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Arctic  
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 15, 2014 7:05:04 PM(UTC)
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I plan to start the North area September Israel and finish the roof until Nov 10th because I'm enlisting 17 years.

Read the introduction to the Red Book of Israel. There is an option to do the trail without landfills? (I did a week ago and sea water carried 6 liters every day).

When should I start to Prep/planning More you recommend for them/read

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:55:03 AM(UTC)
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Unable to finish the trail without landfills, especially for inexperienced and with all due respect, sea water is not equivalent to a journey in the desert heat of October-November.
You're saying you plan to go alone. The desert areas are dealing with danger!
Suggest you go with partners and landfills.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:21:53 AM(UTC)
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I obviously don't go alone in the desert! I find people and join them.

Kinda sucks to hear impossible without landfills, according to me before to Arad.

So I go up and then I see what Arad State forensics and how much money I have.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:16:15 AM(UTC)
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I wish all visitors at army post were referring to the quest for a mature and sober as you are.

Advise you in the meantime strengthen your fitness and get a few more members experience some day trips with all the equipment.

Worth the porami shared search that you want to travel on the path from September, or reply to messages. Keep in mind that only one-third the value of all go in sequence starting to do indeed, finish it. The atmanot cycle is indeed equal to atmospheric Arad.

Good luck!

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:17:53 PM(UTC)
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I would say this: it is not recommended to do this trail without landfills but it's certainly possible if you are willing to carry water for two days.

Four times. Not a few have already done so. Read here: http://shvilisrael.myfastforum.org/about362.html

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:24:17 PM(UTC)
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Cool, thanks!

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#7 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:47:59 AM(UTC)
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You don't expect to find yankele irresponsibility such

To send 18 in October and two days without this desert landfills.

If it was played in January and February when the weather is nice. But many season?

Hope that guy will not try to even think that way.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:57:26 PM(UTC)
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This is an 18-year-old boy (whose name ironically ARCTIC), and camel.
I look forward to a complete answer forum no style "possible", "not recommended" ו"עשו".
Join overwhelmingly the opinion of nthei.
ARCTIC, don't you dare!
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#9 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:05:26 PM(UTC)
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There's still time. In a date approaches I consult with you and I'm going to check again, Arad

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#10 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:06:54 PM(UTC)
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What has been written is: "you can leave the Negev without landfills." Regarding dates, in the Negev, etc you are jumping to conclusions are wrong, nthei.

Last spring a few hikers, including foreign tourists, were left without water because of the landfills that were stolen. Who wants to have always without water

No fear of theft, carry water for two days. All the others do landfills, use and toss laid. There were also complaints about service providers.

Possible to go without the landfills. It (half day), no fun, but doable.

To date: as of the end of October and depending on the weather.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:11:57 PM(UTC)
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Yankele, you risk people's lives in your response.

So what if people do that? I know someone in the late fifties (120) went all-East Harmon on another day and at a temperature of 38 degrees in the shade (and there's not much shade). And anyone who asks if it is possible to go from a one-day all Sapphire watch.

There are exceptions everywhere. Experienced travelers can purify water, milk cactuses to drink their Pee and dig tmillot. Choose 18 that his first trip thecomplete answer is nay!

Should and must do the landfills!!

Water skipping in exceptional circumstances and as a last resort, and carrying water for a couple of days, there's nothing to talk about, especially not on the Forum.

You want him to take the water to Crest?  I climb into the deadliest of the trail (point heel) with 25 pounds?

Trying to find out what the average temperature for October in the Negev? True, a month later he itaclm, but without knowing who the guy, what's his experience how much sweat, what his acclimatization of ability and his gym-recommendation is unequivocal: we must make the landfills!

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#12 Posted : Friday, June 20, 2014 8:57:15 AM(UTC)
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Sorry if the comment looks harshly. but these are no compromises, Klum said: the answer must be a shmshayt, especially season is on the verge of gbonlies desert trip and before young underwent a long journey on their own.
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#13 Posted : Monday, June 23, 2014 9:06:02 AM(UTC)
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I share tpishtchs, nthei and anything that places safety considerations over other considerations.
However, I have to disagree with some of the same arguments you, and the dogmatic kbiatchs derived from them.

