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איתי  
#21 Posted : Sunday, September 14, 2014 11:33:11 PM(UTC)
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Jonathan.

Thanks for the Paragon

About the questions.

There is no need to use arms or "take", at passim, path arises in between steep it is a zogazg product in a very sharp slopes-particularly in tens of meters close to La Paz. The TMB hasn't done, but never encountered-similar slopes.

However, some of them very steep land, "released" (it's not free, more like volcanic ash in terms of stability of the ground) and combined with the sharp slopes creates the need for caution, but not about a particularly sharp slopes.

I have no fear of heights, so it's kind of hard for me to evaluate your ability to cope with those scenes. But I can testify that at least in one section-rising from Col de la Vallette-Paz investigates the first day (when the image here), I felt a little lack of confidence. Also Col de l ' Aup is a very steep Walk from La and I guess if I had to lose him, I felt the same feeling.

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#22 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 2:17:49 AM(UTC)
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Great reporting!

Information, great photographs that illustrate the topography (knee hurts anymore:-) And I really liked your story with the G54.

I see a stream of hikers following this thread, like a thread on venoaz.

Well done on the investment

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#23 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 6:50:12 AM(UTC)
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Thank you! (-:
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:35:40 PM(UTC)
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We returned this week from a very special and beautiful.

As already stated, and not just more challenging. TMB or AV1 (for my taste).

The big advantage-tourist and only very little French.

There are no simple and long days (at least me) her 1,400 meters and 1,700.

The reasonable accommodation and good food.

In the rain, we should think very carefully before you leave (there are some really dangerous.)

In mid-July at least has in one pass.

I think we should go just after the first trimester, in order not to be disappointed with rain/snow and problematic passages.

To sum up – was great!!!!

Getting there : we got through flight to Geneva ($ 390), where there are shuttles to Grenoble (50-60 euros): two hours.

From Grenoble take the hour drive (taxi) to the trailhead (1968 chose because I wanted to buy equipment). We bought a gas the Decathlon in Grenoble, at La Grave.

General map :


Height sections : 2.pdf 1.pdf 3.pdf

Equipment transfer/taxi : the issue isn't cheap. But who still need or want: TAXIS-SERT MARC TAXI D ' OZ

Phone: 96-99-87 06 41-33 +

Www.taxi-oz.com


Days:


Le Bourg d ' Oisans Besse en Oisans to

Besse to La Grave.

La Grave Monetier les Bains to

Monetier les Bains to Vallouise-(I originally decided to give up for lack of days)

-Vallouise to Refuge du Pre de la Chaumette

-Refuge du Pre de la Chaumette to Refuge du Gioberney

La Chapelle to Le Desert

Le Desert to Valsenestre

V?nosc-Valsenestre to

In terms of schedules: I have to say we haven't progressed according to schedule on the signs

Today from La Grave Monetier les Bains-long day for my taste (at least 8 hours net) and must take into account that it is very beautiful and you want to stop and experience the scenery.

Today from Refuge du Pre de la Chaumette to Refuge du Gioberney took us nine hours (8 net) and continue further in my opinion detracts from the enjoyment. This is the day we enter into

It's (amazing)-you have to remember there are at least two serious ups and a total increase of about 1,400 meters.

Our last day was from V?nosc-Valsenestre and fromCol de la Muzelle until V?nosc long had.

Recommend someone with time to stop in the Muzelle.

Today we took 8 hours (9 net) and the entire decline was exhausting (1,700 1,800 meters) after an increase of 1,400 m.

Accommodation:


-Grenoble (wifi)

-Besse (wifi)

La Grave (wifi)

Le Monetier les Bains (wifi)

-Refuge du Pre de la Chaumette (no wifi)

-Refuge du Gioberney (no wifi) and no phone coverage.

Le D?sert (wifi)

-Valsenestre (no wifi in the area) and there is no interception of telephone

-Grenoble (a taxi picked us up from V?nosc)

Total accommodation level was reasonable and the food was okay.

The negative must say unfortunately the Refuge du Pre de la Chaumette (bad food, bad attitude)

Want to specify billing:

1. Refuge du Gioberney (reasonable accommodation, good food and amazing mix)

2. leberanger Valsenestre-gite: the owner is a nice genuine love, was excellent, food was reasonable accommodation +

You can book only by phone.

