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stardust  
#1 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:11:39 PM(UTC)
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Less than a month ago-TMB and returned the plans for next year are already beginning to take shape, but don't want to wait.
Year to the next exit, I started looking for a suitable destination for the autumn following us. Something not too long,
Say two weeks, maybe a little more. Thus came the idea to travel to Nepal, from what I read there are no months are October-November
To travel there.

And here I sit hours in front of the computer trying to formulate myself getting strategy, but it turns out that when operations
Not exactly cheap, and requires a few decisions receipt and even requires a measure of creativity.
I got dizzy from all the airlines that do part of the insurgency, and not heard of before, and reading
Reports on various forums about airplanes flounder who almost never take off on time at remote airports you can find yourself
Awaits them days to fly on long trips and more crowded buses here and other hardships and things that await you.
Before you got to the starting point of the Trek.

In this forum I found a neat summary of Nepal (of course I read Amber's blog, he has a big part in my decision to go there)
And so will the welcome anyone who can volunteer a tip to make some order regarding the arrival there in particular, and all about the logistics of departure for Nepal.

In addition, hasn't made a decision on a particular route. My inclination is to go the «EBC and the question is what is the minimum time period, including everything you need
To complete a course?

Any reference will be.

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#2 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 1:09:48 PM(UTC)
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You haven't been looking hard enough.

Here are some examples:

Everest

Annapurna daolgiri

To angetang

Dolfo

Hope this helps you

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#3 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 1:43:54 PM(UTC)
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Thanks a lot, there's quite a bit of information and food for thought.

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#4 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:43:16 PM(UTC)
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Hi starry,

Yes, it's a bit of a headache to reach Nepal. The long flights and price varies but it's definitely not cheap out (compared to Europe).

This means two things:

1. spend time with your back.

2. because the cost of the flight, a short trip to Nepal not getting so cheap (because on ingredient is significant).

In addition, Nepal is not an adventure you can plan it day to day. This is because (for better or worse) not a ticking "like clockwork." And because Nepal has ... Digest (I don't know if it's already in the Eastern promenade but not only scenic experience, this is another world, another culture).

Cancelled flights, bus trip of 5 hours grows to 8, abducted indigestion and you passed out in some Godforsaken guesthouse.

In addition, there is the (critical) of growth. I don't know what your previous experience, but it's something that's hard to watch him head on one side and on the other hand, is largely dictate the pace. I like the wonderful zdachlati in the foothills of Everest. Any step I but not altitude acclimatization needed more days than recommended in the literature and having trouble breathing when I went.

So what am I trying to say?

Everest is the number one target and he required and not think for the moment I'm trying to convince you not to go there – on the contrary! You have your own.

But ... This isn't something "tick" which shmtepna crack of time in October (that's Scotland. Eh, just a joke, feel free to ignore).

I sharpen: personal reasons, tovisit Nepal's first, it makes no sense to fly unless you have something like a month.

Up here the first part of the comment (and iaseti) from now on, I promise to be positive and try to help

In 2012 when flying to Nepal was very unusual on flyeast to arrange your flight (der I organizes and performs everything alone, even hiking and skiing). Like you, I be familiar with all the options.

In those days, cheap options would significantly through Jordan and Turkey had followed the flight path but I ruled from flight through Muslim countries ". In addition, I looked for a brief stop in India don't warrant me out from the field nor put me where "hours (I'm starting to sound like myself are so spoiled ).

Eventually, through the options given to me I chose to fly with up to Milan (where I stopped for I'm so awful-hate this constant flights so long. Spoiled) and then with Jetair flight to Delhi and three with the same company to Kathmandu (so I've heard of this company before, was fine).

I don't remember how I came up with the exact card but it was something like $ 1200 (approx. 200-250 dollars more than the cheapest option, it is worth).

I came toKathmandu and could set up real quick and get out of there for but ...

First I was a little shocked. I went (about a day) from internal inverter yuk gross I want back to Milan to exciting! I can enjoy myself here. It sounds stupid, it could disappear from Kathmandu and fly to pick up faster and save myself the shock (apparently not well-read below the "except") but ... Why Culture is a big part of the experience in Nepal. I really needed this time.

Besides (besides? ". Also when I sat at the airport with a card (papplo)-hand-canceled flight (due to weather) and I had to go back to town and spend a day and return the next day to the field (and it's not a rare thing).

