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matan91  
#1 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 3:03:38 AM(UTC)
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Hi, for the planned departure for Chol, below the list.

I will walk the path from South to North.

There are two weeks late so no trip to hear your opinion and make changes accordingly.

Basic equipment

Shoes 1362 g
Gregory backpack 65 l ltoro 2550 g
The root 3 l. locker made 216 -replaced shorter pipe 213 g

UTA adapter equivalent 18 gram
MontBell sleeping bag Down 800 Hugger # 3 687 g weight
Leiner silk 135 g
Platib-mattress was one I can't find out how to buy,
Cover double Sea to Summit mosquito Nano weight 137 gram
Map to guide for 360 gIsrael, after cutting a track North267 grams
Black Diamond spot headlamp head 90 grams

Flashlight led Banzer backup K2 weight 17 grams.
Bear Grylls Compact blade weight 26 g
Sunglasses Rudy project radon 27 g
Fabric case glasses 10 g
Compass Watch (ambit sonto) 78 g
Easy Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork 492 g weight

Clothing

Travel pants apart Colombia 360 g (according to manufacturer), 322 grams after weighing two pairs = 720 grams dropped one pair
Running shirt 104 g short-takes me two shirts = 208 g
Thermal shirt for dinner and bedtime Icebreaker Sprint Crew weight 200 g (also considered.)
Underwear based on running shorts- 105 g takes 3 = 315 g take 2 = 210 grams
Hiking socks- 91 made one pair for sleep and for cold days
Walking socks running short socks 3 pairs = 45 g- 135 g take 2 = 90 grams
Neck cold (like hot neck but the opposite) 27 g
Wide brimmed hat 82 grams
This root Sandals 748 grams
Laundry bag 51 g network
Deciding whether to take warm gloves, neck, or face mask for cold nights

Food

Simple applications see p98 181 g (without balloon)
Windscreen-made aluminum thick paper tomorrow and consider
Cookware Set Solo2 weight 650 g
16 g 're letting her in one single dairy and meat = 32 g
Lederman Sidekick 198.4 g weight
14 grams lighter.

Have to prepare a set of spices, oil, etc., not included in the calculation of gas


Religion

Fringe 396 g
Tefillin 433 g
About tefillin carrier already gave up to light weight, recommendations for something easy that still retain the tefillin and dignity?

Entertainment

Power Beats headphones and vaginal weight 60 g
Sansa Clip Player weight 24 g

Unlocked with 185 g shield (also serves as an arrangement and camera)

Camera (compact) haven't decided whether to take

Charges have not yet considered

Missing:

Remediation system

First aid

Hygiene (a towel I don't intend to take)

Right now in terms of equipment on his back about 7.9 kg(after downloading the one set of clothes, shoes, sunglasses and sticks)

I'd love to list reviews, tips, additions, changes and receive criticism.

So far, 635 g broke the case going on:-) 7.3 kg

Edited by user Monday, March 23, 2015 2:16:34 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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HarmonicWave  
#2 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 6:10:24 AM(UTC)
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Quick look like this:

[Quote = matan91; 585208]

Hi, for the planned departure for Chol, below the list.

Quit as soon as possible. The desert makes bread every day.

Basic equipment

Shoes 1362 g
Gregory backpack 65 l ltoro 2550 g - respect, but if that's what you're comfortable with marble.
The root 3 l. locker 216 g
MontBell sleeping bag Down 800 Hugger # 3 687 g weight
Silk liner- 135 g no need in terms of temperature, maybe just to keep the bag clean, but not justified.
Platib-mattress was one I can't find out how to buy,
Cover double Sea to Summit mosquito Nano weight 137 gram
Map to guide for 360 g Israel (according to the recommendations of the cut North)
Black Diamond spot headlamp head 90 grams

Flashlight led Banzer backup K2 17 g weight
Bear Grylls Compact blade weight 26 g
Sunglasses Rudy project radon 27 g
Fabric case glasses 10 g
Compass Watch (ambit sonto) 78 g
Easy Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork 492 g weight

