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#41 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:53:54 PM(UTC)
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Damage by the shoe after a period unlikely: even bought my shoes hurt, mega sports and after two small tours in Israel is starting to fall apart completely (not her shoe).

We went back to the store, and no questions take the shoes back and invited her new spouse without any additional cost. Beautiful mega sports credits or importer, or both.

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#42 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:02:15 PM(UTC)
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An interesting debate with far-reaching insights.
My mind still 3 points.
1. is in the ground and the rocks do have shoes on 1000 NIS?
2. no country for rock hardness, in rain and mud are all day? Is the answer to provide miral.
3. I don't travel light but then again Altera is my roof weight of winter days TREK with full equipment including tent, food and water is about 15 kg at the beginning of a track. Is the will by miral

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#43 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:35:31 PM(UTC)
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I think alpine trails several times easier than shoes area in Israel.
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#44 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:08:58 PM(UTC)
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S. K.
Try to answer the question: how expensive shoes (and) know how to make shoes non lacking reference?
The heavy rain-all nirtvot.
With mud-it's no fun to go. Not the ones not.
"Isle rough"-I'd like to do a lateral sole and finally see how "absorber" of shoe, let alone let alone, "double" shock absorber.
Awarded "shoes"-total by foot, it's not iktzoa a mountain climber, alpinist, it iktzoa it iktzoa ....
We all try to download as much by the equipment that we carry on the back, and that we cannot afford to lose either our shoe requirements.
Incidentally, the barrel as an example, there are dozens of manufacturers, some even dignified, simple models in price range of 50-100 $ (in course).
I recently purchased, by the ALDERMAN SALOMON shoes skirts, no GORTEX VIBRAM, 700, without causing 52$, I'm sure they won't let me down, because I don't expect them too.
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#45 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:38:34 PM(UTC)
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In the eight years I've had tps old Oslo. (Two pairs) heavy indeed (I just over 700 GR) but not the strong crop had failed.
Not under weight load, not the land of the Negev. Not in the rain. No snow and no definite wallow action day in the marshes of coal springs (the Golan). Always trust them.
For that matter if they penetrate me shoes and water, it likely would have dropped me off the trail.

Lowa's shoes not recommended friends here little weigh approximately 500 live learning 43 (30% less than hasolo) seems to me to meet the challenges as uploaded here.
The only problem is the price tag of pain amirl

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#46 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:50:05 PM(UTC)
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In the eight years I've had tps old Oslo. (Two pairs) heavy indeed (I just over 700 GR) but not the strong crop had failed.
Not under weight load, not the land of the Negev. Not in the rain. No snow and no definite wallow action day in the marshes of coal springs (the Golan). Always trust them.
For that matter if they penetrate me shoes and water, it likely would have dropped me off the trail.

Lowa's shoes not recommended friends here little weigh approximately 500 live learning 43 (30% less than hasolo) seems to me to meet the challenges as uploaded here.
The only problem is the price tag of pain amirl

I don't think you can compare miral. You seem more like a shoe trekking hiking shoes and therefore should focus on the relevant category.

Hypothetically, if you knew a double rhythm rubbing amirl. LOWE, so that price you get locked to the same time, you still choose miral?

First of all define needs, such as the type of lock, the weight she should meet (including weight), with/without Gore-Tex, etc.

Then narrow by price, and then you can measure candidates.

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#47 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:58:24 PM(UTC)
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Gr20 route as of jagged rocks, I wouldn't want to lock the Moab.
It's not because of convenience but mainly because the shoe will fall apart pretty quickly there or truncated.
Also in high loads of 18 + kg would prefer a more professional shoe like the Lowa
There is also the psychological thing. $ 1000 brand lock serious, like lock Mercedes, Ferrari, etc.
It firm to pick marl/cheap/:) disadvantaged

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#48 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:16:09 PM(UTC)
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After all the praises and recommendations on LOWA RENEGADE the question whether a different model of LOWA (or another company), maybe a little less and still with good performance but with a lower price tag.

Number of pairs of shoes in the model shop LOWA's were most comfortable and good perception of the foot. I tried echo company's model and a oasck and maybe more ... Yet just before I'd love to hear about another model recently.

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#49 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:30:04 PM(UTC)
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I tend to ה'גיבורים boots. There is a chance that more psychological hate to go this way.
And S.K. Lee, Zamberlan boots have an Italian company respected. Shoes, and I think this company less public relations in the country and is generally cheaper.
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#50 Posted : Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:46:41 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Itamar; 584492] I tend to ה'גיבורים boots. There is a chance that more psychological hate to go this way.
And S.K. Lee, Zamberlan boots have an Italian company respected. Shoes, and I think this company less public relations in the country and is generally cheaper.