About along the Trek . The more the merrier!!! In truth. What are the odds back to Mt. Everest?

I took my time and got to taste a lot of the other tracks are missing and have enough time for acclimation. I really can't imagine going that route according to f!

Yet (I promised be positive and supportive. ):

11 days is a minimum minimum you can design for «EBC (and without delays in Kathmandu, lukla because flights, and other diseases lthm).

(My) conclusion: 11 days TREK + Kathmandu two days + 4 days Balthazar = ~ 17 days. Add flights. 20 ~ days.

Look, I'd feel really bad if you don't get the droppings that Trek ever find a month? Or can one years to mobilize this month and go "properly"?!?!?! (I've waited 10 years for this trip, it was huge and was largely because I think I did it right).

Hope I helped a little bit (write receive reference!  ) And the host (or the future) I promise to try to help even more!

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#5 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:56:47 PM(UTC)
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Most forgotten excavation advice which I think is very important:

Try to anticipate the answer!!!

It is true that October is considered (on average) per month more convenient. But it is expressed in billions of travellers on the route. It really is critical especially for anyone who follows the classic «EBC (there and back) without side valleys.

I know that September is the month of the monsoon transition season. But from personal experience — worth more "suffer" some rainy afternoons (had only two of these and two of every morning and cloudy in other days was clear!) and go for almost totally deserted. I think we should definitely venture out in the second half of the ptambr (say around 20). Although all matter of luck-'re last year surged in October, a snowstorm that prevented many serious and complete.

I realized how lucky I only started back down the Valley from «EBC combo and met a swarm of humans.

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#6 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 7:38:30 PM(UTC)
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Amber, thanks for the detailed reference and mhakima.
Apparently benefited from European trek back to designing Trek Nepal is in enemies, because it emphasizes the difference between ease and convenience being slammed Europe for difficulty and complexity of planning a trek in the far East, which may cause frustration.

The realization that I may be too hasty to go on this journey I had somewhere, but the things I wrote make something that should give him attention more seriously. I have to see how long do have to pay for the journey, and maybe change programs.

Having never visited the far East, nor in the "third world", I can see the initial shock experienced. Me this first encounter triggers all kinds of daunting. There are number of Everest a trekker hopes's guide Kev Reynolds
(You mentioned your blog) episode called "before the departure" (page 45) talking about the physical and mental difficulties that this journey, exit and need to put aside the values that we are used to and embrace different values and even contradictory. After reading this book I got suddenly understanding that in somewhere I want to go on this trip despite these difficulties, but rather for them.

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#7 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 7:49:59 PM(UTC)
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No doubt we should do switch in your brain when you get to the East. I really feared it and see there mirrors (per person). But there's also so much beauty. (And I'm certainly not talking about view). In the mountains it is much easier, it can be difficult. And good that this difficulty appealing/exciting out there.

Just one thing I need to fix Nepal: logistics is very easy (in terms of organising the Trek). Maybe because it's hard to stick to accurate planning it "release" and the trip flows really easily. She just needs time and patience. But it's really not hard to trip-vice versa (after booking the ticket).

Ah, I remembered one more thing: there are plenty of vaccines. And it is impossible, it is not advisable to leave.

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#8 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:14:31 PM(UTC)
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I recently quite a few with tickets to Nepal (flying there this weekend ...). There is indeed a lot of options. Two important tips if you pay a little better: first to fly until a few days before Rosh Hashana (or Tabernacles) and back up a few days before Sukkot (or at least a few days after Sukkot). If for example you want to fly in late September and return in mid-October to pay a fine "holidays" of hundreds of dollars. II. search separately in Israel-India flights (engine skyscanner-best (and India-Nepal) makemytrip (for some reason the search engines can't find your discount combinations in this path.
I think Nepal very easy to stroll in every way that is. Although Europe, and good thing.
Join amber that really don't want to trek Everest in time pressure. This is due to the combination of two high-risk flight delays due to weather, acclimation to altitude required, and multiple side tracks and it's a shame to miss (gokyo Valley, צ'וקונג, etc.). In my opinion, require at least three weeks (gross) Turk, and preferably more.
Join INBAR also the recommendation not to trek in the high season (October). It's better to start third in September or November.
If you're limited to less time to trek is better not depend on domestic flights. For angetang, the Lakes, Annapurna base camp with to POON Hill can match, or even rotate Annapurna if you have two and a half weeks. In these less trekking peaks compared to Mt. Everest (though also quite useless), but more diverse views, and see real villages also don't really exist on Everest. Everest won't run.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:32:02 PM(UTC)
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With the holidays about to land us and occupies portions of September-October doesn't seem to work out for me

Out during the holidays or before. And to celebrate the new year or Sukkot in exile in habad House with couple

Hundreds of rowdy compatriots is not something that is on top of ambitions (and I hope I don't sound arrogant ...)