Clothing

Travel pants apart Colombia 360 g (according to the manufacturer, I have not considered)-two pairs = 720 gramsno need for two pairs, one is enough.
Running shirt 104 g short-takes me two shirts =- 208 made as v. consider going with a breezy shirt/shelter, funkier head band-Israel from sun radiation.
Thermal shirt for dinner and bedtime Icebreaker Sprint Crew weight 200 g (also considered.)
Underwear based on running shorts- 105 g takes 3 = 315 g
Hiking socks- 91 made one pair for sleep and for cold days
Walking socks running short socks 3 pairs = 45 g- 135 g
Neck cold (like hot neck but the opposite) 27 g
Wide brimmed hat 82 grams
Sandals this root- 748 g heavy better mind Crocs cheap camp at night (or other soft slippers).
Laundry bag 51 g -mesh nylon bag?.
Deciding whether to take warm gloves, neck, or face mask for cold nights- I ski hat, warm neck.

Food

Simple applications see p98 181 g (without balloon)
Windscreen-made aluminum thick paper tomorrow and consider
Cookware Set Solo2 weight 650 g - very probably could pass on certain things, to replace the pot easier.
16 g 're letting her in one single dairy and meat = 32 g
Lederman Sidekick 198.4 g weight- you can give.
14 grams lighter.

Have to prepare a set of spices, oil, etc., not included in the calculation of gas


Religion

Fringe 396 g
Tefillin 433 g
About tefillin carrier already gave up to light weight, recommendations for something easy that still retain the tefillin and dignity?

Entertainment

Power Beats headphones and vaginal weight 60 g
Sansa Clip Player weight 24 g

Unlocked with 185 g shield (also serves as an arrangement and camera)

Camera (compact) haven't decided whether to take – I think we should, although of course not necessary to have a Smartphone for post-minimalists

Charges have not yet considered

Missing:

Remediation system

First aid

Hygiene (a towel I don't intend to take)

Right now in terms of equipment on his back about 7.9 kg(after downloading the one set of clothes, shoes, sunglasses and sticks)

I'd love to list reviews, tips, additions, changes and receive criticism.

Have fun and stay safe.

Eli TheHiker  
#3 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 9:21:48 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = matan91; 585208]

Basic equipment

Shoes -1362 g by weight, these are high rigidity and mioacht if new shoes altogether, so recommend these remaining weeks to go with them anywhere to adjust, or suffer from warts.  
Platib-mattress was one I can't find out how to buy,. If you are used to sleeping on the ground so it is better if you don't 11 cm, 15 cm.

This root Sandals 748 g- If you don't trust the (daily news without breaking too old that may fall apart) preferred flip-flops ease.
Deciding whether to take warm gloves, neck, or face mask for cold nights. Recommend simple gloves and face mask and a minute I can make a hat.

Lederman's Sidekick 198.4-gram weight , wrote up taking blade of griles, fit most needs.

Don't know what your planning regarding water, but after the recent rains have many backs so be sure to carry filters, chlorine, iodine tablets to purify the water, especially in the southern part.

Amtrak  
#4 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 9:44:18 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = matan91; 585208]

Hi, for the planned departure for Chol, below the list.

I will walk the path from South to North.

There are two weeks late so no trip to hear your opinion and make changes accordingly.

Basic equipment

Shoes 1362 g
Gregory backpack 65 l ltoro 2550 grams heavy casing I would trade in a backpack that weighs a third of it, but it's no small expense.
The root 3 l. locker 216 g locker has the heavy drinking that made casts bags less than 100 grams.
MontBell sleeping bag Down 800 Hugger # 3 687 g weight
Leiner silk 135 g , more.
Platib-mattress was one I can't find out how to buy,
Cover double Sea to Summit mosquito Nano weight 137 gram
Map to guide for 360 g Israel (according to the recommendations of the cut North)
Black Diamond spot headlamp head 90 grams

Flashlight led Banzer backup K2 weight 17 g don't need if it will satisfy you for networks at night, I'd give the other headlight.
Bear Grylls Compact blade weight 26 g
Sunglasses Rudy project radon 27 g
Fabric case glasses 10 g
Compass Watch (ambit sonto) 78 g
Easy Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork 492 g weight

