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bengaon  
#1 Posted : Saturday, November 30, 2013 5:20:01 PM(UTC)
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Hello friends,

For those who do not know my name, I am Ashwin the www.Meitar.cosite.

I development of a new product: a survival kit for travellers, and would love to hear from you!

The new scheme for travellers, in my opinion, include the following:

Evaluation of synthetic fabric pouch, consider about 300 g-200, and ttomachr by 89-79.

My question is: what would you change or add to the kit, your personal experience?

Jump string longer? Survival bracelet? Purifies water First aid kit You need a compass (or maybe not), add a survival bracelet or secure equipment Add a flashlight?

What is your opinion? Happy to help!

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#2 Posted : Sunday, December 1, 2013 1:53:40 AM(UTC)
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I'd really like to help.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, December 1, 2013 9:02:10 AM(UTC)
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Yarin, try to help my experience.

First, you should configure the target audience, because I think the country need to set different visitors abroad.

In Israel, I would estimate this component:

Vagina (open in case, because I think it matters) made of cloth and luminance color (Orange, for example), DrawString carry on long neck and a small easy to buckle on the belt.

Strings-take of 5 m (when I take a tent) or 10 m (when I take refuge we stand by itself).

Escape blanket-taking, except in hot weather (even to compensate for slight kg).

Knife-card I have no idea what it was, and how effective product. I think, in the country, the blade is cutting wires, cords and food packaging. I'm taking Japanese knife or thin blade for cutting food with high fitness. I avoid cutting vegetation-land there is nothing needed!

Fire stone.

-Compass and only checked it and found out that he is inconsistent (some tiny compasses discoverers tmtzaotit flexibility.)

-Whistle.

I think it is essential to add:

The equipment list included you + recommended additional equipment that should carry the survival, according to the choice of the traveler.

Tiny led flashlight (again, after checking and find that the headlights when it comes, and their operating switches, it is believed).

Zip-loc bag to keep the contents dry Kit, as well as vessels to whom Ms. parasol.

At least 50 cm tape (!)-for repairs, and even dressing improvisations.

For other questions:

Purifies-guess you pills, iodine or chlorine. Iodine would not add in any way could harm in some people! I have no opinion about money. Chlorine is useful, but it must be remembered that the pills there is an expiration date. Therefore, I did not include purification tablets, and with reference to your customers to buy the corresponding to them, and to renew it in due course.

-In my opinion, most people separate topics and different sets of survival and first aid, to let them decide what they want to carry a backup survival kit.

In my opinion, since the evaluation components are accessible, the main advantage is the ability to provide cheap price because bulk purchase and shipping one.

Hope I helped.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:16:34 PM(UTC)
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I think I went the egg breaks the subject well and add some important issues and you may repeat some of the things he wrote.

Clearly there is a difference between the designed schemes abroad and the land systems list is suggested is a great idea. This will make a base and travels system adds the destination and nature of measures according to the trip and the negated mlatotiich appear in the same list.

External case must be in color, preferably waterproof that you can carry around your neck or around the waist.

Although amithr is the primary task and said, I don't think this string should be in the Kit. He also catches and almost half the current price. The string should be a lot more. And also, the prominent color (red, Orange, green phosphorus)

As I move adds a flashlight to believe. For example I have a flashlight to sector's great with 3 lighting modes and durable. (It costs between 70 to 100, bought it just recently but realized it is a quality and reliable flashlight.)

I add a small signaling mirror. I saw in the store "forever knives" shows a matchbook-sized failure This seems a bit small but nice touch.

I'd added some waterproof matches.

I refine the topic knife for something a bit stronger with a serrated blade like a tree saw and more function, not much more.

Suggest you refer some on YouTube, there's no shortage of information and videos about survival kits may jump you any idea into something.

bengaon  
#5 Posted : Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:47:19 PM(UTC)
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Thank you very much.

How much would you pay for such a scheme?

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#6 Posted : Sunday, December 1, 2013 11:26:13 PM(UTC)
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Depends of course ultimately what it will contain.
Anyway, it's always best to place two options
A full and varied assessment and evaluation.
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#7 Posted : Monday, December 2, 2013 8:15:02 AM(UTC)
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Without understanding in marketing, I'd expect a low pricing on several dozen percent of which can cost the buyer to buy the independent all elements of a set. This for two reasons: 1. some items every set is considered by the purchaser as necessary or appropriate, and decides to give them or replace them with others.

2. the buyer expects that part of the amount (including shipping and import component) trade name to him.
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#8 Posted : Monday, December 2, 2013 8:24:20 AM(UTC)
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Hi I think that most people will make their own assessment. Especially if it includes basic products and achievable.
So I tried ל"המציא" tax owner product nlau dooch functions to collect existing products into one package.
Wide elastic bandage is in my opinion to supplement and many possible uses, from dressing ability anchoring and tethering.

Good luck
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bengaon  
#9 Posted : Monday, December 2, 2013 1:42:15 PM(UTC)
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Hello friends,

In my opinion, not to rise the price of the product to hundreds of dollars, keep the basic needs, and travel only adds specially suited to him.

I received this comment on a zip-loc bag and various products.

When I develop and sell thru, I'd like to give you (as always) a 15% discount.

Thank you very much, and I'd be happy to update you.

Suggestions and comments are welcome, too.

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#10 Posted : Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:10:51 PM(UTC)
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Personal experience has led me to add to the set.

I hate to be stuck without a light 3/4 time in the bowels of the Earth.

