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niv.edelshtien  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:34:05 PM(UTC)
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Hello
There is now on sale at baghause and functional backpack type bio flex 70 + 10.
The seller said it was a special, instead rising pod weight 850 2,000 shekels, and the best pod exist in store.
I wanted to get opinions from people on the company and on the cartridge itself if anyone knows if it is really as good as the seller.

I flew to South America for five months and a backpack and NIS space really fits me whether it really that profitable operation or rather buy a more familiar?

Thanks for the help.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:25:26 PM(UTC)
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Travel World shop on "specials" they intentionally set a fixed price, then sell the product with "off" in terms of price the price of the bag is standard fare in stores abroad.
Http://store.berghaus.co.../baghause%20bioflex%2070
If the case is what I think he's going to have much better at other stores such as osprey, Deuter, Lowe etc
These victim coughing up blood bags a few hundred dollars, but they will function better.
Just go to other stores and see another 300 to 500 cases they don't weight a big difference if you're flying to South America
And can offer you more cases.

I have PRO bag Deuter ACT is relatively heavy but its fabric fabric strength of bihant is the most powerful on the market.

However, over in Throop make bags easier but with fabric that holds half power (I know I entered the corner but I checked according to manufacturer says
Fabric data used to create the files).

The most important thing is that you will be comfortable.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:48:29 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = YoniSp; 580034] travel world shop on "specials" they intentionally set a fixed price, then sell the product with "off" in terms of price the price of the bag is
As usual the price in stores abroad.
Http://store.berghaus.com/search/baghause%20bioflex%2070
If the case is what I think he's going to have much better at other stores such as osprey, Deuter, Lowe etc
These victim coughing up blood bags a few hundred dollars, but they will function better.
Just go to other stores and see another 300 to 500 cases they don't weight a big difference if you're flying to South America
And can offer you more cases.

I have PRO bag Deuter ACT is relatively heavy but its fabric fabric strength of bihant is the most powerful on the market.

However, over in Throop make bags easier but with fabric that holds half power (I know I entered the corner but I checked according to manufacturer says
Fabric data used to create the files).

The most important thing is that you will be comfortable.

Adjusting the assumed that store high on purpose and that's bringing in blink, I can get better at this price bags or is it the right choice.

And to buy it.

There was also a case of VAUDE at the same volume, I don't really remember the model might be better?

Because I didn't really want to go through the case.

איתי  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 7:10:42 AM(UTC)
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Hey NIV

I don't know but this society shells of berghaus quite common in Europe (in the country).

An flutter backpack reviews actually looks pretty good.

Vaude backpacks also have better bottom line – if you backpack (and it's not just comfortable in the Pocket but also after 15 minutes of hanging around in the store with the weight on your back-ask seller backpack that overwhelms you), but don't buy it, "tsthnoor-the most comfortable backpack with him.

And one more thing-you're going to do great in South Africa with a small 10-15 litre backpack
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:08:34 AM(UTC)
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Hey,
The list price of $ 2,000 is indeed about pod.
And now about Kenya in the country rather than overseas.
Assumes that currently is real and functional discount that the best-selling product in 30% discount.

About the product itself:
Back system, similar to the system of the BIO FLEX can be found only in pods of Gregory.
The parallel Gregory backpack revealed at least $ 1000.
Backpack weight 2.23 kg and is in the category is between.
The fitness equipment.
This backpack brand's flagship, he was the leading brands in Europe and UK.

In conclusion-unfortunately you cannot compare the two pods technical notes that are not in the same category.
Convenience is the name of the game.
The price is only trger.

Edited by user Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:19:29 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

niv.edelshtien  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:16:20 AM(UTC)
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First of all thanks for your help,
Secondly I robbed store with pods and both were very comfortable and that's a dilemma, that's why I check according to the quality of the product and are trying to make a decision.
I couldn't find much online about the bad review berghause except it and because it cleared the Forum to people with experience are allowed, then the last bit of reaction dispels the concerns.

About blacksmiths at the branch I was wasn't attractive samples such weights despite it steered them to blacksmiths then went on another 10 liter backpack for more.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 12:42:59 PM(UTC)
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Dear TRAVELERS!
Your ambitions to protect the country known rates pciai it!
Price list 2000 chess?
In the case of the rgaaus site was sold at full price by approximately 960 chess plus a gift-20 to rghaus's day.
Look who decided to promote this brand reserved parties.
We're still waiting for the rain coats by rgaaus in 75 grams with climate control (above? AC?)
I wonder what will be price ה"מחירון"?
Besides, yields a nice guy who seeks an objective and professional advice, not bullshit flag style "Pod", "loading capacity, and of course, happy to hear" pod. "
Yields, and those who don't understand what's going on: a type of TRAVELERS "unauthorized" deals with every time he decides that this forum ad.
niv.edelshtien  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:05:44 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = klum; 580044] Dear TRAVELERS!
Your ambitions to protect the country known rates pciai it!
Price list 2000 chess?
In the case of the rgaaus site was sold at full price by approximately 960 chess plus a gift-20 to rghaus's day.
Look who decided to promote this brand reserved parties.
We're still waiting for the rain coats by rgaaus in 75 grams with climate control (above? AC?)
I wonder what will be price ה"מחירון"?
Besides, yields a nice guy who seeks an objective and professional advice, not bullshit flag style "Pod", "loading capacity, and of course, happy to hear" pod. "
Yields, and those who don't understand what's going on: a type of TRAVELERS "unauthorized" deals with every time he decides that this forum ad.