According to national weather service data (even in light of my personal experience), the Negev desert climate allows for a safe and enjoyable trip for months.
(October 27 morning field-14, November 27-15 in Eilat).
In the case of warmer days, you can relax in the afternoon.
In addition, during this time can seem to relinquish heavy winter gear kg and the tent so that you can move with a relatively low weight.

Fact is, you can go in the Israel National Trail (INT) without plant water and no bounces, for spouses and/or season does not have other heavy equipment.
In my view, the difference in weight between the pods is laid and friends who are not so big shovel.
For example:
Suppose a hiker we planted in the farm, SDE Boker to mitzpe Ramon with 10 liters of water on his back. Whether pushing friend half the amount? As we stated at the top of the course, the traveler should metmin you the water daily if you then atmanto. Suppose that traveler will be over 7 liters. Is the Knight of three gallons of the best bet lies in reliance on landfill? In my opinion, this amount anyway else tigama till noon.
(Incidentally, I think the weight where female, 25 kg nthei up separately, is very excessive for the heavy tent topic).



I think yankele right preferred habirot or bouncing over burial.
To understand the process safer, and it also allows to receive fresh products and for those interested, and waste removal.
Of course, given the considerations such as cellular, but you can plan a successful habirot (for example: when I needed a link in first semester, yehoram exists cellular a mountain yehoash).

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#14 Posted : Monday, June 23, 2014 11:10:12 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = nthei; 580223] sorry if the comment looks harshly. but these are no compromises, Klum said: the answer must be a shmshayt, especially season is on the verge of gbonlies desert trip and before young underwent a long journey on their own.

Friends, forget that this travel forum where many different participants with different experience and therefore cannot be completely sharp one unambiguous to everyone.

Isn't it better to know the net and let the attendees decide? One way or the other mountains it is only opinions and recommendation from any authorized official can be trusted.

[Quote = Arctic; 580110] read the introduction to the Red Book of Israel. There is an option to do the trail without landfills? (I did a week ago and sea water carried 6 liters every day).

There is an option to do the trail without landfills, but should be aware of consequences:

1) will need more water, lift the weight or use water mkfitzi in real time.

2) will need to plan carefully exit points in case the water will be close to completion before you dry.

* Personally prefer not to rely on the landfills for the reasons noted, yankele and therefore need to take water for two days at the expense of other things (to lose weight) and water filter.

[Quote = Arctic; 580110] when should start preparing/planning

No time for that and it depends on:

1) free time that you can assign to the preparation.

Your starting point), is keeping fit in General, sports day etc.

3) how much are you willing to invest in equipment.

* My personal preparations are usually two or three months (depending on the season before) before serious trip overseas in two trips on weekends.

[Quote = Arctic; 580110] else you recommend for them/read

1) preparation for me, it's best to simulate the real situation will be at the track as possible, meaning deciding what weight you are going to carry

Then start doing at least two tours in a row with the same (or more) to let your body adjust.

2) If you are not a regular hiker, so don't know what the minimal fluid intake, and thus strongly recommended as part of preparations to fit at least two days (similar to what would be in October-November) with the target weight

Then figure out what minimum fluid intake in the conditions.

After you know how much you're drinking, plan your walk in accordance with at least 20% more water for emergencies.

3) buzz walks: calluses, blisters, fractures, back pain, the chances of accidents, all increased as taking too much weight, no equipment and save on planning ahead, so very much to invest.

Arctic  
#15 Posted : Monday, June 23, 2014 11:42:21 AM(UTC)
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There is an option to do the trail without landfills, but should be aware of consequences:

1) will need more water, lift the weight or use water mkfitzi in real time.

I'm ready to carry more water and as I advised in previous comments I also take fewer things so that the basic weight will be easier.

2) will need to plan carefully exit points in case the water will be close to completion before you dry.

If you are dealing with road/port-towns

* Personally prefer not to rely on the landfills for the reasons noted, yankele and therefore need to take water for two days at the expense of other things (to lose weight) and water filter.

In addition I also prefer to save money wherever possible. I have an aqua filter 100 litres is Causeway is good enough or you need to integrate with tabs? (Of course in case of emergency).

No time for that and it depends on:

1) free time that you can assign to the preparation.

July/August-August/September (when working) I intend to purchase the equipment and do trips (in preparation and also just for fun)

Your starting point), is keeping fit in General, sports day etc.