S.K.  
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:33:23 PM(UTC)
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Absolutely essential candle not only the possibility of conflict in the cave (the cave entrances must have in my opinion and experience, take a flashlight and Max ' extra small torch as backup.)
A candle can be helpful for lighting, materials, especially if they are damp or wet and can save dozens of matches.
It should be noted however that, as before, that it is not necessary that this candle barchh ready to be that travel adds the desired him.
bengaon  
#12 Posted : Friday, December 6, 2013 1:20:22 PM(UTC)
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In my opinion, need to differentiate important equipment for the trip, important equipment for survival. I will elaborate:

True you should take good strong flashlight or knife, but these are not parts of the system.

My understanding of the survival kit is intended for use in emergencies, and therefore, not her equipment needs for the trip himself. My goal is to serve as emergency aid and equipment it contains, should be helped.
For example: escape blanket (no use in emergency only), Flint (no need to use the vis only in emergencies), drop (emergency use), backup (and quality standard flashlight).

As you rely on the most current evaluation, we need to add to the kit more robust products that correspond to normal use (not for emergencies only).
So, unintentionally, get a set that contains a black head of a Gerber knife, jigsaw and others, evaluation equipment become very costly and not be survival kit, but simply part of the normal equipment and performances.

What is your opinion?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, December 7, 2013 7:51:24 AM(UTC)
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First, Yarin, recommends you consult your survival guides are members of the Forum.

To understand the survival kit should be used for emergencies and backup, including in the case of a forced breakup or initiated backpack (some passengers to carry on their bodies, others satisfied with drop instead is removable, take it immediately and start engine).
Therefore, in my opinion, requires little set and easy as possible.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, December 7, 2013 11:31:20 PM(UTC)
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Bengaon, as you wrote survival kit contains accessories and equipment designed for emergency distress situations (such as a blanket, a whistle, etc.) but not to increase the total weight let it equipment.
I have to use matches but in holding some waterproof matches (wax-coated or Lek) and other things to help with lighting (candle lighter, fireball, etc.)
A backpack holding a flashlight in to small and penlight Kit as a backup and emergency (already the French link.)
However, I don't hold one regular uses knife plus a small knife or pocketknife 911, only a small knife with two or three blades that will always be in the kit and use it also.

Eventually you have to remember that the total weight is very important (and this forum to give you light weight emphasis) must therefore maintain a minimum weight and versatility.

In past discussions on the subject should find them. Copy here the answer I wrote at the time in one of these discussions.

"There are two approaches to this subject:

The aishrdatit claims that you must prepare for the worst and therefore brings all sorts of means.
Some really cool and useful and some just seem cool.
The second approach: aimsh emorth leave you any bullshit ".
The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

Cover:
Getaway-blanket for years I carry one backpack.
Once helped me a lot in the night putting tour with the break, twice tried to make with shelter from the Sun and is ripped and torn.
So I have a solid opinion about her but since she, could be a useful and occupies volume I still issue a blanket like this regularly.

Big-bag trash can be used as a makeshift shelter for Traveler himself and wrapping equipment.
You should choose the bag harder and orange to detection and identification.

Lighting the fire:
In my opinion the preservation and include this ability.
Travel may find itself cold stress conditions for all kinds of different reasons.
Take a day trip across the mtanchnn, moist rain unexpectedly, crossing or even falling back water etc.
Fire lighting helps greatly in suspected polluted dispenser, self check in night and day (by smoke), as a source of warmth and light and to improve morale and feeling of psikologi security.

Fire stick-I don't know where it's another teriind fresh means (literally).
Lighter will make power work effectively, moisture conditions, and even with one hand (which is not possible using a stick fire)
It seems that ash is nice but I stick it gives a sense of back to the stone age ().
Who or on money, can be ordered at $ 1.50 includes shipping on eBay.

Cotton oosalin spirit, cotton balls dipped in wax, they are cheap and easy means for improving the capacity for lighting the fire. -Interested in information network and on YouTube.

Water purification
All already know that especially in a land without adequate water capacity for survival and proper functioning is questionable and I do not talk about death from lack of water but also and mainly on the effects of dehydration in the first stages yet can cause many problems such as lack of balance, lack of concentration, dizziness that might jeopardize that for (steep).

For the sake of cleansing and purifying water, gauze pad, a piece of cloth — will be the first physical filter suspected contaminated water or MOP review.
Iodine-most bacteria would Sin again.
What it means in the system of the traveler.
[Using iodine-5-10 drops per liter depending on the suspected infection, wait at least 30 minutes, preferably clear warm water.
Populations have the sensitivity to use iodine, suffering from thyroid problems, pregnant women, etc.]

Cutting tools, measures, etc.
I have a Pocket knife and a iteronix model. I had no need for more.
The walks I take a utility knife or something similar.
About Ortlieb, expensive models cost hundreds of dollars and weigh quite a bit (about 200 g), completely unnecessary reasons.

Lighting and signalling and detection
Flashlight, whistle, fire blanket, a garbage bag or fabric color sheet controls all these and more can be used as a means of identification.
The mirror has the ability to Flash distances and may be a long distance identification
It must be remembered that even shiny metal (blade), Tin (cover removed) and maybe even so in his backpack for the traveler can have a similar response.
However I'm still not convinced of the need to carry shows regularly. (My kit I put disc of hard disk laptop, small, thin, fragile and not allowing the guy to set the Flash.)
bengaon  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:04:56 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for the thorough answer.
EPIC lessons and get back to you.
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