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גיא-נובי  
#41 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:19:46 PM(UTC)
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Hi there,

I מ'נובי Gorge.
We have also a Holux M241 device. Those interested are welcome to contact me.
Thanks to those who view our rental option here!
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#42 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:48:07 PM(UTC)
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Hey Arthur:

Take a look here. Maybe it's a simple compass with different accuracy.
I'm not sure but I think the difference is that there are 30 outside Maldegem compass three axes (don't know what that means, it says in the manual), while that of the 20 No.

Have until tomorrow (inclusive) 20% discount on products at REI. You can get this at a good price (less than $ 150 before shipping).
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#43 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 6:57:49 AM(UTC)
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AA lithium batteries. Sold a router at $ 7 and last for a long time.

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#44 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:49:06 AM(UTC)
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I wanted to ask how many mah?

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#45 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 9:37:32 AM(UTC)
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Amnon, by Grameen website your device should give 25 hours on a pair of batteries. I wonder how he's pulling for you in a week.
The lithium batteries may contain (mAh) double standard batteries?

ETREX20-compass based on the movement of Greece. Just as soon as you begin to go a certain direction the device can calculate the North according to the different locations while walking (a few meters walk). I mean, once there is movement and you turn your device on the spot, won't get encryption.

Instruments with inner compass when you rotate your device instead of rotating it too ה"מפה".

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#46 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 10:58:47 AM(UTC)
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Regular batteries working time was 3 days but at least lithium 6 days.
Of course not work continuously 24 hours but days of about 8 hours and then turning the navigation device (short breaks I don't turn it).
I mean, in terms of working time, regular batteries it was 24 hours and that's more than double lithium! At least 48 consecutive hours.
And more important weight advantage! 8 AA batteries to carry for a 10-day trip isn't negligible. Lithium and weighing only need 4. In short – a different world.
About the "freezing" of the device while standing in place for this I wrote extensively in the past. It is the biggest drawback of the device. Must go in order to get Greece.
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#47 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 11:22:58 AM(UTC)
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Gotta go for as Greece, but not for the location, right?
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#48 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 12:11:16 PM(UTC)
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True, the position can be stationary.
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#49 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 4:26:13 PM(UTC)
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Also I highly recommend lithium batteries that Amnon mentioned. Not only do they have a lot more, they are also much easier than regular batteries. I wrote about it in my blog post. You can get the batteries in Israel (not a duty).

In connection with garmin etrex 30-another צ'קמוק that connects to wifi, true tilapia? I really don't גאדג'טיסט (don't have smartphones, for instance), so I'm not going for GPS-heavy sea. But in case of poor visibility and snow. And witnesses may have been going on Garmin etrex 9.
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#50 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 4:50:59 PM(UTC)
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Can have. Not checked and it's not significant for me.
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#51 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 7:42:48 PM(UTC)
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Amnon gave life time of batteries are shamcepn/altimter/barometer out?

Does anyone have an opinion about the practical usability of the compass/altimter/barometer?
And did you watch (CASIO proterk) can fill those functions like GPS or GPS aabnia into useful?

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#52 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 10:52:34 PM(UTC)
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I have a watch that has spoiled the altimter sonto (based barometer). Travel without GPS.

It's convenient when you have a paper map, and when I know I'm on the path, then I can place myself just high enough along the path.

But it doesn't help in that, of course, and doesn't help if you don't know where the trail or for. ..

In short, it's ה"נחמד to know level for me, but I wouldn't rely on it in harsh conditions or survival needs.

However, in my experience (with specific sonto, not know how others) it's very accurate.

If you calibrate the altimeter (eg in the cabin or in domes are known) you can get a precision of 10-20 m.

So if you already have a clock like this, not sure you have GPS too be spoiled '.

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#53 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 11:22:06 PM(UTC)
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Ditto, I trust the SUUNTO CORE or AMBIT in reading Petitions regarding altitude and air pressure.
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#54 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:37:42 AM(UTC)
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Some people asked me how Forum can navigate with Holux M-241.
For example printed map of Karmiel today at work (image from Google Earth with a height/width [CTRL + L]):

I went now and turned on the device. I got to see:

N32° 54 ' 17.68 "

E35° 17 ' 13.92 "

Someone find me on the map?

So, it's not a topographic map, but there is no problem to add Lat/Long chain on each map. It doesn't take more time preparing food for the trip.

IMHO

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#55 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:36:12 AM(UTC)
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Afix the schedule I'm talking about refers to a situation where all functions work.
BTW, I don't think you can even turn off the functions of a compass and barometer.
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#56 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:35:51 AM(UTC)
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The truth-with 25 hours of work as the manufacturer specifies no real benefit against serious Smartphone with a battery (such as the lg g3 with 3000mah, not to mention the 5000mah THL). Especially in light of the fact that there are today in quality outdoor umbrellas make further comparison.

But ... Amnon data up here (over 50 hours straight with a pair of batteries) are undoubtedly the tiebreaker.

Raanan-talked about of the compass etrex20. Is it true about thirty?

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#57 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:47:51 PM(UTC)
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I don't know the specific devices. I rely on the data provided by the manufacturer of information had a number + navigation I've seen (mostly running timers).

30 should be a component of a true compass, i.e. when instead and your device should also map to get around.
20 the device relies on Greece, according to a satellite location in order to evaluate where you are going. In this case you must keep the traffic to the appropriate.

About smartphones-as of today don't know who give 25 machine hours screen works not to mention extra GPS to power consumption. Beyond that we work with mobile raises fear of damage to the device due to a fall, the device etc., which neutralizes your can help. As far as I'm concerned, case left and outgoing cellular exceptions.

In my opinion, everyone should adapt its working method.
I, for example, a route planner, building it by implementing such software or otherwise and passes. Although I receive I map view get the vector followed I should follow. This method is suitable for you if you want to deviate from the course, then I just pull away.
Travelling people Allah Allah, lift up your AV. surface without rigid program, we should build on a device like the ETREX30.

Setting it needs the name of the game.
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#58 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:56:49 PM(UTC)
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Does anyone have experience with the "end" of models garmin GPSMAP 64. I just upgraded due to enhanced antenna doesn't justify the extra cost and weight. What do you say?

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#59 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:30:26 AM(UTC)
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Refresh, I agree about the definition. Not always have a map drawn in during the day and therefore serious battery + outdoor unlocked can respond not bad.

About the internal compass I report other tilapia Am I missing something?

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#60 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:48:01 AM(UTC)
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Https://buy.garmin.com/e...og/product/compareResult = compareProduct 87774 ...-ep compareProduct = & compareProduct = & 87768 87771

The Chief link to the Grameen website broadband comparison.
You can see that only to ETREX30 has a compass. Therefore, the other two rely on GPS signals to encrypt your map, which requires transaction.
There are other differences between the devices, but are not related to the compass.
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