-more expensive choice, about 1750, but not required, to be able to buy it immediately, and a local warranty).


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#37 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 4:11:11 AM(UTC)
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I didn't think the discussion keeps so much, but if you have:
Mirrorless cameras you can find multiple good tchlthiot lenses (including stabilizers and the whole thing) that cover the entire range of 30-300 mm and I'm hanging out with this lens a couple years ago (in the film), and (as an amateur)-don't feel ה"פגיעה" basically there due to less accurate optics. Therefore, no need to turn eyes with more than one lens.

The obvious lens cameras SLR in the figures is often something with similar information to f so that no problem in this field,

And both cameras (in summary) SLR quality photos and less weight and awkwardness.

I think ultimately I'd recommend something, SLR-like due to the eyepiece (similar performance).

And short point: heroic (or SLR-SLR) that respects itself, next to the viewfinder has a fax function knob on the viewfinder to match even without glasses-check.

Good evening!
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#38 Posted : Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:53:52 PM(UTC)
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And that the thread lengthens. Checked, Lo and behold , there is a dial to the left of the viewfinder. Most options on your camera.
Giving no notice. Thanks Jonathan.
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#39 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35:59 AM(UTC)
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Dear friends

Once again thank you all for your time and the missionary position.

Thanks to the information it received indicating and waiting, I was able to configure my needs to learn the existing supply, and make appropriate compromises, I did.

That assumption is that ש"התברכתי bad picture" often worse than snapshots: pictures taken at all because the camera had remained at home, deep in a backpack, and photos taken without seeing the target.

In view of the aforesaid, I focused on the viewfinder enables cost in my opinion reasonable comfort President demanding route, without giving up.


The compactness of the Allied units eyepiece (G12, Canon's and Nikon's 7800 P-quality cameras!) has a limited zoom (5 and 7 respectively) and are too big to carry in your pocket.

Due to the aforementioned chose and bought SLR-like camera. If you find that this camera is too large to be carried on routes that require heavy weight (carrying water for days), take these routes easy pocket camera.

The camera picked out quite a few drawbacks SX50; Small sensor range of aperture and larger dimensions than the compactness. However, she has a great processor, which may make it slightly on the size of the sensor, and of course the huge zoom.

(Obviously I have to settle for the photo capabilities to lighting conditions, but much more important to me is the ability to shoot in by the morning I managed to photograph red chest that eluded me in the past few days, when I tried to take pictures with the camera.)

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