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sereje4ka1  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:24:47 PM(UTC)
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I'm going with 2 pairs of socks (liner + Reno) without blisters.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:18:36 PM(UTC)
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Desert hiking, thick warm socks Marino are like the Lowa shoe too.
At least that's my experience, but it probably also depends on the structure of the foot and its adjustment lock

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#23 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 4:20:12 PM(UTC)
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I feel much more comfortable with Marino that without socks
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:37:19 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = sereje4ka1; 584455]. And חברה׳ you thought it was impossible.

[Quote = 584426; daniel rozalis.]

I don't know any less than $ 950-960 (but with discounts of glft card etc)
But good luck.

Say for myself I said that's possible with glft card

I'm going with Marino minutes thinnest type which is also convenient.

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:56:15 PM(UTC)
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And experience with LOWA: a few miles she holds you?

Please Note Please also if weight is not a secret.

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#26 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:00:13 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = 584462; daniel rozalis.]

I'm going with Marino minutes thinnest type which is also convenient.

This is great. Marino is exactly what deck should be for Israel.
I went out in the desert with a leather shoe terzta + favorite sock and foot.

A common mistake of thinking that a thick sock gives good protection against blisters.
In general this is true but not at high temperature.
The solution of liner works but how much walking in two layers? Very few.


Yankele. The Lowa mine lasted almost three years. Or, if you like, about 1000 km

But the sole was pretty worn after approx. 700 km.
Until today, my trekking shoe since 1985 she held me as long (2000 km) was author of Salomon
She was holding three-quarters apalazim trail in 1993.

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daniel.rozalis  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:53:13 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 584463]

And experience with LOWA: a few miles she holds you?

Please Note Please also if weight is not a secret.

I'm with the Renegade and weighs 82 kg my shoe right now just over a year, mostly through the Judean desert tours daily dialog with medium weight back (food shcsh water daily changed), short trips in Europe (Carpathian Mountains in Romania) full course transfer guides, two snowy winters, sole looks like a dusty, but in very good condition (I'm not one of those guarding the shoe and make wax etc.).

She had previous Pacific crest and gravity 2 of Mammut. Took them comfortably and now probably through attrition.

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#28 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:02:28 PM(UTC)
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1. [quote = matan91; 584454] easy update

I bought the shoe shop of Israel thanks to the discount of the registration card "paid $ 860

What is the shop of Israel? How much cost without a membership card?

2. in the past, only walks I wear two pairs of socks. Liner Socks and thick socks.

Today, due to friction in the ankle problem in almost every outing I wear two pairs and it helps a lot

Maybe buying new shoes.

3. seems excessive to me to invest $ 1000 shoes that last about 3 years. At that price I expect to give prolonged consideration shoes.

4. Why do you think tilapia mirel relatively soft shoes may make trips in the country and abroad required something much tougher? Who goes a few days back, equipment in the Negev soil, full of sharp rocks not required for sturdy shoes?

I for one like to walk in the rain if there's snow, too. No need to vest waterproof cases?

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#29 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:53:05 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = S.K.; 584468]

[Quote = matan91; 584454] easy update

I bought the shoe shop of Israel thanks to the discount of the registration card "paid $ 860

What is the shop of Israel? How much cost without a membership card?

These three extensions of stores called Colombia Israel trail, without the Member's card ' they rise about 1000 NIS

But since no additional paid them full price of $ 1200 with a card that gives 30% off

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#30 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:55:07 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Amnon Paulose; 584464]

Yankele. The Lowa mine lasted almost three years. Or, if you like, about 1000 km

But the sole was pretty worn after approx. 700 km.
Until today, my trekking shoe since 1985 she held me as long (2000 km) was author of Salomon
She was holding three-quarters apalazim trail in 1993.

my first shoe was of old Oslo in 2005. I went with all the training, all for sequentially and continued to go about 1000 km.

Today nobody does shoes hold for so long, even old Oslo.

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#31 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:59:35 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = matan91; 584469]

These three extensions of stores called Colombia Israel trail, without the Member's card ' they rise about 1000 NIS

But since no additional paid them full price of $ 1200 with a card that gives 30% off

is the reference to ' friend ' report over properties?

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#32 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:02:57 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 584471]

[Quote = matan91; 584469]

These three extensions of stores called Colombia Israel trail, without the Member's card ' they rise about 1000 NIS

But since no additional paid them full price of $ 1200 with a card that gives 30% off

is the reference to ' friend ' report over properties?

Referring to the card Member's yellow glft.