Companions, the only companies in the country that actually produces in Italy, I got to see and functional in case the STORM of their massive and more their high hiking model that looks great.

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#51 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:06:37 AM(UTC)
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. S. K-$ 860 price equal to purchase the Renegade
It is true that United could find them at $ 150 it approximately $ 600, but for the price and those really shoes at a very high level.
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#52 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:19:37 AM(UTC)
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So, I am now under construction in the new House. My wife wants to buy curtains for the living room. Her friend bought some curtain in 4000. OMFG! I'd rather buy something cheaper (500) and replace once every two or three. It's also not like that and I'm not afraid of imas three children to draw/cut/burn the curtain. So also in shoes. I think it is better to buy two pairs together used to 1000 than one pair of expensive and heavy iron to it. Besides notim people buy expensive shoes because they want. It has no rational justification. Come to me! I bought running shoes from Saucony Hatori inimlisthiot that the manufacturer undertakes to meet 500 km until pachachh he I did them almost 2000.

Instead of talking about whether it is suitable or not suitable for thus the sneakers (I sure have) no matter what the situation. Make a day trip of 20 miles with a backpack and see. This figure which is better. And if you figure that you really need the heavy boot of Peking ASOLO for example, at least don't get sucker like me who purchased her friends recommended it. ASOLO POWER MATIC. $ 400 NIS 1200 collect abck in the warehouse.

About the rocks. I travel solely with shoes. The track in the Eilat mountains (including mountain Solomon did get on Trailroc a 235 Innov 8 470 made casts d had no problem but different people and I understand that.
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#53 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:11:36 AM(UTC)
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The POWER MATIC to give my best regards to your add, too, that they're sorry you cannot see, are also busy sitting in storage nlelot.

In fact, they remind me of the American cars of the 1960s-70 (who remember): type of aircraft carriers, with a volume of 5000-7000 CC power, was designed to carry himself.

Who is their lack of effectiveness is invited to visit Detroit.

And everyone ridiculed so Japanese producing cars weighs nothing, motor lawn machine (u.s.).

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#54 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:51:51 AM(UTC)
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I have a friend's card and cheap right now I found is no 960 wok HoD Hasharon.

My brother just in New York but it returns only towards the end of March and I'm afraid my shoes, his shoes that won't last until then, anyway check with him. This could be the perfect solution.

And to serve, at the got access logic, in my case it looks like more than once and the answer of my instrumental shoes protect the foot and left me on the path in the other cases (some incised thick skin of old Oslo are reminders)

And I mentioned that I bought two pairs at $ 740 so that part of the price is no exception.

Long ago, in the middle years of Trek in Spain, flew me dice solia reichla shoes and again that penetrated me and then I promised myself I wouldn't settle for low-level shoes.

As true Harmonix (and as I am also not) all about requirements and rezoned.

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#55 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:01:34 AM(UTC)
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First period today I traveled only in Israel, as well as my technical understanding for limited types.

I have nowadays three pairs of shoes:

A. old Oslo t GPS shoes girls five years-most of which travelled along the path Israel for the Golan Heights in the late winter. Now I wear them only to high tracks or mud floods in the Judean desert. Will buy news/who will get moldy similar? Don't. I think there are better and cheaper alternatives, at least provided the land.

B. Merle and ntitor shoes and airy skirts girls three years ago – I traveled to throughout the journey and Sea Doo/daily in a variety of areas planted. Today I use only-routes and only because they are still operational. I think they are inferior in many ways space run shoes. Note: I refer to Merle and skirts to shoes Merle models.

C. field Sprint shoes of Solomon-like girls I went with them for a few days and dialog in the Judean desert (including a track which carried water to the two other hikers). So far I think they do; They are very comfortable, airy and light. Being a little low to jump with them, but steps that disadvantage in 1960. (This is my second experience in the field of turf Sprint shoes new line after alales daily 3D, but served me in some rooms, daily report after at least 500 km running).

A number of General considerations: safety-before I was thinking mainly of passive safety, and preferred high shoes. Today, after I had hundreds and hundreds of miles in loafers, I think and hope that I can avoid trouble in shoes. There is a safety element, one that I haven't been able to predict the purchase amount, and leveling of the wet rock sole (if anyone knows a way to watch it, I'd love to learn).

In this regard too-I've changed my mind; I think the main consideration is reducing the wear on the soles of the feet. Therefore, ventilation and comfort considerations as earlier opinion to the structural strength of shoes.

C. I know resistance tear resistance and to examine the risk that locked together in the middle of the track. The incident it described SK indicates that even heroes shoes could fall apart in the middle of the track.