And it's nice to know that once you fly to Nepal and matters to the beginning of the Trek resolved everything becomes easy and flowing

(Which, of course, if you don't get altitude sickness, if you care to purify the water, if you get vaccinated if you are pramits,

If you don't catch any upset stomach if. ).

But seriously, I've read your blog you seem to fit there perfectly inspires respect and enjoyed every minute of it, and it is sweeping.

By the way, how to travel with a tent?

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#10 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:07:34 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = zvikamr; 581068] dealt quite recently with tickets to Nepal (flying there this weekend ...). There is indeed a lot of options. Two important tips if you pay a little better: first to fly until a few days before Rosh Hashana (or Tabernacles) and back up a few days before Sukkot (or at least a few days after Sukkot). If for example you want to fly in late September and return in mid-October to pay a fine "holidays" of hundreds of dollars. II. search separately in Israel-India flights (engine skyscanner-best (and India-Nepal) makemytrip (for some reason the search engines can't find your discount combinations in this path.
I think Nepal very easy to stroll in every way that is. Although Europe, and good thing.
Join amber that really don't want to trek Everest in time pressure. This is due to the combination of two high-risk flight delays due to weather, acclimation to altitude required, and multiple side tracks and it's a shame to miss (gokyo Valley, צ'וקונג, etc.). In my opinion, require at least three weeks (gross) Turk, and preferably more.
Join INBAR also the recommendation not to trek in the high season (October). It's better to start third in September or November.
If you're limited to less time to trek is better not depend on domestic flights. For angetang, the Lakes, Annapurna base camp with to POON Hill can match, or even rotate Annapurna if you have two and a half weeks. In these less trekking peaks compared to Mt. Everest (though also quite useless), but more diverse views, and see real villages also don't really exist on Everest. Everest won't run.

Many thanks for the interesting and helpful information.

If you don't mention this, so I'm going to get to the end of October (after the holidays) and an asset for that matter up from November.

How this period in terms of congestion and flight prices?

I don't know if I ever get to go back to Nepal and therefore do not wish to settle the question of which slammed out. I'm impressed.

(And maybe that's the wrong) that most mass around Annapurna and more settled and I naturally was drawn to more places are primitive, so

I thought if I have been coming to Nepal so we should strive to reach Everest. True, Everest won't run. But who knows how long we

Another gets here, so the sooner the better.

And what do you mean when you write "real villages"

Flight and return safely to school experiences!

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#11 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:06:48 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = stardust; 581072]

Many thanks for the interesting and helpful information.

If you don't mention this, so I'm going to get to the end of October (after the holidays) and an asset for that matter up from November.

How this period in terms of congestion and flight prices?

I don't know if I ever get to go back to Nepal and therefore do not wish to settle the question of which slammed out. I'm impressed.

(And maybe that's the wrong) that most mass around Annapurna and more settled and I naturally was drawn to more places are primitive, so

I thought if I have been coming to Nepal so we should strive to reach Everest. True, Everest won't run. But who knows how long we

Another gets here, so the sooner the better.

And what do you mean when you write "real villages"

Flight and return safely to school experiences!

Late October and November is a very busy season in Nepal. In terms of flights it can go both ways. Suggest you just quit and buy.

At the end of the day, $ 200 (just an example) shouldn't be what stops you from chasing after a dream. And it's one that is not really a millionaire. ... Fulfill your dream.

Rotate much more indeed Annapurna hordes but much easier and accessible. The question of what is right for you. What can the What age? What state of health?

The Everest Trek a lot more demanding.

About tent. Because I know you're going to go for popular routes so you can come with your tent, but you find it non-useful. You have every village and guesthouses scattered along the Trek so you sleep well with them. You already see that relatively easy to find a place to stay, especially when you're way over the line. I.e. above 3500 feet. And Everest because the trek starts as it spook height approaching it more relevant.

Guesthouses so cheap (compared to Western countries?) you'll see that anymore. Chnel about food.

