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io_travel  
#1 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:25:38 PM(UTC)
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Hi,

Before deciding on a tent. I have a little experience with no experience with tents ultralight\lightweight. tents Therefore, after consultation, decided to forgo tents such as the zpacks light hexamid but to be "minimalist" me, as tent lightweight (and probably expensive tent).

The two final competitors are:

** DW's Moment from Tarptent (which is probably the leading tent here in the Forum and get excellent criticism everywhere.)

** Six Skyscape Trekker Hopes Moon Design

I was already pretty closed about the Moment that looks like a masterpiece, the tent hot as hell

But while waiting for a response from Henry for some questions-I have a crush on the Skyscape Trekker hopes. And began to develop doubts.

Do I go for the Moment because he's so popular here in the Forum and see that good?!?!

I dug a bit, and think to Skyscape advantages even Trekker hopes by the Moment.

For starters:

** Configuration I choose (this and this), the light by Skyscape-250-200 g (1 kg 800 ~ versus ~). But not critical.

** The Skyscape (again, after all the Extras I choose both) get cheap about $ 60. In itself not a factor but ...

** The floor space of the larger Skyscape (2.2 m * m vs 1.7). True, there's beak and Moment to put up and I was a little girl as well (this is not critical for me floor) but ...

** The Skyscape in peak-Moment higher. To Smurf like me it shouldn't change much but ...

** If you decide to walk with this tent the next thing for me to do, Skyscape advanced version, easy-Trekker hopes Skyscape (currently not in stock). To this Moment there is nothing to advance it. If I go there, it probably won't be with TT, so why start with these? Yes, I'm not there yet maybe I will trek with tent and decide to return to the comfort of cabins. But ...

Certainly there are also advantages to the Moment.

** I think is somewhat easier for construction (although both the formation according to impressions).

** Free standing with optional rod (I definitely intend to purchase).

** 100%-it (hence, I guess, the difference 200גר)-80% du Skyscape (but the criticisms of him, no condensation problem from what I read).

** It looks like human engineering is really something-anything-what is yellow and look cute.

In short ...

I know decide alone (eventually I create impulsive, I decide at once "because" and not look back, I know myself) but I'd be happy if any of you have something sealed (or not) to say. Exciting purposes too (like the TT ") completely satisfied me.

One small request: don't offer me more tents!  Thanks!

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#2 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 5:22:42 PM(UTC)
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There is also a third option I'd recommend you buy the $ # * ^%.

Just ... Requested not to offer other options.

The two finalists are great. I have the old torque (monolayer, but construction and similar forms)-you are welcome to see him and to see if it will help you in your decision.

מומנט בלילה מדברי

The most TRKKER of the NOTCH I think, Hey, I promised not to offer other options.

Pay attention not only to the ground surface, but the available space – sometimes grads or angles of the walls reduce the effective space.

ל"התקדם 's consideration next tent is irrelevant to a decision.

sereje4ka1  
#3 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 5:35:55 PM(UTC)
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Not suggesting, asks, How not to Stratosphere Tarptent 1 discussion
io_travel  
#4 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 5:36:03 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, Harmonix?!?! Beautiful

io_travel  
#5 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 5:41:09 PM(UTC)
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I looked at all the TT and another single. Introduced here only the two I liked best.

I don't really see any advantage to Stratospire the Moment except space (less critical for me). He seemed a little more cumbersome/difficult to construction (6 pegs?), not free-standing in any way, I loved him as hamomant (although I'm sure it is great in comparison).

The TT models being me another but the most impressive moment for me.

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#6 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 5:51:34 PM(UTC)
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Because of the possibility to stretch my tent with 6 or even 8 (again my new TT SS2 requested another picket points) very stable tent in the rain, wind and snow.
Is one of the most important parameters for comfortable sleep.

Ultra light tents are not like tents like time and multi-layer dialogue designed to estimate which had tents. So me personally issue was blasts resistance is very important in buying the first tent and other
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#7 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 6:23:56 PM(UTC)
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Pay attention, too, how Henry shoots video of tents-always silent hair.

In practice where he can sleep without a tent, anyway?:-)))

But you will need to place it in the most extreme conditions.

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#8 Posted : Saturday, July 5, 2014 6:42:29 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Sergey. This further reinforces my conclusion that I should start something easy. Then as shethnsa and know more can understand if I want camping ibzurim (but then will go for something really easy "as zpacks or skyscape trekker hopes x). Weight is crucial for me, for the simple reason: if he is high I just skip the whole tent (but I really want to try). I'm no longer so young and never been robust. Anyway I really wild zone meanwhile have reasonable backups in case you understand conditions.

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#9 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 2:36:50 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = io_travel; 580548]

Thanks, Harmonix?!?! Beautiful

Yes, in Dune parking if you make a trail also tzdmani to Israel

By the way, after you closed on all equipment-recommends some sort of trip preparation in the country with him, to reduce the likelihood of surprises in Scotland (especially you not used to traveling with Lina).

Sending OS.

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#10 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:08:12 AM(UTC)
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Amber, I guess no not offer another tent, you're not going to like my response.

First period, I got myself an expert (anything really), and all my experience amounts to two tent (but heavy) and homemade products — even just AARP.