D. versatility-dialog and practical ethical considerations, I think I'd prefer the shoes can be used for hiking, jogging, and walking. So, when I can't trust more on shoes for long, yet they could serve me a task around the House.

5. price-shoes are the only Member that I shall (all the other items I purchase second hand-we produce and consume in my opinion too many new items that are used used). So, apparently, can invest more. However, I have known Nahum and Greg--instead of investing $ 1000 a pair, I think better to purchase two pairs of shoes for turf Sprint (one couple waiting at the Center if we go to Israel), or a pair of space + Sprint shoes simple, cheap high.

And testing alternatives-cheaper alternatives that may fit your mission? The Forum is the place to test the air. I learned, for example, you can go on wet tracks and demanding Colombia simple footwear, beating the United States in may, and Merle Haggard to go almost every route in running shoes.


Small end and still couldn't figure out the difference between trekking shoes, hiking shoes and what is the difference between terms: walking distance? The weight is carried on the back? The height to which Palestine? Conditions such as ice and snow? Thanks to respondents.
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#56 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24:45 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = go; 584499]

C. I know resistance tear resistance and to examine the risk that locked together in the middle of the track. The incident it described SK indicates that even heroes shoes could fall apart in the middle of the track.




Small end and still couldn't figure out the difference between trekking shoes, hiking shoes and what is the difference between terms: walking distance? The weight is carried on the back? The height to which Palestine? Conditions such as ice and snow? Thanks to respondents.

Treat briefly to two points above:

It's my shoes on the verge of dissolution, I knew, the fact that they broke up in orbit. They don't fall apart in shoes?

Interest categories, such as the type found in EVA soft trip shoes is all soft, easy and better shock reduction on his crash resistance versus lower weight. (Built as two squares of squares).

A person with high self weight or/and bearing weight on my back well with PU type absorber prefers the heavier it, almost as good, but more resistant to crashes.

There are quite a few combinations between the two types of dampers and specific usage in different concentrations of the PU allowing torture of all strengths. On the one hand good braking and low weight and crash resistance in critical spots.

One example is of course the skin thickness and strength of the global epidemic will be expressed, using stitches, a rigid plastic frame that preserves the miderch without distortion, ring protecting the sole for plague, various reinforcement etc.

Every company has its defenses and improvements and the shoe is designed to trkinig and good company will use these protections and add-ins and quality materials, lighter and stronger.

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#57 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:29:40 AM(UTC)
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The difference between trekking hiking shoes shoes is derived from difference between trekking to heiking. Go to trekking area for a long time (Trek) which means a lot of irtvot-drying cycles, the route changes, heavy loads, etc. The port is heiking shortly. About TMB for hiking. Israel's continuous trekking trail. Therefore, and according to this, lock the lock is more massive trekking is hiking shoe. She has more protection and strength. This of course results in weight loss. I went on a trekking boots Lowa PCT with that weight 2.2 kg shoe easy MOP 1000 km without serious abrasion marks but I fell apart and then made shoes for work boots in the winter garden. They lasted until the summer of 2010 without any treatment then almost the sole just broke her as a unit. Today in olterliit age there is no reason to buy trekking shoes. Maybe it's worth considering if you are planning a winter itinerary.
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#58 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:07:29 PM(UTC)
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Thank you very much.

Crash and relief-it is common to say that a dead Sprint, each leg position, force three times body weight. Walking, hiking, power operated. If so, you should expect that quality space run shoes, meant to absorb more energy and a tendency to collapse than walking shoes. Where I am wrong?

-Some terms use the term Theroux in hiking trails such as the PCT is the term includes another component differs from trekking? And might be synonymous terms?

I forgot to mention that with the gradual transition to running shoes, I downloaded the same weight I carry.
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#59 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:51:45 PM(UTC)
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Theroux's continuous walking hiking trail. You can go to the PCT in three parts (California, Oregon, Washington) and still be trekking but not thru hiking. Why call it thru and thru hiking trekking? That the two just doesn't ring well and sounded like a Crown on purpose. Again, I repeat, any distinction between a hiking trekking is Paton's own anachronistic. For a long time were exported with 25 kg on his back and it had high shoes (lots of skin) with breakneck sole. Today olterliit day only inexperienced going into a long trek with a pod of 18 kg mostly around the 10-15 kg (food and water) and no more need to leverage the massive shoes that made casts like concrete and dry in 3 days. Theroux low shoes easy hiking is common today.
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#60 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 2:09:33 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = S.K.; 584498]

I have a friend's card and cheap right now I found is no 960 wok HoD Hasharon.

Need to negotiate. In WALK IN particular can bring them back.

If not, just try and make reservations through BUY2USA and a week at home.

Tell them too that you buy WALKIN in Mara ioridot, if they don't you should soften them.

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