Also do Web inquiries and saw that he wasn't really worth 2000 weight yet costs 850 is still pretty good, and comfortable backpack sounds suitable for my needs.

But you can get opinions (hodgepodge) if quality or pod is priced so you can find better things?

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:16:06 PM(UTC)
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What you call the price is the cost of the State in which you live is laying on the importers and to the shops.

About my interests.

I was always in favor of buying products on Earth! In order to help with the income of residents of the country in which I live!!!

And, even if it's more expensive. It is a matter of homogeneity

You are forgetting something very important, buy overseas-importers will bring interest to the land quality equipment arrives only overpriced junk.

Then, people like you, complain you didn't bring to Earth products. A thought ...

TRAVELERS is a store selling almost exclusively goods for THE NORTH FACE and it closed five years ago.

And my main interest is on detractors and fight slander. Especially those without basic information.

Each business owner has the right to make ends meet, keep this in mind before you called. (I am not a business).

And Yes, I have many interests, but if you read anything I've written in recent years show that it is not really aimed at specific companies, specific products.

And the climate control badmouthed on hand, I haven't seen you dismissed product with "Climat control" of Colombia.

And the coat of the rghaus and coming soon.

In summary:

Come and learn.

And most importantly back and avoid name-calling, it's not you respect and knowledge.

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:51:41 PM(UTC)
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And a little something about exorbitant prices.

When I was in negotiations with several companies in the field of traveling abroad to import their products (it should be noted that most of them are very large companies or end).

The real problem is that chibuan or representative that I got was about 30% of the price and freight costs have, insurance, taxes (sometimes Standards Institute) storage costs, shipping, marketing, credit conditions, repairs etc.

If it's a big company, they require a minimum order and it means "sleeping inventory" and of course funding (cash price).

And of course also the importer and the store should eat.

Ah ... And another thing, importers have the our prioolgy consumers pay-pay cash before it even leaves the country of origin.

So if you sum all show that the price is not so excessive and overpriced, but a consequence of constraints.

If we continue to buy abroad and denigrate people who many investors for quality equipment land prices only rise that will be harder to finance business activities.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:22:45 PM(UTC)
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TRAVELERS!
A. If you want to race me criticizing the country in which I live, be warned-you are going to lose!
If I had to choose between cover for owners of "the traveler", and covered of Edelstein obviously choosing idiom (look at his cute image?).
I'm not sure there are only two options: one to import equipment, the ו"לשחוט, and the other to import what you call" trash "and" slaughter "that maybe we can import everything and still remain fair and decent.
4. don't call me "people like you". You don't know me.
I'm glad you have a purpose in life: "to detractors and earphones that don't have basic information" I even envy me for instance there is no purpose, just hanging out in the world with a backpack like a retard.
And I didn't understand. Don't have a business, but you order merchandise and selling it?
7. I've seen a lot of your posts, and you do have knowledge (at least mine) However, many infected "entries" prominently commercial motives to not issue this forum.
8. If I have offended you, and in you're importing, I do apologize. This wasn't the intention. The term "climate control" just amused me.
9. I don't really have a lot of knowledge and dignity I applied.
Come on, let's pull over part friends, and stop making ads here.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:43:28 PM(UTC)
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The pod in question but ...

A religious models of ktsoaha?

There dkathlon if you travel through Spain.

Store?

Store over in Throop?

From Rob Gregory?

From Rob pace lamp MSR Sierra design the ardevr at bamboo mountain view resort?

There are at least five types of backpacks get before this backpack, dignity of the vendors in place of resting. But

Traveller Samsonite right-every piece of equipment that country fifty percent of the price goes to fund the Palace Builder Netanyahu's, money for police education brieot to edit the front defensive and security but there are 800 million dollars to house the Prime Minister's Palace.

Sorry, importers in moan land under these inputs and skulls on the consumer, but with all the grief about not buy anything.

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:53:48 PM(UTC)
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Nati
You forgot ice cream pistachio 1500 per month.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 3:36:10 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = naty_h; 580051]

The pod in question but ...

A religious models of ktsoaha?

There dkathlon if you travel through Spain.

Store?

Store over in Throop?

From Rob Gregory?

From Rob pace lamp MSR Sierra design the ardevr at bamboo mountain view resort?

There are at least five types of backpacks get before this backpack, dignity of the vendors in place of resting. But

Traveller Samsonite right-every piece of equipment that country fifty percent of the price goes to fund the Palace Builder Netanyahu's, money for police education brieot to edit the front defensive and security but there are 800 million dollars to house the Prime Minister's Palace.