To the point;

In my opinion, you should devote a little more time to define the role of the tent out of the unique needs, requirements, organized and prioritized, begin to crystallize almost to her (as I understand it, the question which tent/backpack/km is good one floor below the question some tent/backpack/km for me).

Sample questions (only example I'm sure it will be easier on me to formulate the right questions for you):


Does the tent should be used as a backup only (as implied above)?
Maybe to go to bed (this also implies)?
(And being a father of two veterans. as a means of tackling the housing crisis?)
What are characteristics of their routes take a tent, weather and its consequences?
How likely would you pitch a tent flap mode only? Or Word only?
What soil conditions chance asked about sticking stakes?
What is the likelihood that they bmslulim get a tent, you have also a walking poles?
What are the chances you're going to have to set up the tent or disassemble it under the pouring rain (there are tents that enable establishing/liquidation/first rain sheet)?
What do you think is going to carry weight in addition to the tent, especially (if carry 2 liter of water only, as I recall, red tioleich are meaningless in my opinion to a few hundred grams of extra weight tent)?
Although still an enormous attention to weight, you must take into account another element, equally important in my view-volume. Whether volumes of tents and qualities suitable for pods?
Whether you're going to have to carry a tent outside the casing (and if so, whether the route of the barrier could compromise him (grandfather, for example)?
The tent is supposed to use to sleep? And, to read, to write blogs (I read them with pleasure)?
Some developers you need (I think the tent should be used in rainy environment, rather two openings-this course also price dollars and ounces).

(I think I made my point, you can continue from here if you want, of course.)

And the two above-I think my needs better torque-to conclude anything about the degree of suitability to the needs of another hiker.

io_travel  
#11 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:32:19 AM(UTC)
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State.

You're wrong about one thing only:

I liked the answer.

I think I asked myself the most questions. I'm not 100% positive that I could answer above, but they were all (except maybe the housing shortage issue. )

Help me, thanks

Eli TheHiker  
#12 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:02:59 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = io_travel; 580544]

Hi,

Before deciding on a tent. I have a little experience with no experience with tents ultralight\lightweight. tents Therefore, after consultation, decided to forgo tents such as the zpacks light hexamid but to be "minimalist" me, as tent lightweight (and probably expensive tent).

The two final competitors are:

** DW's Moment from Tarptent (which is probably the leading tent here in the Forum and get excellent criticism everywhere.)

** Six Skyscape Trekker Hopes Moon Design

The decision on choosing the tent (like basically all other equipment) must be based upon usage/maintenance of equipment his inhibiting so bitter at.

Weight savings for most jumps in large increments with the development of technology of materials (Silicon, Nylon, CUBEN TITANIUM, CARBON, etc.) and in small increments when you try to download the same technology but grams is how many more coming costs.

So if you use not specifically warned so I would go with a tent not so gentle like the tents you specified as a selection because I think they don't forgive mistakes like the heavier tents.

If you use so no warning big big difference between except maybe FREE STANDING tents, one/two evaporation capacity and weight.

If I buy today, so I'm looking for two FREE STANDING tent which CUBEN is varnish, and at least with two doors.

io_travel  
#13 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:37:48 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, Ali.

Cuben makes the story much more expensive and ... Much less (or easier). I hesitate to spend so much in the first tent. The design is six moon Cuben skyscape. The tents of tarp tent not Cuben.

The two I mentioned are Seeley-nylon.

I think I'll be using warning.

I definitely want layer. About two entrances/exits-not sure why this is important in a tent. I'm pretty sure if there will be some hits I go and always the same one.

Two tents I mentioned, I think the single most important factor is that the Moment was standing with optional rod which is what I'm trying to figure out just how much he means to me.

Beyond that still seduces me a difference of ~ 200 + g-but only if there is a significant advantage to the other tent.

The rest, seems much less important.

Anyway thanks for sharing your opinion here. I am learning even if at this stage the first tent eiisem everything.

sereje4ka1  
#14 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:44:49 PM(UTC)
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Someone experienced in CUBEN can report:

Strength
Water resistance
Nmatch is
How is breathing

Eli TheHiker  
#15 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:06:33 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = io_travel; 580567]

I definitely want layer. About two entrances/exits-not sure why this is important in a tent. I'm pretty sure if there will be some hits I go and always the same one.

It's not about the tent (although of course double tent also has the inconvenience of exiting without jumping).  This is important for two main reasons:

If there are strong winds and rain and had to leave the tent to the bathroom so I don't want to open the door in the wind that within seconds everything wet and you cannot always know what Greece top of the wind because it varies.

Long term, you're trying to be cautious, Richard (zips) destroyed over time when moving entered dirt/dust/overuse and therefore better 2 doors in General, especially since it doesn't adds almost a weight (I think a few dozen grams, although I didn't check that).

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#16 Posted : Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:17:24 PM(UTC)
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I put all the hooks of zippers. Keeps them pretty good, and the perfect closure
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#17 Posted : Monday, July 7, 2014 6:36:51 AM(UTC)
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An interesting discussion is a stunning picture, picture hormonik alone are longing and very beautiful!

What is candle wax? What with wax? Can come into consideration?

sereje4ka1  
#18 Posted : Monday, July 7, 2014 7:45:12 AM(UTC)
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Just take a candle and rubbing with the rizertz the two sides closed. Then open and more on each side.

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