Keeping fit, I enlisted so I've been fighting.

3) how much are you willing to invest in equipment.

In principle. But if necessary I'm willing to invest.

* My personal preparations are usually two or three months (depending on the season before) before serious trip overseas in two trips on weekends.

1) preparation for me, it's best to simulate the real situation will be at the track as possible, meaning deciding what weight you are going to carry

Then start doing at least two tours in a row with the same (or more) to let your body adjust.

2) If you are not a regular hiker, so don't know what the minimal fluid intake, and thus strongly recommended as part of preparations to fit at least two days (similar to what would be in October-November) with the target weight

Then figure out what minimum fluid intake in the conditions.

After you know how much you're drinking, plan your walk in accordance with at least 20% more water for emergencies.

3) buzz walks: calluses, blisters, fractures, back pain, the chances of accidents, all increased as taking too much weight, no equipment and save on planning ahead, so very much to invest.

Did Sea Sea two weeks ago, and I plan to do more tours, what to do/recommended? I haven't had too much of a pain.

I did the same with sneakers, and subsequently upgraded to cliffer old Oslo.

According to national weather service data (even in light of my personal experience), the Negev desert climate allows for a safe and enjoyable trip for months.
(October 27 morning field-14, November 27-15 in Eilat).
In the case of warmer days, you can relax in the afternoon.
In addition, during this time can seem to relinquish heavy winter gear kg and the tent so that you can move with a relatively low weight.

I don't plan to take tent about km I don't so you know what to take winter gear (brass and only Hat)?

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#16 Posted : Monday, June 23, 2014 12:04:43 PM(UTC)
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Mention the options that exist. To carry water to one or two options.

My personal preference: stay in bed every night, even in the course of a week.

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#17 Posted : Monday, June 23, 2014 6:07:39 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Arctic; 580285]

2) will need to plan carefully exit points in case the water will be close to completion before you dry.

If you are dealing with road/port-towns 

Yes exactly, and any other information that could help in an emergency as emergency telephones, telephones of spring water or just of Malachi a trust for help.

[Quote = Arctic; 580285]

3) buzz walks: calluses, blisters, fractures, back pain, the chances of accidents, all increased as taking too much weight, no equipment and save on planning ahead, so very much to invest.

Did Sea Sea two weeks ago, and I plan to do more tours, what to do/recommended?

Her to Hermon, Meron mountains-it kind of defeated mount Shamai, mountain peak, mountain region, peki'in Kfir Golan, part of the northern area of Nahal kziv, betzet and Rainbow cave, Mount Carmel, Menashe. Not appropriate places for this period.

[Quote = Arctic; 580285]

According to national weather service data (even in light of my personal experience), the Negev desert climate allows for a safe and enjoyable trip for months.
(October 27 morning field-14, November 27-15 in Eilat).
In the case of warmer days, you can relax in the afternoon.
In addition, during this time can seem to relinquish heavy winter gear kg and the tent so that you can move with a relatively low weight.

I don't plan to take tent about km I don't so you know what to take winter gear (brass and only Hat)?

About the shcsh, see theanswer here.

If you sleep without a tent and hike an average not suffering from cold, so it is recommended that that the COMFORT surrounding kg + 5 degrees for the summer European standard. Less than can be borderline in high places, and much more can be too hot.

Winter equipment taken trophy/brass and a balaclava.

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#18 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:19:29 AM(UTC)
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Want to join yankele and went no absolute answers.
In General, there is a partial answer, beautiful for certain situations.
The duty to be careful and plan is for each and every one of us.

Arctic-the name of the game is to figure out what you stand every step of the way and plan according to the situation and your abilities.
Here in the Forum received (and certainly more receive) plenty of good tips,
But you have to figure out what all is right for you and what less.
Be careful and good luck.

-Substantive and see no reason to take a trip tent in autumn.
Nylon (or simple Tharp can buy cheaply on the Internet)
Will protect you from the little rain that you may encounter.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:53:13 AM(UTC)
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And way to go for without costs of landfills and toss.

Check here: http://shvilisrael.myfastforum.org/about2792.html

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#20 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 9:44:24 PM(UTC)
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Some canes are recommended for Israel?
I'm here in Slovenia and the prices are pretty cheap (I bought a local brand of weight rl65!!)
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