Clothing

Travel pants apart Colombia 360 g (according to the manufacturer, I have not considered)-two pairs = 720 g enough one pair. (I think also shouldn't fall apart, but if that's all there is.)
Running shirt 104 g short-takes me two shirts = 208 grams is sufficient one shirt.
Thermal shirt for dinner and bedtime Icebreaker Sprint Crew weight 200 g (also considered.)
Underwear based on running shorts- 105 g takes 3 = 315 grams are sufficient two pairs.
Hiking socks- 91 made one pair for sleep and for cold days
Walking socks running short socks 3 pairs = 45 g- 135 g enough two pairs.
Neck cold (like hot neck but the opposite) 27 GR -highly recommended item I've lost mine.
Wide brimmed hat 82 grams
This root Sandals 748 made much too heavy for just better camp shoes slippers.
Laundry bag 51 g network
Deciding whether to take warm gloves, neck, or face mask for cold nights

Food

Simple applications see p98 181 g (without balloon)
Windscreen-made aluminum thick paper tomorrow and consider
Cookware Set Solo2 weight 650 g don't know what's best, but it's only one small pot.
16 g 're letting her in one single dairy and meat = 32 g
Lederman Sidekick 198.4 g weight of more
14 grams lighter.

Have to prepare a set of spices, oil, etc., not included in the calculation of gas


Religion

Fringe 396 g
Tefillin 433 g
About tefillin carrier already gave up to light weight, recommendations for something easy that still retain the tefillin and dignity?

Entertainment

Power Beats headphones and vaginal weight 60 g
Sansa Clip Player weight 24 g

Unlocked with 185 g shield (also serves as an arrangement and camera)

Camera (compact) haven't decided whether to take

Charges have not yet considered

Missing:

Remediation system

First aid

Hygiene (a towel I don't intend to take)

Right now in terms of equipment on his back about 7.9 kg(after downloading the one set of clothes, shoes, sunglasses and sticks)

I'd love to list reviews, tips, additions, changes and receive criticism.

klum  
#5 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 10:24:30 AM(UTC)
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"Cold Gorge"-what is it?
HarmonicWave  
#6 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 10:39:31 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = klum; 585213] "cold neck?"

Bandana-like or other thin cloth to shade the neck and neck area (in an airy). Can be useful.

klum  
#7 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 11:19:12 AM(UTC)
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I have according to the description of something called BUFF.
Http://www.buffwear.com/
Very useful as a bandana, hat, hat with hair, protective film, just a rag.
HarmonicWave  
#8 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 11:45:19 AM(UTC)
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Yes, that's the idea. Definitely a useful item to me (especially in relation to the zero weight).

matan91  
#9 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 1:01:30 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = HarmonicWave; 585209]

Quick look like this:

[Quote = matan91; 585208]

Hi, for the planned departure for Chol, below the list.

Quit as soon as possible. The desert makes bread every day.

Gregory backpack 65 l ltoro 2550 g - respect, but if that's what you're comfortable with marble.
Silk liner- 135 g no need in terms of temperature, maybe just to keep the bag clean, but not justified.

Travel pants apart Colombia 360 g (according to the manufacturer, I have not considered)-two pairs = 720 gramsno need for two pairs, one is enough.

Running shirt 104 g short-takes me two shirts =- 208 made as v. consider going with a breezy shirt/shelter, funkier head band-Israel from sun radiation.
Sandals this root- 748 g heavy better mind Crocs cheap camp at night (or other soft slippers).
Laundry bag 51 g -mesh nylon bag?.
Deciding whether to take warm gloves, neck, or face mask for cold nights- I ski hat, warm neck.

Cookware Set Solo2 weight 650 g - very probably could pass on certain things, to replace the pot easier.

Lederman Sidekick 198.4 g weight- you can give.

Camera (compact) haven't decided whether to take – I think we should, although of course not necessary to have a Smartphone for post-minimalists

[Quote = Eli TheHiker; 585211]

[Quote = matan91; 585208]

Basic equipment

Shoes -1362 g by weight, these are high rigidity and mioacht if new shoes altogether, so recommend these remaining weeks to go with them anywhere to adjust, or suffer from warts.  
Platib-mattress was one I can't find out how to buy,. If you are used to sleeping on the ground so it is better if you don't 11 cm, 15 cm.

This root Sandals 748 g- If you don't trust the (daily news without breaking too old that may fall apart) preferred flip-flops ease.
Deciding whether to take warm gloves, neck, or face mask for cold nights. Recommend simple gloves and face mask and a minute I can make a hat.