The store is part of a network of stores importer called Saar, together with Colombia and some branches of outsidres or however you write that sells in the shop what he imports (Colombia, MHW Valois, tatonka, iisbriiker etc),

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#33 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:26:38 AM(UTC)
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It is a member of KH and qualities
As Daniel said the card is a member of the type of gift card money claim glft
For that matter, say $ 1000 card but acts committed over $ 700 ($ 1000 for 30% off plus 20% off 1000 every month)

Of course only in respect of the card (to be honest the first place expensive pleasures)

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#34 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:52:38 PM(UTC)
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Really today not produce shoes that will last over time.

There is less manual sewing and scrapbook a lot more sensitivity.

In 2001 at the PCT had shoes Lowa's. but hang on until 2010 (and then they broke up mainly from lack of use)


From my experience, Rabbi Israel, Moab Merle's certainly enough and I use it for quite some time in deserts.
The price of the land ranges from $ 400-550 depending on the operation. Sometimes it even goes down to $ 350 in the U.S. that's Slipper $ 200

I buy them in shops in the United autletim Merle operations 1 + 1 and the same gift for friends.

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#35 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:50:10 PM(UTC)
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Agree 100% or more according to Amnon.
There is no reason and need to invest a great deal (and aggravation), ב"נעלי Heroes" (sign of our military heritage).
Shoe should be easy as long as she lasts-depending on readymade garments.
I personally find the withdrawal time longer than the shoes PS buy shoes and skirts, not GORTEX, keep as keep, trying to ignore all kinds of articles and reviews are basically just fussy.-American Exchange!
At the time I spoke to some vertex ב"למטייל", and I asked him why they rarely get such excursions shoes? The answer was that there is not enough space in these shoes than pay to convince that life in some backpacker ASOLO POWERMATIC 400, "holding your foot." (1.9 kg, size 46), and in addition to three days of drying-GORTEX in case nirtvat-1200 NIS.
Asked once whether orthopedic shoe (BOOT) keep better on my ankle? The answer was: have you ever seen a football player with shoes like these? Aren't they have lots of ankle injuries.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:16:38 PM(UTC)
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There is not enough space in these shoes. He's right.

Take for example the Moab of Merle sold to u.s. citizen $ 100 but 1 + 1
I mean the actual price is $ 50 per couple and the importer will probably get them at a discount on large orders.

Therefore the price rally of the importer would be something like $ 35 per couple and he pays 18% VAT plus 12% customs.
It brings it to the price of $ 45 dollars in the country on the shelf it according to the dollar a day gives a $ 175 tomorrow.

This importer over the cost of unloading, storage, transport and other nonsense that the price to $ 200 in value.
Retail price is $ 500 which gives $ 300 that's divided difference between importer to store (if the store is not the importer).
So if that's what you get for $ 100 bucks's shoe, it's pretty simple to figure out what's going on in the shoe of a $ 200 selling in the range of 1000-1200 NIS
The Lowa renegade importer can sell at $ 600 and still earn very well
But the country's $ 600 price tag as a medium quality shoe. Good shoe should sell at $ 1000 after rebate from $ 1200
This is the psychology of the consumer in the country which is great and dealer.

For every 10 couples store should sell renegade 20 pairs Merle Moab for a space like this is not an easy task.
It is better to persuade buyers to go with "professional" shoe with dual internal shock absorber and carbon fibers, laces

The main thing is to get the wallet and pay the $ 1,000.

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#37 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:34:35 PM(UTC)
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I use too like Merle's Moab (the low)-my mind them noted in thisdiscussion.

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#38 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:41:00 PM(UTC)
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Well, I was afraid to join the discussion so far that I thought my shoe "postit". but yes, call me, and I'm addicted to Moab Mid Factor (Gore-Tex version to be safe in abroad). Just last week I bought a new pair after last brought soul to Sandler.

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#39 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:03:54 PM(UTC)
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Add to all this, due to the limited market size, as more expensive shoe is "טריה"פחות the importer in the filling, and reasonable chance you get a shoe with dry skin, and out-of-date, then after a period unlikely soleus suddenly decides to break up with your footwear. (With TNF's shoe).
In general I would advise anyone who buys shoes, check the manufacturer's website which shoe model (Yes, as in car) sometimes change is just a color, or design, but if it's not Blaine, it is advisable to stay away from her and not be tempted ל"מבצע"זה.
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:53:17 PM(UTC)
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Speaking of TNF shoes ever bought a pair of their belay on cost price of about 300. Win shoes say a lot, but I've traveled with them they broke in, and really really fast. I was in the East and found a place to buy shoes, so I just gave them to Sandler who them back. Since I have a daunting global products of this company. Feel like a worse product. cover Jeep
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