Sorry, importers in moan land under these inputs and skulls on the consumer, but with all the grief about not buy anything.

Yes I know it's more expensive country, but in this case I don't want to start looking at South America and overseas delivery and don't get out much cheaper than buying in the country with all UPS shipping and customs.

I tried a couple pods of large companies and most of them were really comfortable and it was hard for me to do a comparison on comfort maybe because of my experience, my question is that you choose the companies that sell because they're better or because you're not familiar with berghause?

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 8:56:38 PM(UTC)
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Kill the boy.

Just wanted to know if this backpack.

NIV, rghaus is a company known and believed, is not which brand sticker (crimor for example).
For most of what I do in South Africa also outdoor in shell 500 $.

If you were a backpack and budget you buy it, it won't be less than tnf shell or doiiter or oaoda (he did better than our shell, and forgive me yankele (-:)
niv.edelshtien  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:39:53 PM(UTC)
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Cool, that's pretty much what I wanted to hear I go on this case.
And I know you can handle much worse cases already get to travel a few days with a backpack Briefcase of outdoror but said if I have already invested a good backpack.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:18:18 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = edelshtien; 580053. niv]

[Quote = naty_h; 580051]

The pod in question but ...

A religious models of ktsoaha?

There dkathlon if you travel through Spain.

Store?

Store over in Throop?

From Rob Gregory?

From Rob pace lamp MSR Sierra design the ardevr at bamboo mountain view resort?

There are at least five types of backpacks get before this backpack, dignity of the vendors in place of resting. But

Traveller Samsonite right-every piece of equipment that country fifty percent of the price goes to fund the Palace Builder Netanyahu's, money for police education brieot to edit the front defensive and security but there are 800 million dollars to house the Prime Minister's Palace.

Sorry, importers in moan land under these inputs and skulls on the consumer, but with all the grief about not buy anything.

Yes I know it's more expensive country, but in this case I don't want to start looking at South America and overseas delivery and don't get out much cheaper than buying in the country with all UPS shipping and customs.

I tried a couple pods of large companies and most of them were really comfortable and it was hard for me to do a comparison on comfort maybe because of my experience, my question is that you choose the companies that sell because they're better or because you're not familiar with berghause?

I don't believe in other people's recommendations, consideration of other consideration therefore only after I checked, and I also don't believe the tips experts have the interest but'm listening to everyone who says words I taste.

I also don't agree with the assertion that cannot be purchased abroad and I know דר"א I was there longer than most people in General, so I know where you can buy or rent the equipment where and at what level, I don't know how much a trip you're planning, I knew what was good for me, I put in a backpack and got back in the compound that is most pod two.

If Rob, wake-up list out equipment list for what goes in where some Pocket where the tent nznia oil bottle, are you going to climb to AX tracks.? There are tracks where crampons walking sticks sat?

Everything is a concern in Kenya, which offers cool amatil harmill but what what what good Backpack Backpack

What rename question brand begins its nature canvas transfers or conveys water?

Not strong? Useful or not? Noah? What system? What level of buckles? Asked a question how society is very general.

The answer is very simple you can buy Porsche as a standard sedan. There is also a car Jet generation both under the same brand name but different products.

So check read and decide if you want to get advice from others increases take them limited liability won't tell what donations you back strap was torn or damaged back and that you can't keep.

None of those who gave you tips now I carry my backpack there where you are not familiar and functional, in another forum to access the hell happens but professional shop poke won't sell you there, if you like the price of travel, go for it. If that's the best backpack. Then you might want to shop elsewhere?

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#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:32:24 PM(UTC)
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Heard you than trying to teach me about buying smart rather than answer the question I asked (although it already is irrelevant I decided)
I said my requirements were, and discrimination with the pod itself in relation to quality, price said the company and the shell to answer many of the questions you asked.
Don't worry about me, I'm just here to advice the importance of helping people I don't know, it's just added value to my decision.
If you assume an unfamiliar backpack because it did not have much professional advice about him but there is no need to deal with subjects I didn't ask them.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:43:45 AM(UTC)
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As I said before, it's very well known abroad, especially in Britain.

I was also checking on other stores because I saw he weighs nearly three pounds, it's a little heavy for my taste.

At this price, even in the country, you can find files.

Good trip

neutrino  
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:15:22 AM(UTC)
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TRAVELERS,

Listen, let's compare the country store opposite the shop abroad for them things like transportation, Hasna, logistics ... Everything you wrote both stores. There's a big difference. Taxes- But taxes have a joke compared to the prices routinely overcharge.

About support for "importers". I'm all for supporting create. And I buy dooch our products even if they are less expensive and more. But excuse me, to contribute money to the importer WTF?!?!? I no longer buy time on Earth nothing Xochimilco from food. Buy batteries even on EBAY. Why That comes down to "importers" to steal money from consumers!
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