I think (could be wrong) that real villages that had not yet hurt tourist when. Although I must say that if you stick to the Annapurna route like everybody else, so it's not true.

Eyal

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#12 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:05:21 AM(UTC)
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Of course, that $ 200 one way or the other which insures that there is no stop me to go on this trip, and I live from month to month. What's more important to me.
Possible arrival times and thus make more time in.

I think I'm in pretty good shape. Ya got yesterday from Sayeret Matkal, but I think I can meet almost any popular Trek even if the word name Everest. But what will it ease and accessibility and therefore also consider delicate spin, Annapurna

About tent had a thought like that, I just like to sleep in a tent. Thanks for helping me decide to give it up. I understand that km since should take

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#13 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:22:04 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = stardust; 581076]

Of course, that $ 200 one way or the other which insures that there is no stop me to go on this trip, and I live from month to month. What's more important to me.
Possible arrival times and thus make more time in.

I think I'm in pretty good shape. Ya got yesterday from Sayeret Matkal, but I think I can meet almost any popular Trek even if the word name Everest. But what will it ease and accessibility and therefore also consider delicate spin, Annapurna

About tent had a thought like that, I just like to sleep in a tent. Thanks for helping me decide to give it up. I understand that km since should take

Look ... In principle there are flights of Turkish and you can reach Nepal within 15 hours including waiting in Istanbul. The prices accordingly. That is the $ 2000 to around October.

Don't worry if you fit in reasonably good health and weight so you keep trekking.

Access to Everest, assuming that you don't have to start because Blues a little crowded says you need to take flight to locla. And there you are already at the beginning of the Trek.

You should be aware about the heights. The locla straight start at altitudes should be considered so adjusting to heights is just the first day.

About the common, Annapurna is rated and graded slopes. Big Bill is that horses and donkeys and therefore are not acute angles. True that there are quite a few people on the Trek but it can also have a nice inside, friendly staff. (Me personally this appalling). More diverse views and value changes to the topography and landscape. Annapurna to take about four hours drive from Pokhara (as of 2009, and I don't think that's changed much). And extension depends on you.

I would recommend you to stop like 99 percent of most jazz today but to keep down the Kali gandaki and POON Hill to go to Pokhara.

This will give you a beautiful journey of three weeks and feel great from exhaustion. Back to Pokhara takes about an hour and a half from the end of the von.

If you want to expand even further you can also connect the Annapurna base camp and create yourself a track of about 3 1/2 to 4 weeks. Depends on how fast you're going and/or want to go.

Another thing you can try is to go backwards. I mean with a watch Greece the Annapurna. Something that very few people do. Just be careful in terms of heights rising to pas la ת'ורונג. If you go that route still meet people but the experiential special.

Another option is not to cross through her ת'ורונג but through טיליצ'ו. But they need help logistic days because it is not a mtweir and need ropes and equipment. You can rent equipment and manang guide if you choose.

You need to either bring Kobe from home or rent in Nepal.

Eyal

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If I had a choice in August or September:

I'd drive to the Santa Cruz Trek in Peru hoarez perhaps even combines with the alpamayo base camp.

Very different from the deadline, Nepal treks for hikers, of course the habad House and making holidays a little name change the picture that I have great affection anthropologically to hvdenikim and I can't travel abroad without them.

But if the matter is not trek to understand space to the Holocaust.

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#15 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:33:22 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = stardust; 581076]

Of course, that $ 200 one way or the other which insures that there is no stop me to go on this trip, and I live from month to month. What's more important to me.
Possible arrival times and thus make more time in.

I think I'm in pretty good shape. Ya got yesterday from Sayeret Matkal, but I think I can meet almost any popular Trek even if the word name Everest. But what will it ease and accessibility and therefore also consider delicate spin, Annapurna

About tent had a thought like that, I just like to sleep in a tent. Thanks for helping me decide to give it up. I understand that km since should take

If you go the TMB in so few days (with tent)-not restrict you in «EBC. Your problem is going to be or not to be (!)-handling height (which has no connection to fit). I got slammed in good shape and tnsmati and still increases and gasped out loud as I had to stop every time to take (when I say I mean also lifts up the stairs to the second floor the ... ). I met a lot of people (young and old) height is almost not affected but you know. I think we should prepare for the worst. It probably won't happen. Even if not terrible is happening. Sound body, giving him the time he needs and he surrendered. It's more of a mental struggle (especially those who usually go faster relative).