Lederman's Sidekick 198.4-gram weight , wrote up taking blade of griles, fit most needs.

Don't know what your planning regarding water, but after the recent rains have many backs so be sure to carry filters, chlorine, iodine tablets to purify the water, especially in the southern part.

[Quote = On; 585212]

[Quote = matan91; 585208]

Gregory backpack 65 l ltoro 2550 grams heavy casing I would trade in a backpack that weighs a third of it, but it's no small expense.
The root 3 l. locker 216 g locker has the heavy drinking that made casts bags less than 100 grams.
Leiner silk 135 g , more.
Flashlight led Banzer backup K2 weight 17 g don't need if it will satisfy you for networks at night, I'd give the other headlight.

Travel pants apart Colombia 360 g (according to the manufacturer, I have not considered)-two pairs = 720 g enough one pair. (I think also shouldn't fall apart, but if that's all there is.)

Running shirt 104 g short-takes me two shirts = 208 grams is sufficient one shirt.
Underwear based on running shorts- 105 g takes 3 = 315 grams are sufficient two pairs.
Walking socks running short socks 3 pairs = 45 g- 135 g enough two pairs.
Neck cold (like hot neck but the opposite) 27 GR -highly recommended item I've lost mine.
This root Sandals 748 made much too heavy for just better camp shoes slippers.
Cookware Set Solo2 weight 650 g don't know what's best, but it's only one small pot.

Thanks for the responses.

Updates

Basic equipment

Lowa shoes are rngide, also affected one weight (46)

Probably not alachif case it. It is also very comfortable despite weighing.

Liner I take just to keep it shcsh the easiest I've found. (Warm days can be used instead of shcsh).

Doubt can backup light replace head light, I downloaded it. -Savings of 17 g

The shlocr weighs 125 grams, another 91 tube, the main advantage here comes in the form of patented root called UTA, highly recommended!

I found a shorter pipe 87 g

I trimmed the book weighs just 267 g (is cut to pieces and three weeks to replace?)

Clothing

I get one, but I take a sleeping and Reval instead. Weight 322 g pants -savings of 200 grams

On the other it's kind of hard for me to give up, but I narrowed it down to underwear and socks, though it seems a little fishy.

The sandals are really heavy, weighing whether to get flip-flop instead, although it can be used on wet tracks or occasional foot ventilation.

Also really new shoes and trchacho yet.

A great bag laundry mesh experience especially if you have wet clothes, and serves as a pillow at night (with clean clothes inside)

Following the recommendations, take ski Hat-consider and

Cooking

The deal probably cooking with more partners, and parts of it will leave home (waiting for the shipment to arrive to consider and review)

I haven't made a decision about the South, I'm happy, is recommendations to purify, to plant or camel (less ...)

Edited by user Monday, March 23, 2015 2:18:10 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

afix  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:37:02 PM(UTC)
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The heavy gas burner your recently was the BPL wrote a fan on a gas burner 25 live weight at $ 20:
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/...Camping-Stove-Gas-Burner Outdoor Cooking-Stove-25g---BRS-8000t/261596613395

"Religious" heavy equipment-sure lightweight replacements?
הלך  
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11:34 AM(UTC)
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Before I try to give out didn't go along the path, but in humans for several days (some more than once). In addition, I don't claim to understand too. Ask you to take that into account especially when opinion contradict my predecessors are experienced and well versed than me.

Water/backpack I question how you intend to manage with water, is the most important questions first. Travel carry bag that allows President needs weight and bulky. The traveler relying on the landfills or bumps can be small and backpack. Recommend to answer this question first before you choose a backpack, and basically.

Backs-I think there are two types of backs:
A. blank backs.
B. blank backs unless proven otherwise.
I think it's pretty even in winter, in April.

Pants, I prefer trousers fall apart but only steep increases period, during which the Sun is not beating down, and no space.

I prefer shirt t-shirt shirts and long, funkier head band-Israel has a high sunscreen. She has many advantages: sleeves or folded as needed, open the ventilation buttons when moving with the Sun, the protective collar neck from the Sun and friction Strip camera (if you take, and below).

-I think we should prefer high lighting power head torch holder in case you get caught into the night will just (Only passed because the night walk initiated can be dangerous and is prohibited in nature reserves).