Advance payment: we, although there was a deposit requirement in three places (EUR 50 +) called and talked and finally confirmed not to pay.

Descending towards Muzelle cabin

Monetier les Bains, La Grave to

Transitions at approximately 400 m snow

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:07:40 PM(UTC)
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Encourage, Hayat. Give a detailed review. I'm counting on this route to one years

Edit (14:20:00). OK, thanks for the encouraging, but please expand a little more on the hard days, like that of 1700 m and how long it took.

Whether you're flying through Turin, via Geneva or direct flight to Grenoble? How to stay level in the villages? You want a track that did

Edit (00). Thank you encourage other requirements not innocent ...

It seems to me more likely to get back on track with a rental car through Turin or conkshin flight to Grenoble.

I will look into the issue further when that would be.

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#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:17:10 PM(UTC)
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Great!

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#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:16:41 PM(UTC)
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Cheer. Or ... Or whoever did the track.

Did mark the route on this map online is?

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#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:29:49 PM(UTC)
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Add my experience:
1) violation de La Cabana wheres as mentioned here known as worst cabin and cottage owners also do not allow camp nearby, but in a very remote area cabin and stones.
Me serious rain that day and had to stay in cramped rooms and jammed and was insanely hot-one of the worst nights I've had.
I didn't order a meal-used kitchen, who since I realized that food was boring. French pair brought food that heard bad reviews about the food. The problem is the location of the cabin are pressing a different Division of days but beautiful day possible assuming they do.

2) reduced Lake's cabin in the picture. you can camp on the other side of the Lake. The cabin looked very good on the outside but close to the usually congested. There is a kitchen for own use.

3) by transfer story witel Lake. Hope I'm wrong on one of the most beautiful places.

4) about the arrival (Amnon) worry easily accessible to one hit. I took a bus from OULX (train station an hour drive from Turin), where it's easy to connect brinson. In return, screw-doosen high frequency buses in Grenoble GARE SNCF have doll.

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#29 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:56:09 PM(UTC)
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Thank you everyone for the listing.
Where gaggag is the witel? Or his name in French? I'm going to do at the end of the summer and want to make sure I didn't miss, if he is as beautiful as you say.
Cheer-seen travelling tents?
And if anyone can add information about the specified millennia on the map? (54A, 54B)
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:19:28 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Itamar; 640746] where is the witel?

He is here

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#31 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:55:32 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the helpful report
Getting ready to go for at the beginning of September.
Q: where can I obtain gas balloons (flare)?
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dede  
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:45:58 AM(UTC)
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We took the Decathlon gas balloons in Grenoble
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:48:46 AM(UTC)
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Amnon,
About map you sent
I didn't check leads to the witel.
A reduced cabin has 2 ways
איתי  
#34 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:08:41 PM(UTC)
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Dede-enjoyed:-)
About witel-marked trail and is even on the main route of the gr54 (I wrote about the tenth day of my trip) – one of the heiliits-recommended!

Amnon-no problem to get a stuffed into orbit are Milan (as we are) and c (away returned to Earth), just take into consideration travel each day if Greece rely on trains/buses

About the itinerary you sent, I'm currently not in so not really looked, but I'm pretty sure I got my gps recording if you want.
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#35 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 12:36:12 AM(UTC)
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Someone might have done between Monetier les bains to Modane- Checking option to connect this route to vanoise Park.
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#36 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 7:52:16 AM(UTC)
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I think Arthur was doing something on the via alpina

I think the gr5 connects the parks.
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#37 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 1:45:13 PM(UTC)
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Itamar-although I wrote this I did, but I realized that the GR5 is definitely a very nice part of the season for Mount Tabor-Thabor. Keep in mind that the connection is 3 days.
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#38 Posted : Monday, August 1, 2016 4:55:47 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Amnon Paulose; 640739]

Cheer. Or ... Or whoever did the track.

Did mark the route on this map online is?

Amnon, that you check the last day is marked there variation C (about dede went), the main route through the extension to the witel and from there down to the bolt.

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