About tent: I bumped into some official tent (for example on the way to Gokyo Macherma). But given that Lina had between 100 to 200 Nepalese rupee a night guesthouses (provided I ate there too)-something like 5-10 $ ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

That's what food comes in. But it's also either in Western scale! I can dig through my notes but I'm pretty sure I left with more than 1000 rupees per night including food (like, 50 NIS)-I'm pretty sure much less fabric! (See at night and fix if needed).

I took apart but I know miachutz in low season to settle also had blankets-liner thing (although I really enjoy my warm and fragrant bag, had some rough nights). The season-take miles!

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[Quote = naty_h; 581081]

If I had a choice in August or September:

I'd drive to the Santa Cruz Trek in Peru hoarez perhaps even combines with the alpamayo base camp.

Very different from the deadline, Nepal treks for hikers, of course the habad House and making holidays a little name change the picture that I have great affection anthropologically to hvdenikim and I can't travel abroad without them.

But if the matter is not trek to understand space to the Holocaust.

Annually,

Some routes in Nepal you won't see local even for days and even weeks. Who wants to be alone can find it in almost every country and mountain space.

Can you give some serious summary of routes in Peru? I would love very much to read.

Eyal

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About "real villages": I really enjoyed the villages trek to Everest (in the regions). Maybe it was because I didn't know what "real" Nepalese villages. Then while I have went also the von Hill and rural experience indeed. And still ... I love you very נאמצ'ה, the match (after day side trip II at namch), you (perhaps my favorite village in tiny, though), the קומג'ונג and Kunda (near נאמצ'ה, pension) and the דינגבוצ'ה (at the bottom of the Valley combo). Higher than that, there are no villages anymore gstavasim volumes (actually it is pretty too). That means you mostly meet country life and especially not meeting kids (or almost all). In addition: the route they must find enough (probably נאמצ'ה). I did not bother to ... Maybe the fact that eight this season contributed to it.

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I think the comment of Zvika about trekking of long, accessible is very correct. What do you do if the Everest trek back you get stuck for three days in the locla (not uncommon!) because you can't get flights?

Simple: missing my flight back to Earth.

Therefore: you just such treks can't take extra days.

However, hiking as ngtang + frozen lakes (there are no frozen October) + lmbo (check you have enough days to Trinity) you came walking a large distance from Kathmandu (about half an hour if I'm not mistaken) then you can be much more certain terms.

(Not the Trek but I have to do this year in October and finally decided to give up because I have only two weeks). Maybe it makes more sense for a while, although I think if Everest this is your dream then try to find time to go on.

(BTW-Ellie's ad?)

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[Quote = stardust; 581076]

Of course, that $ 200 one way or the other which insures that there is no stop me to go on this trip, and I live from month to month. What's more important to me.
Possible arrival times and thus make more time in.

I think I'm in pretty good shape. Ya got yesterday from Sayeret Matkal, but I think I can meet almost any popular Trek even if the word name Everest. But what will it ease and accessibility and therefore also consider delicate spin, Annapurna

About tent had a thought like that, I just like to sleep in a tent. Thanks for helping me decide to give it up. I understand that km since should take

Although I wasn't still in Nepal, but I read a lot on the issue in recent weeks in preparation for the Trek I'm coming also inNepal in October.

For those who have not been in altitudes above 3500 in recommends checking in advance a special sensitivity to the heights atWinGate's facility because it is something that has to do with fitness and depends on genetics and can change significantly any planning.

In addition, all the summaries that read, living in Nepal is much slower than we're used to the trip should look like this and you don't want to cram a short time range average because all these surprises can be (height adjustment, weather, strikes, etc.).

About tickets, booked the ticket a month ago before the recent policy issues and then the difference between a flight via Amman, Qatar for flight through India was about $ 200 (FLYEAST), but added an average of two days. It was possible to lower the costs if the order was directly through the websites of QATAR AIRWAYS and organizing getting self Amman (equal to group). Now because the political mess, flights via Bangkok, India/Turkey speed (13-18 hours total toward) captured quickly and prices rose considerably especially around the holidays. Various forums I read that you can also find flights through Moscow, London and other cities to Kathmandu but it requires more connections.

Anyway, I think if you have just two weeks so it is better to walk in busy places and wait for another opportunity to travel to Nepal.

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