-Camera: meeting with disclosure is that culmination of each track, so me personally necessary photographic has big zoom Nevertheless, I would recommend mclami also took a camera view plus, to prevent other competing uses the same battery.

Cookware-used runway in her alternative offer, but acquired it following the recommendation, and it is easy, inexpensive, and can be obtained instantly: pot + lid + jachnun little carrying handle ("Primus") weighing 220 g rise together about 80 shekels. Pot size enables carrying gas cylinder and the President (perhaps required grinding of shaft end).

Socks/underwear-tracks days members I take three pairs: a pair of couple leaves dry on the cartridge, and another couple. Kelly equipment travelers satisfied with two, or even one pair (probably in more spoiled.) Can I start with three couples and if you satisfied with less, send the pair home from mitzpe Ramon.

Most importantly, a good trip-take care of yourself and of course also on nature.

Edited by user Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:27:19 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

חתול  
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:34:14 AM(UTC)
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About the tefillin onthe Red Guide Introduction (trust called three times at least) offer to keep the top of the tefillin boxes and put them inside two bags. Haven't tried it (I haven't had a chance yet to explore walks very unfortunately) but yagil who wrote the foreword must be tried.

שחר  
#13 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 3:06:17 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = afix; 585263] your heavy gas burner-was: BPL wrote a fan on a gas burner 25 live weight at $ 20:
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/...Camping-Stove-Gas-Burner Outdoor Cooking-Stove-25g---BRS-8000t/261596613395

"Religious" heavy equipment-sure lightweight replacements?


I tried to get into the story, it costs money. Read it?
The gas burner really work or her face very little property and removed falls, she holds a small fall or break?
Anyone read the story or that he has such a gas burner to give opinions.
raanan_t  
#14 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:46:18 AM(UTC)
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I purchased the a hotplate.
It is a very nice product though not suitable for heavy cooking ".

Suitable especially for use with relatively small pots. In my case, only cooking, I use the s?r?al? Medrese of 10 cm which is perfect.
Already happened I used pot diameter 15/17 cm and was great although when mixing it was necessary to hold the lever pot.

In terms of physical strength, she did not break a little fall. Anyway, she's so small you can storage in pots and she protected good.

In my opinion, cool a hotplate. One of the really nice products.
You are welcome to come see, touch and try. (Camberley)

BTW, regarding the windscreen:

When it comes on a hotplate, it is important to ensure that the windshield heat radiates not on gas tank which could be dangerous. You can create a windscreen that sits above the tank, so the tank will remain "open" environment.

afix  
#15 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:35:17 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = dawn; 585310] [Quote = afix; 585263] your heavy gas burner-was: BPL wrote a fan on a gas burner 25 live weight at $ 20:
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRS-Ultralight-Camping-Stove-Gas-Burner Outdoor Cooking-Stove-25g---BRS-8000t/261596613395

"Religious" heavy equipment-sure lightweight replacements?



I tried to get into the story, it costs money. Read it?
The gas burner really work or her face very little property and removed falls, she holds a small fall or break?
Anyone read the story or that he has such a gas burner to give opinions.

I read the article. Who checked it kind of stove fuel specialist and wrote favorably about her based on actual usage.

However, the review was from BPL shorter (i.e. spotlight review) rather than a standard examination (review).

To your question:

The pot support is about 85 mm radius, which is fine for beer can pots but users with larger pots will need to make sure the pot is centered timings will not resize. My MSR Titan pot has an indent in the base which fits nicely over the pot supports, so that works.

About durability was an interesting comment about the matberg to:

The threads (red line) are rather ... than aluminum anodized brass. This works, is to manufacture cheaper hostel run by and comes out lighter, but we know aluminum threads can be damaged more easily. If you are gentle with the stove they will last a fair while. This means you screw the canister onto the stove gently, and you keep the threads in the stove and on the canister quite clean. If, or when, the threads wear out, all that will happen is the stove will not lock onto the canister anymore and you won ' t get any gas out. Not perfect, but fairly safe.

His summary

It's very light, it's very cheap, and it works fine. It seems to be made quite well too. Treat the threads gently and it will last a fair while. Don't fiddle around too much when attaching and detaching it, to minimize any gas leaks.

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